win 2000 ???

well you remember all the warez and stuff you could digg up in the web for win 98 & 95 regarding ,well like there was a warz which could locate the dial up and cached p/w and stuff like that you know , but after the introductin of 2000 and the xp family ive hardly seen any of them , can you tell me why. no i dont want them you know i was just curious,that even after lets say 5 yrs of introduction of 2000, ive nevr seen a warz for it

all i wanna know is why , may it is the file system ntfs to fat 32 , or is it the new security feature embedded in 2000 and if it is how does it work , just curious.....

plz don negg me for my curiousity , jut wondering why , no links or files required

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They still exist. L0phtCrack and Cain&Abel are 2 that I can think of right now.

they do , i thought they don't and thats why they call win 2000 more SECURE OS .

An OS is as secure as the user can set it to be...windows 98 can become secure if u really want it to be :)

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Ha ha, ya it even becomes a more SECURE OS when it's turned off! Try breaking in then!

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L0phtCrack

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Ahh the testing day's.. *sighs*

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windows 98 can become secure if u really want it to be

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I take serious heart to that ;) My box is stable, reliable, secure, and NICE. :D I'm in the process of switching firewall's though. /me need's to find that Kerio download link.

My computer has wake on lan. It can be turned on remotely is what I've been told. Here's a link for security tools that should work on 2000.
http://www.insecure.org/tools.html

kerio: http://www.kerio.com/kpf_download.html

lol Spyder, I use XP on my laptop and PC, but it has NEVER, I repeat NEVER crashed, NEVER done anything I didnt want it to do, and it almost Never runs anything without my permition. I pretty much have only things that I want running on that...nothing extra, nothing less. The same can be done with 98 at an extent.

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at an extent.

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There is no "at an extent" with me. :D

well,well well what do we have here , win 2000,is not secure as i thought it would be ,
as you know, thanx for kiling my curisity .!!

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win 2000,is not secure as i thought it would be

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Er, why would you say that? Window's 2000 is actually quite secure (if not THE most secure distribution of the Window's family) and is very stable. If anything, I wanna keep your curiosity alive ;)

Ya they still do exist and ya that would be why they would call ME 2000 and XP way more secure...

Calling Window's ME secure is like calling a homeless person for some money.

I run Windows 2000 Pro and I love it. It doesn't crash doesn't do anything without my permission. However I have a buddy who is running the OS on identical hardware and he has a horrible time always crashing getting screwed by viruses and the like. Your box is only as secure as you make it. But I believe Windows 2000 Pro is a rather good OS probably the best MS has put out.

- MilitantEidolon

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Your box is only as secure as you make it. But I believe Windows 2000 Pro is a rather good OS probably the best MS has put out.

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Couldn't agree more. My Win98 box is more secure than my friend's Redhat box (probably because he doesn't believe in physical security :D) and it work's relatively well compared to the typical stereotype you hear/think of when you think of Win98. Same can be said about my OpenBSD system, although it has a good rep and my system only further's that one :D.

2000 and XP can be more secure than 98, Since they are based of NT and have some reasonable secureity features out of the box. But saving your connection password to any machine is sort of trusting that it can't be compromised. Theres a number of programs that are legit for displaying the passwords for connections on XP. One that comes to mind is 'behind the astrixs'. Progams like this only work if you choose to save the password. Cain and able on the other hand reveal more than just the saved connection password, cain cain pull quite a number of them from everything to the email passwords to the actual login password for the admin account on the machine.

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2000 and XP can be more secure than 98, Since they are based of NT and have some reasonable secureity features out of the box.

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No doubt. It all is "in the eye of the beholder" though. Meaning it's all up the user, is the OS'es security.

Yourdeadin,

My reply would be that Win95/98/98Se and ME are stand alone home computer OSes, they actually don't have any security. Anyone who can access the machine logs in with full Admin rights.

NT4/NT5(2K) and XP do have inbuilt security, as they are intended for commercial networks.

The comments about the user having to make the system secure are absolutely correct. The reason you have seen more "warez" for the home OSes is because they are far less secure in the first instance. And they were more common in the marketplace.

And whilst I am here I will have a "pop" at Spyder~ :D Actually Win98 and ME are equally insecure...........it is just that ME tends to be much more UNSTABLE, which is a bit different.

I am a great fan of Win2000, but I used to use NT4, which it was developed from. I have not had any problems with my XP box for over 18 months either for that matter.

However, as has been suggested, no OS is secure if you don't make it so, and anything can be hacked/cracked if you have a mind to do so.

just my thoughts

i truely agree with milatant win 2000 is a very very stable os , the best ive seen in the M$ family not even Xp gets any where near it , you know Xp is more aboutlooks and sale than win 2000, win 2000 is quite better , well thats my personal opion , cant want to see win 2003 in a box
thanx foe quenching my quiery

Why is XP better?

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...aturecomp.mspx

http://pcbuyersguide.com/software/sy...enchmarks.html


Oh man, the lists of comparisons just go on and on. XP isn't just a visual upgrade, the code has been rewritten from the ground up, whereas 2k was based on a mixture of 98 and NT4 source code. Everything from network protocols (it uses the FreeBSD IPstack) to system handling (gold and super thread handling), AMD and Intel specific processing instructions, multitask latency handling (things run faster when multi tasking in XP than in 2k).

I did a ton of self tests to see the differences in everything from speed to gaming, security to stability. I suprised myself, being an old win2k zealot. XP beat it in every single aspect, even RAM usage. (I can get windows XP running down to 30-40 megs of ram, sometimes less)

Of course, that's just my studies and research but I can bet plenty of others who have sat down to learn XP as good as any admin should, can tell you why 2003 or XP is a much better choice than 2k.

I agree the OS is as secure as the user makes it. I have windows XP and Peanut linux. My XP is probably as secure is my Peanut.

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whereas 2k was based on a mixture of 98 and NT4 source code.

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Yeah, moreso on NT4 though. Gotta love the code for it though and how it was built into Win2k.

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(it uses the FreeBSD IPstack)

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Wow, never knew that. Thanks pooh :)

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Of course, that's just my studies and research

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If I haven't said it once, I'll say it again: Pooh, your a Window's Wizard ;).

Yah i am sure they still have it 100% sure it is just more secure so it is harder to find.

pooh( really you are a win geek)
you done your own stability test ,like how do you do your own stability tests , would you mind sharing the knowledge with AO members

see for those who move from 98 to xp they find the change drastic , they do not get very comfotable in xp , like me , i was some what vey incomfortanle with the visul appearence once i moed from 98 to xp ,it seems to much sophistecated for me, i duno about you , but the people who went to xp right from the begginning they have no troubles,i know 98 like the back of my hand i cannot say any thing about me or 2000 and the predecers , i felt very comfortable in 2000 as i knew (atleast had an idea )what was going , it still had the 98 touch in it , noww going from 2000 to xp i'll not be as uncomfortable as i was when i moved from 98 to XP
won't you agree

I could probably say I know Win98 and WinMe like the back of my hand. I'm slowly learning OpenBSD like the back of my hand as well, but I'm gradually learning the in's and out's of that OS. It's alway's good to dig deep and learn as much as possible about an OS and how it work's, why, etc.