aim direct connect and fileshare dont work with router

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July 12th, 2004, 11:56 PM
Phonedog911

aim direct connect and fileshare dont work with router

right now im using trillian and i am unable to share files or directly connect to other ppl. i've tried forwarding port 5190, 4117, 4900 and various other ports that i've read were associated with aim and trillian file sharing on google, to my internal ip, but i still cant do it. i have a friend who is also using a router and he can direct connect and file share with other people without forwarding any ports. can anybody tell me how to setup trillian and my router so that i can fileshare and stuff?
July 13th, 2004, 01:37 AM
DeadAddict

Are you using a firewall even though you are behind the router? if so that is most likely the reason why the file transfers are not going through.
July 13th, 2004, 02:12 AM
Spyder32

I woulda suggested that as well, however I have another one. Is the person you are trying to direct connect with have a firewall? That could be it as well.
July 13th, 2004, 03:05 AM
Phonedog911

i do have a software firewall running, ill disable it and try again
July 13th, 2004, 03:18 AM
DeadAddict

Ok let us know if it works or not.
July 13th, 2004, 03:18 AM
Phonedog911

i downloaded the original aim client and everything works fine with port 5190 forwarded to my comp. dunno why it wont work with trillian... probably its a different port, but im having a hard time finding out which ports.
July 13th, 2004, 03:22 AM
jinxy

Have you set up port forwarding correctly at your router?

Mine for instance requires two inputes to it's set up.
1/ Create custom service.
2/Create firewall Rule.

And make sure it forwards to the correct lan ip addy. this can change if your router is acting as a Dhcp server.

Edit
Default port for Trillian 1863
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July 13th, 2004, 05:32 AM
deftones12

AIM has been doin major upgrades lately i think, i have an older client i keep using cuz of loggin capabilities and some winamp features i can have, and ever since they've came out with they're latest client i always get a popup sayin i wont be able to connect soon unless i update, which ive been fine connecting for like the last month. i havent been able to connect wtih hardly anyone at all though to send pictures or files, so im guessin that could be a reason. i think they're tryin to get everyone using the latest version. i think maybe the latest version out and any other version cant connect to each other.
July 13th, 2004, 07:10 AM
xierox

Re: aim direct connect and fileshare dont work with router

Quote:

Originally posted here by Phonedog911
right now im using trillian and i am unable to share files or directly connect to other ppl.

To the best of my knowledge this is just caused by Trillian. Even when I was running Trillian with no firewall I had the file share be extremely finicky. It rarely worked. I hardly use it anyways, so when I do I just jump on AIM. Just my $.02.

Regards,
James
July 13th, 2004, 07:55 AM
Spyder32

A little advice: Trillian = The Window's of Instant Message Application's. It is usually filled with bug's and whatnot which is the cause of constant update's and patches, etc. Point I'm trying to make is that it's safer and smarter to just have AIM or MSN or whichever you choose (or as many as you want). Trillian may seem like the more efficient way to go about it, but the long-term risk's and hassles/problem's with it aren't worth it. Just my two for a dollar. :D
July 13th, 2004, 08:08 AM
xierox

Quote:

Originally posted here by Spyder32
A little advice: Trillian = The Window's of Instant Message Application's. It is usually filled with bug's and whatnot which is the cause of constant update's and patches, etc. Point I'm trying to make is that it's safer and smarter to just have AIM or MSN or whichever you choose (or as many as you want). Trillian may seem like the more efficient way to go about it, but the long-term risk's and hassles/problem's with it aren't worth it. Just my two for a dollar. :D

While your point is true, Trillian has its bugs (but few), I still disagree. Trillian has several features I now find absolutely necessary to IMing that neither AIM nor MSN has. For the average home user, however, I can see where you're coming from. They just want something simple that works all the time and no hastle, but for more advanced user may they find them lacking.

Regards,
Xierox
July 13th, 2004, 08:24 AM
Spyder32

Uhh kindly alert me of these "advanced feature's" that Trillian has for the "advanced user". Sure, I love looking for update's/patches and making sure everything is secure on my computer for every bit of software.. except IM application's? I mean come on, it's an IM application. Big whoop for features.
July 13th, 2004, 08:48 AM
Darksnake

There is a alternative to trillian.... gaim. I have found that older versions of aim cannot direct connect with newer versions. Make sure that you have the latest version of trillian. You may just end up having to find another client.
July 13th, 2004, 08:53 AM
Spyder32

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gaim

Oddly sound's familiar too. Then again, my *nix box's AIM client is called nAIM so dunno. Darksnake, what kind of features does gaim have and where can I find information on it?
July 14th, 2004, 02:23 AM
Phonedog911

i forwarded port 1863 and it still doesnt work. maybe ill try updating trillian(i havent in a while) or look into gaim. i really dont like seeing that aol logo or those stupid adverts they put everwhere... and trillian had that cool skin thing with the transparency.
July 14th, 2004, 02:25 AM
Spyder32

There are many AIM client's that have window transparency and eliminate those AOL ad's (all the ad's actually). Look into DeadAIM, AIM+, and middle_man. The first two are available on downloads.com so you should definitely check them out. They have some neat features for AIM.
July 14th, 2004, 02:31 AM
xierox

Quote:

Originally posted here by Spyder32
Uhh kindly alert me of these "advanced feature's" that Trillian has for the "advanced user". Sure, I love looking for update's/patches and making sure everything is secure on my computer for every bit of software.. except IM application's? I mean come on, it's an IM application. Big whoop for features.

Perhaps you misunderstood my meaning of advanced. I meant more than just a newbie. I was not attempting to make myself look better than anyone else. If it appeared that way, please forgive me. Some of the features I find useful is the ability to create custom alerts when a certain contact signs online. You can have it play sounds or popup windows or both. Also, I much prefer Trillian's conversation logging over MSNs. It is a simple text file and I don't believe that AIM has a chat log at this point in time and I prefer my conversations to be logged. Perhaps they are not as big as I think they are, but they make my IMing experience much nicer. Alerts save me much hastle when I'm gaming. I no longer have to minimize in middle of the game to see if I want to chat with the person who signed on or not. (This is a very bad thing to do in the middle of Halo. :D )

/edit - Another one. With Trillian I can simply press Ctrl+Shift+A and it will show/hide the chat window depending upon whether or not it is shown or hidden at the moment. I was always checking who was online (I'm paranoid, ok?) and now I can check AIM and MSN in fraction of the time it used to take me.
July 14th, 2004, 02:32 AM
DeadAddict

Spyder this site will tell you everything you want to know about Gaim
http://gaim.sourceforge.net/downloads.php
July 14th, 2004, 02:33 AM
Spyder32

Quote:

If it appeared that way, please forgive me.

It didn't appear that way :D Oh, and so ya know AIM has both of those feature's you mentioned :)

EDIT: Thanks DeadAddict for the link.
July 14th, 2004, 02:35 AM
xierox

Quote:

Originally posted here by Spyder32
It didn't appear that way :D Oh, and so ya know AIM has both of those feature's you mentioned :)

EDIT: Thanks DeadAddict for the link.

Ok, thank you. AIM may have them, but MSN doesn't have the Alerts that I was talking about, AFAIK. I mean, there are things about Trillian that I find annoying and all, but overall, it fits me better. Personal opinion.

Regards,
Xierox
July 14th, 2004, 02:52 AM
moxnix

I have a question. Why would you want any kind of IM on when you are gaming?

I mean, is a contact coming on line more important than the game you are playing. If so, then why are you even playing the game.

I'm sorry but I am afraid I don't understand this at all. I am not flaming you about it, or cutting you down in any way. I just don't understand.

If I am waiting for someone to come online, I don't get into anything that might be hard to drop or leave in the middle of. And if you are playing in a multimember game, the other players would be depending on you....wouldn't they?
July 14th, 2004, 02:56 AM
Spyder32

Quote:

I have a question. Why would you want any kind of IM on when you are gaming?

I was pondering this one as well. When I go play StarCraft, I always put up my away message on AIM because if someone tries to IM me when I'm playing, I don't wish to be disturbed nor do I want them bringing the SC window down. So I put my away on until I'm done. If you want to be alerted if someone is on, then wait to play the game.
July 14th, 2004, 03:55 AM
xierox

Quote:

Originally posted here by moxnix
I have a question. Why would you want any kind of IM on when you are gaming?

I mean, is a contact coming on line more important than the game you are playing. If so, then why are you even playing the game.

I'm sorry but I am afraid I don't understand this at all. I am not flaming you about it, or cutting you down in any way. I just don't understand.

If I am waiting for someone to come online, I don't get into anything that might be hard to drop or leave in the middle of. And if you are playing in a multimember game, the other players would be depending on you....wouldn't they?

I'm playing the game to kill time until a contact I feel like IMing comes online. On MSN I'm set to appear offline until this time. The reason why I do this? There are only a select few people I would rather talk with than game (only when I'm in a gaming mood), until the time when one of them appears I'm generally shown as Away on AIM and offline on MSN. There are only one or two contacts that meet this criteria so it's not like I'm gaming for for two minutes and then quitting. I may go several hours before they sign on. It is more conveinient to just know when they sign on (I have it set to play a unique sound) than to minimize the game everyt time I hear the contact signing on sound. Hope this helps

Regards,
Xierox