Rioter

This thread is in protest to Rioter's recent banning. While I am aware of the reason why and some of what happen behind scenes, I think banning a member (who has been a member since 2001) that was contributed quite a lot to this site for something that is a very small thing in my opinion.


Not to downplay any dis-respect at MsM that rioter might have said but still, he was a valuable member.


For those in doubt.....

Case Study


Try looking through those and see what you find. While being an ass he has also helped out many, many, many people here on AO as well as in IRC. There are several other Seniors and Addicts on here that have contributed nothing to this forum inluding myself. While I think some punishment should be addressed to him I don't belive that banning his account perm was a good solution. With so many trolls and skiddies on here lately and very few of the Seniors still currently posting I would think that we should allow an active and helpful member back.

I am double posting this in both GCC and Addicts. Please only reply to GCC one. I am doing this to make sure all can see this thread.

Please give your opinion on this.


hjack

Your case study link is missing....

Yeah and i wonder why your posting this for? Because you and Ri0tEr are buddy's, so you think it's unfair your Buddy got banned..
Face it, he broke the rules he got banned..

there's my 2 cents, if you don't like it then go ahead and neg me.

front2back:.

If i remember right and I read right then .:front2back:. your were banned once as well?

If you wanna start going by the rules then you shoudln't be here anymore as well.


New account and good behavior or not.


As for Rioter being friends, yes we talk on AO and he has helped me with several probs, anyone from UnE and the NewEraIrc network can tell you I have called him an ass and several other names many of an time and have made it clear that I though he was a dick. I also made it clear I was happy when he was orginally banned on IRC.


After thinking and watching people become addicts with 225 of their 250 post required being in the non-sensical thread and watching contributing members be banned I got kind of pissed.

hjack

If Ri0tEr wants to come back, I don't think anyone is going to stop him. He just needs to create a new account and play within the AUP (like we all have to) ;).

Cheers:

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Yeah and i wonder why your posting this for? Because you and Ri0tEr are buddy's, so you think it's unfair your Buddy got banned..

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Of course it's that way, i talk to Raion, hjack, Spyder32, and other member via AIM and they know the real story behind my banning, and of course they would like to see my old account back, but wait :) Wasn't Rioter banned again for madjag account, how do we know he'll be good if they give him Rioter back ?

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If i remember right and I read right then .:front2back:. your were banned once as well?

If you wanna start going by the rules then you shoudln't be here anymore as well.

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**** i know i was banned before.. And that was my old account (creative_32X_mx). And since i've been in this account i've obeyed the rules, so if you got a problem with me and my opinion, like a said neg me..

<hjack> rioter
<hjack> u were madjag?
<rioter> no?
<rioter> ive only ever had one account
<rioter> and when i lost it, i never signed up with a new one



I belive that account was Jaguar291's?

Might I be wrong?

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New account and good behavior or not.

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Fine if you think i shouldn't be here no more then fine, i'll leave..

Besides, truth is we're NOT lacking contributing members. I keep hearing people complain about how few truly knowledgable, contributing members we have, but I just don't see it. Case in point, everyone who's posted here from hjack down has proven to be very contributing. Jarrod, Tiger, Nihil, Horse, Spyd, etc., are all very sharp folks, so I don't see how we have a shortage. As one of the not-so-knowledgable members, I've benefited greatly from this. I think it's the overabundance of idiot members that's making it appear as if we have fewer actual contributing members.

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Fine if you think i shouldn't be here no more then fine, i'll leave..

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One member tells you to leave and you leave, be a man dude;)

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I belive that account was Jaguar291's?

Might I be wrong?

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maybe i was wrong ! :)

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Fine if you think i shouldn't be here no more then fine, i'll leave..

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I could care less if you are here or not. Outside the NST I never see your post anyways so you don't bother me :)

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I could care less if you are here or not. Outside the NST I never see your post anyways so you don't bother me

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Maybe you should get your eyes checked then.

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And you have.......

1014 post so that makes


916 post somewhere else.


And there is already 4 post today by you in the current NST page..........


hmmm................


hjack

Here's a hint check Operating System forum, that should tell you were the other post's have gone ;)

And yet you say that you don't

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I could care less if you are here or not.

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So why are you trying so hard to make me look bad.. What you want me to be banned..
Well i'm sure if that's how everyone feels then either the Admin's or Mod's can ban me, or maybe you can gather all your friends in your AP alliance to neg me till i'm banned, either way i doubt i'm gonna get banned any time soon :flip:

never say never .... Btw I believe rioter should be able to come back too ...

So YOUR accusing me of being in a AP alliance Mr Creative 32 mx?

Who also was involved (PROVEN) in the NFG alliance?


I have been here almost 2 years, I have 5 green dots, and just now reached addicts.


Yuo have been here 5 months, have over 1000 post, and several more green dots than what I have?

You are a pissant.

How many of your post have been in NST? Give me a rough estimate? Now how about your OS forum? Well?

Your a troll. STFU, sell your computer, and start a ****ing hobby like walking in traffic.

hjack

I think that rioter should be able to come back, but under a different name.

If he doesn't want a different name... he doesn't have to come back.

The mods/admins already said they are NOT going to be giving back banned accounts.

Why should they make an exception for rioter?

If they make an exception for rioter, they have to make one for everyone else.

hjack...relax bro...do you know why he was banned? Just because he helped out many, doesn't mean he can be an ass and get away with it. He was asked to change his avatar, and he change it to another even more profane one....its really not that hard to understand why he was banned.

Peace.


Edit, Yeah I was banned once too. I was banned for being the biggest ******* to a newbie. My name was 1cehawk. I was banned the first day I joined...you know, i really liked that freegin name...u think I should have it back? NO i dont think so. Besides, Rioter is allowed to come back...he just chose not to so stop barking.




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Does that make me a more acceptable senior member? I've read front2backs's posts....and i've found many of them productive on which I've learned something. You can say that I'm a troll too because I get into heated arguments/debates on cosmos about politics....but life in the computer world is MUCH MUCH MUCH wider than just your lil security threads. Besides...who died and left u in charge of judging any member by where they've posted? At least be fair and include everyone who posts plenty of GCC(Nemory :D no offense bro)

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phishphreek80

I asked myself why we should allow his old account to be allowed back and not allow the others to be and the reason I say we should is because it was over an avatar. All the others (sorry MemorY but yours come to mind first) such as MemorY were over a little more serious matters. He/She (HA) actually set out it seems to be banned.


While I acknowledge the rioter probably did not handle the matter in the most respectful way, maybe he was having a bad day?


I was not aware of intmon saying any such thing phishphreek80.


hjack

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I was not aware of intmon saying any such thing phishphreek80.

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Actually, it was intmon who decided this after the NFG issue (it was around that time).

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we should is because it was over an avatar

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NO we shouldn't....it wasn't just about the avatar.......it was about being disrespectful, and not dissobeying the rules after he was asked "nicely I suppose" to change his avatar. He decided to be a dick and put another one which was even worse than the first one...hence he got banned.


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I dont think you're in a position to talk.

I have about 50% of my posts in security discussions.

You have about 17% of your posts in security discussions.

And front2back has about 10% of his posts in security discussions.

So feel leet cuz u have more security posts than him? Remember, I beat both of u though :D

Hmmm...

All things considered I think we should re-enstate NFG ;)

Seriously though:

Should we be banning for an avatar. Custom avatars are a privellidge simply withdraw the privelidge?

However I found s significant number of Rioters posts offensive in their own right and by responding badly to a polite request I feel that he was given every chance.

Steve

If a rule is changed for one person then everyone expects the same thing. Changing rules can ruin a perfectly good system.

Rioter is allowed to come back whenever he wants, just like other banned members were/are.
His old account won't be reinstated, though.
We didn't ban Rioter, we banned the Rioter-account... and that's the end of it. Reinstating that account would indicate that one can get away with literally everything on AntiOnline.

I'm pretty sure that if you'd ask him, he'll agree that he deserved to be banned (might have to push him a little, but he'll agree :D).