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Ok, at my friends house someone (who doesn't have permission to) has put listining devices around the property. We need some way to take them out.... Preferable a tone I could record that would fry the mic.... We dont know where they are placed but this is a MAJOR invasion of privacy... Please help!
P.S. I am new here so I am sorry but I didn't know what forum to put this in.
http://www.wasc.noaa.gov/wrso/security_guide/detect.htm
I don't know how you'd expect to emit a tone and think it'd fry the mic.
Microphones are made for recoring or transfering sound... and if it hears a tone, its just going to pass that tone along.
AFAIK: You can't fry a mic by emitting a tone...
But I have no real experience with it. Its just common sense?
Ahh, see we would call the cops but the owner of the property is in the hospital and cannot do anything as she is not in a capable state of talking to the police.
Well someone who is acting on her behalf? If she is not capable of such decisions... there must be someone who is. Someone else who lives at the residence? Attorney? Etc. Who is taking care of her hospital bills and decisions?
well a shot from an ElectroMagnetic Pulse Cannon would fry the frying...but unlikely you can get your hands on one :p. How do you know of these devices? Maybe they're the alarm system and you're trying to break in without the darn thing going off? Just a thought.
Call the police and explain to them the situation. It makes little sense....the owner of the house is in the hospital, but yet you have found these devices and want to turn them off? What are you doing in that house while the owner is in the hospital anyways?
Or the second scenario is: You're involved in some illegal ****, and the FBI is after you, they're spying on you and you noticed that. Unfortunately you cannot change your hideout...so you need to get rid of these devices.
Can you please provide us with some more information? Use your imagination...you seem pretty creative.
That is the biggest load of grade A+ Crap i've seen in a while...What is a 16 year old doing around the lady's house?Quote:
Ahh, see we would call the cops but the owner of the property is in the hospital and cannot do anything as she is not in a capable state of talking to the police.
KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid
Just don't talk about anything you wouldn't want any one else to hear while you are in range of any listening devices.....Simple.
Your 'story' doesn't hold water, by the way.So how do you even know they are there?Quote:
We dont know where they are placed
There are several different way to detect the presents of various bugs and devices for recording sound and such. They do require a bit of money or technical expertise to buy or build. The devices themselves are not very cheap, and wouldn't be used willynilly.
So if I were you, I would be worrying more about how to hire an attorny to represent you, than trying to find some way of detecting or defeating such devices. Whom ever place them, if they do even exist, is probably a governmental agency building a case against you.
If your concerned with someone going though all the trouble to wire tap a property for conversations you may also want to check out these links.
http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/tempest.html
http://www.robertgraham.com/pubs/carnivore-faq.html
permission from whom? Do you mean the land owner? Are you including the Courts?Quote:
someone (who doesn't have permission to)
And who is "someone"???? Is it a neighbor, relative, friend, co-worker, Fed ( or other law enforcement agency) ?
exactly what is meant here?Quote:
around the property
In what country are you is the property located? ( could make a big difference as far as the law goes )
How big is the property?
Are you talking inside or outside of the house? The law in the US refers to "curtilidge" of the actual residence with reference to what should be considered to requiring a warrant, and what YOU expose to the public. Where exactly are these "listening devices" ?
How do you know they are there?
How do you know they are using a mic ?Quote:
Preferable a tone I could record that would fry the mic
Additional questions:
What leaves you to believe it was done?
Why would they do it?
Who would profit?
Maybe, maybe not. In your posts you did not answer the questions above so no one really knows.Quote:
but this is a MAJOR invasion of privacy
How does this relate in any way to computers and this site?Quote:
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For all those "politically correct" members, yes, I negged this post!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'll try, but you may not like it, and it may not give you the answer you want. The discussion does not belong here ( but nice link phishphreek80 for the novice paranoid )Quote:
Please help!
But bare in mind I am drunk and may not cover everything.
If I remember correctly "Harmonics" would be the key here, but you would have to know exactly what tone to use : that would depend on what brand, what model, etc. of the mic that was used, if a mic was used at all ( not exactly, but rather how it was wound and what components were used, but the idea is still the same ). How do you know a mic was used? Could it have been a laser? And are you talking wired or wireless? Again, who do you think is doing this? The Feds here would use high frequency, other law enforcement and private might use lower frequency, cheaper pieces, or even wired. Some might be taken out by simply stepping on them, others with "white" noise, others with merely closing the drapes.
If they're mine, good luck!
:confused:
( just something to keep you guessing ) ;)
if there wireless devices the way to detect them is put on some background music, like a cd incase there VOX (voice activated) so that there transmitting, the take a normal radio and move it across the wall moving the tuner and if you hit a point where the radio does the echoy thing like you here on the radio when they ring up and someone has there radio on in the background then youve found it.
its unlikely that its a professional job, so the device is more than likely to be a crude larger than specialist device, so just check the obvious (behind picture frames, under tables, under chairs, power sockets, light switchs) it might be a professional job and the method ive told is for finding crude devices, if its from some 3 figure organisation then its likely that this method wont work as they frequency hop.
the fact of the matter is that it could be a trojan horse, a gift that someones given that has the device in.
ive just wrote all this stuff but how do you actually no that you are bugged!
as for ur method of a tone, this is unliekly to work as microphones have a frequency response that is similar to what frequency are voice is at, so it wont pick up a sound that u cant hear...its not gonna destory the mic ive it would either drive it into saturation or be outside the frequency response.
you can jam the transmitters by building a jammer, but i cant be arsed going into the technical complexxitys of that as you dont no allot about the said device, and how you even no its there is a mystery to me....
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ohh yea i dont like this post much, but i believe you can by a bug scanner in rat shack now adays, ive seen them sold in quite a few gadget catalogues before.
i2c
A bit self centered to think you are worth spying on, eh?
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Let's admit it. This is a site about computers but also a very technology oriented community. I don't see why it would be a problem to ask about anything, including cell phones (we do have those quite a bit, don't we).Quote:
How does this relate in any way to computers and this site?
I have no need to respond to the parent poster, because he has already been answered. I am happy to at least see people helping and giving mature advice rather than telling him to "STFU !!!!!1111five", and thus being left behind and possible slammed in jail in the future.
The more we help out people who ask even the oddest questions, the more of a chance we have to correct an idea or attitude before it does them harm.
Computer security is more than just securing the computer system. If you only look at that single factor, then you still leave yourself open. In any environment -- and specifically a business one -- secure computers do not mean that the "system" is secure. You have to consider other items outside the realm of 1s and 0s. Security of the room itself. Ethics of the employees. Ethics of the company.Quote:
How does this relate in any way to computers and this site?
If I look at this, I would wonder the risk to a company of not paying attention to things like listening devices, which might give away information like proprietary conversations and the like. A security admins job isn't limited to computers. It's limited by his/her imagination of what the "enemy" can do.
Here you don't even have to leave your home. If someone did have papers to bug your house they can put more in later. And I think it'll be fun for the neighbors to watch a crackhead running around his house with a bug detector.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/5a42/
muert0, cool link
They also have the audio jammer
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/677a/
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See my friend lives in this house, and I usully stay here, His great grandma owns the house, and she is in critacal condition right now. Oh and we dont KNOW he has the mics on the property but he says he does... we want to find/diable them. And the cops A. Wouldnt belive me B. They wouldn't give a ****. Do you think the cops would actully come look for small listening devices?
There, I was trying not to get to into my friends life but ok... Now do ya'll care to help? lol
I dont see how I could use this in a bad way.... and I can't think of alarm systems that use mics.... but ya.... so anyways ya, I want to disable those mics.... or at least find them.... PLEASE HELP!!
lol this gets better and better...who's "he"? Man i'm tired of this ****...dude go troll somewhere else, we already have quad and thespecialist.
Ok not gonna neg the posting cause that was the point. To disable remote mics is easy we learned it in Nam back in the 60's was an old fart in the unit from WWII. Anway you wrap your head in Aluminum Foil you have to pay attention to your neck area because that is where your vocal cords are this area required seven layers. Then you have to find a large Tin funnel this can only work with Tin. Remove the small part that fits into something like a jug or bottle and make sure the smallest part of the cone fits over your lips. With this in place take the cone of the funnel and wrap it in brass wire mesh and secure the loose ends with some sort of tape but even back then we had duct tape. Your set now you can talk all ya want and no mic will pick you up. A really low tech way though would be a paper and well charcole (cold from the fire last night) on paper. :)
And the dude that put them lives here too, but he is just a.... ummm I guess you could say... feeloader... lol.... Oh and why are ya'll assigning negitive points to this? HOW CAN I USE THIS IN A BAD WAY? I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW TO STOP A LISTENING DEVICE (oh and the feds and cops would moniter my online use too if it was them so they would see this if they where the ones putting the devices, DUH!) (although I could use ways to prevent them from seeing where I go, but oh well lol)
Ok, Man I see most of you arnt gonna help me, thanks anyway, and thank you very much to the ones who did, I guess people just think Im some little kid sitting behind a computer, (well I am only 17) But yea, I don't see why most of you dont want to help, much less why you have reson not to, but ok, It doesnt matter, the owner is dieing and we have to leave anyway (the house is being sold) (a little too much info but oh well I dont care)
But the man who did this is an old paranoid guy who no one belives, he says we smoke pot and all this crap and wants to catch us REALLY REALLY bad.... (im guessing) and maybe he didn't have these up at all, he just said he did. But I don't see why most of you wouldn't help
Oh In fact dont bother anwsering the qustion as we have to leave anyways, but I want someone to please tell me why most people where giveing me negitive points and stuff.... I dont understand it.
Oh and I am acctully not a little poser guy.... I was also known as mercenarysniper, or nailogamer, or nailounderground.... You may have heard of me.... Im a hacker.... (not a cracker) But yea, oh well...
I gave you greenies because I felt you weren't doing anything nearly as bad as most newcomers to this site.
But most would think that this thread is just kinda.... out there?
See attatched....
And yes, photoshop is back.
edit: fast orange? your name backwards is fast orange??? weeheeheeeird
Ok, I see I may be kicked off this site soon, for this post... well I just want to put this in case I am banned....
I am being kicked off for asking how to find/destroy listing devices.
That is my last statement, not just think about that... Man, with all the script kiddies and posers asking how to hack hotmail and stupid illigal crap I ask a qustion that (as far as I can see) cannot be used illigaly.... But oh well, if you all want to ban me for this offence then I guess its how things go eh?
"Yes I am a criminal.... my crime is that of curiosity" - +++mentor+++
Oh and yes I am FAST ORANGE!!!! UBER HACKER!!!!!! lol not really But yea I usully write tuts under fast orange so thats me! lol (and I got that from a cleaner lol)