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hello,
Pls is there a way of overiding network administrators setting from a client system in a network.
The new guy just promoted to administrator level at work is making life unbearable for us all, he is restricting access to everything yo ucan think about even the printers are restricted, making it time consuming when we should all be at the go.
Any help will be highly apprecaited.
you are asking for trouble with that one....
You should point this out to him, and if he continues to be troublesome, arrange a meeting with his manager to try to work out how support can work with the users.
Ultimately, network support / sysadmin is a cost centre on a company and should be answerable to the users - they are there to try and make your life easier not more difficult.
Slarty
how do you mean, will it cause a network fault? if it will then i think we just have to vote himm off, rather than i cause trouble for the firm.
hope you enlighten me more
I am a Network Administrator and I know I do not stand alone when I say that with this post you are going to be asking for trouble. So please do not ask how to hack or how to break into your network or go again you Network Admin.
**cursor moving to assign negs**ah hell I don't care...I will let you slide on this one!
- MilitantEidolon
He may be trying to counter act some serious issue in security, or an *******. Talk with him, then "vote" him out if necessary. Assuming he is not blocking things like bad internet sites, kazzaa etc, and not core business systems. :)
it is not trouble in that sense, but it is trouble in the sense that it is most likely against company policy. you should talk to him about how difficult he is making even the simplest tasks... furthermore, you should look at yourself to see if what he is doing is secure, and you have been living in an insecure computing environment
o yeah.... is there a way to override a network admin -- only on your local machine/other machines you know the admin password on (i figure you won't be able to do much with this info tho since it seems that you logon to a domain, and are at max a power user)
he knows but he believes there is no one better than him, so all have to come to him when the need be, imagine you trying to download and you can't save on your harddisk for later recovery without calling him, or your wanting to run a program , and you see a link that says vb... has been disabled, contact your network administrator, or the most annoying, if msn messenger is not on your system b4 he became heafd, then there is notin you can do, as te download won't reach completion but stops at 99% and says you do not have the permision to download this file, contact network administrator to complet this.
then this is definately a situation to take to the management of the company, anything else could get you fired
Assuming this guy is not a troll:
If you cannot do your job due to some security restrictions then first talk with the admin and then if problems are not resolved talk to management. Chances are that if you cannot do you job then someone else is having problems as well. If enough people cannot do their job, then the company is wasting their money having you sit around. Talk with or email the admin. He/she is probably trying to secure a previously unsecure network so that he does not get fired if something happens.
Edit: The only reason I could see printers being restricted is if their is abuse. (Those would not happen to be color printers?) We had to restrict use of our color printers after a certain employee was printing a lot of nude photos late at night.
Haha! Thats pretty funny...Quote:
Originally posted here by slarty
Ultimately, network support / sysadmin is a cost centre on a company and should be answerable to the users - they are there to try and make your life easier not more difficult.
Slarty
I have a new guy who thinks that we should do whatever he wants.
Like... disable the long distance codes on the phone because he doesn't want to dial an extra 4 digits... It supposedly "wastes his time" and I should disable it for him.
NOPE!
Like... get him the software that he wants and make everyone else switch to something he knows... just because he doesn't like the way it looks.
NOPE!
When the phone rings, he shouldn't have to ask the person for information... it should automatically bring up all the customer info... because him asking for info from a customer is wasting his time...
NOPE!
The list goes on and on...
We (the network nazis) are here to "Protect"... NOT serve. ;)
Lol, but still the IS or IT is a huge cost center that generates NO revenue, only sucks it all up. :)
ummmm only yesterday i repaired some work which had been done incorrectly by the site team leaders which made the company in the region of £23394.50Quote:
Lol, but still the IS or IT is a huge cost center that generates NO revenue, only sucks it all up
without me being there they wouldn't have even realised they had lost that revenue until they went to do the invoice at the end of the month by which time the amount of records which would ahve ben lost and unrecoverable would prolly be in the realms of 80%
so yeah ok we may not directly produce revenue for the company but we're def handy to have around ;)
v_Ln
If what your trying do access on the network is legit then go over the admins head. While network admins do hold a great amount of power, usually it's not the type that allows them decide if someone can use a printer if its actually part of their job to do so. The network admins job should not interfere with employee productivity unless there is some other reason, probly security related, as in someone broke something badly and lost the rights.
I would suggest not trying to undermine the admin, but to go around them.
Sounds like the guy that got promoted got there because of who he knew (or blew, hehe) and not necessarily because of his ability to be a good network admin.
Being a unix/network admin for the past 9 years, I know what it's like to support any number of customers, whether it's sales (the worst, IMHO), financial (they want their data!), programmers (HAHAHAHA), and the like. Sure, we, in the IT field, are an expense entirely to the company but that's only because of the way things are structured now. The bean counters find it ok to pay a top sales rep six figures, give him/her a fully-loaded office with windows and a secretary, and all sorts of other fringe benefits, but I'm a cost to the company when I want the company to pay for a better server because the one I use now to run 8 different web applications hand-programmed by me using free software (apache, php, postgresql) saving the company thousands is a cost? **** THAT! Let that server die just once, and because I don't have the privilege of a used 4mm DAT drive for backup, let it crash!
On the subject of, contact upper management, preferably his manager with his tactics. He sounds like the zealous "I just got power and can do all! AHAHAHAHAHA" and needs to be smacked down.
There's egos at work here. And empire building.
(Guesswork)
HE (admin) has been promoted to this position, over retriever, and, methinks that there is/was some bad blood between him and others in the company.
You need to tread carefully, or YOU will be leaving.
See your/his line manager, get around a table and talk this out, if they do nothing to stop the new way; then your only option is to walk away............
Well......
Rule#1...............................The Administrator is always right
Rule#2...............................If you do not understand, please refer back to rule #1
:D
OK, now the serious stuff..........................if this person's activities prevent you doing your work.....please report it to your line manager.
If I were your line manager I would ask two questions:
1. Is there a wannabe fuhrer in IT
2. Are my staff takling the p1$$
Dismissals would depend upon the findings of the court martial
:D
rule 1 the admin is always right?
rule 2 refer rule one?
rule 3 if it breaks fire the admin because he refuses to listen? :D
Mabey just bring the problems that have been caused by the changes to the attention to the appropriate parties would help. Sometimes it takes time for things for things to get running smoothly with a change of administrators.
Hi Spamdies, and have a good week-end (that is a direct order) :D
What I was saying is that either the Admin is OK or he/she is not...........My rules are based
on the availability/service contract.................so you have to give admins a break?
I assume that all Admins are OK up until the Christmas party.............then I cannot sit on two seats at the same time?
Anyways.............I am a very lucky person in that I can hunt with the hounds and run with the fox at the same time :)
And I have the physical keys and codes, and my access card backs that up..........but only if, and I do mean ONLY if, I am asked to help Admin. will I use an Admin pass.
just my thoughts
id like to know what happened to the last admin. i mean was their to many virus/trojan incidents and they fired him or did he find a better job?
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imagine you trying to download and you can't save on your harddisk for later recovery without calling him, or your wanting to run a program , and you see a link that says vb... has been disabled,
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users should not be allowed to download anything...thats a fact, sorry, and unless your a programmer or a database administrator or the like, vb is just a toy that you cant play with. this dosnt sound like an outragous policy to me sounds more like hes doing the job the last guy didn't/wouldn't/couldn't do.
i dont blame you for being angry. i mean nobody likes change but thats the way its going to be no matter where you go. get over it or start your own biz. you try to get over on him and im pretty sure he'll see your fired.
I have found that the easiest way to get a strict admin to ease up is to call him for everylittle thing that you can. Make him hate his own policiesinstead of trying to get around them. he will eventually get so fed up with having to run around to everyone that he will ase up on the policy then you win without gettting in trouble.
Admin will NOT respond to a verbal request. So, you apply via a mail. Admin store the mail.
You keep on mailing, they keep on storing.
At any meeting in the future, YOUR feet will not touch, you will not be allowed back to your desk, and you will be escorted from the premises.....................
Moral: Don't p1$$ of the Admin unless you have a VERY strong case, or, are wearing extremely robust and flameproof undies..........
No dont do things that are out of line. But in any situation that you can call him for help without looking like an ass do it. Dont try to go around him. just use him and use him and use him. Im assuming if a good number of people keep asking for him to come over to do a common task he will eventually realise that you guys can handle the task without him.
wow, I missed this one while I was at the beach. My jaw dropped by just reading the subject line and it dropped farther when I saw that the thread status was somewhat positive!
For anybody that has issues with their network admin, it should be clear in their heads why this dislike exists. Is it because the admin restricts certain things you would like to do, or is it because the admin restricts certain things you have to do for your job? I guess with every admin in a new company there is a short accomodation period where they will make everything-IT very hard and gradually ease up as they see how the company works. But don't be a bitch and try to get the admin in trouble just because you can't get MSN to download if it's only use is to speak to friends [yeah, you could use MSN for the job, I know]. Chances are, you're going to be the one in trouble, and t=nothing would happen to the sys admin.. and.. you don't want the sys admin to be your enemy:
The Bastard Operator from Hell
hmmm..
it wasn't clearly explained just what this admin is doing that seems so bad to so many in this thread.
Are the files you are trying to download have anything to do whatsoever with your actual work?
Is the printer you can't print to the one you are actually supposed to be using?
MSN? seems to me that is not a necessary business application....most businesses I am familiar with use email almost exclusively for communcication with clients, vendors and co-workers...
What this sounds like to me is someone who has gotten used to being allowed to do anything by the previous admin, and is now bristling under the new admins more secure policies.
if this is the case, deal with it....it is perfectly acceptable for you to be highly restricted in what you can and can not do in a business environment.
When it comes to network security, the admin is ALWAYS right.