how secure is dish internet

hey...my friend is moveing out to the country and is going to get dish internet....and that got me thinking....how secure is dish internet
from what i know it would be almost impossiable for them to have a direct connection with each house...they probably do spot beaming...but...if someone knew what they were doing...couldnt they come up with a new kind of war driving...be able to sniff out packets anyware....get what im saying?

example

dish in sky
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_______|__________
| | |
home users are down here

couldnt someone come in here between the home users and the dish and see what is going in and out?..they most liely have encryption but not all encryption is perfect


any thoughts? ideas? something i didnt think about or missed?...please share

since a lot of companies use satelite communications, you will get the same security as they.
I can tell you: its possible to sniff, but isnt for anyone. You need special equip to get that frequency.

Satelite Internet has a problem: lag. Since packets must travel to space and come back 2 times (1 to ISP and 1 for the return packet) its not design to gaming. You will lag a lot trying to play. Satelite has at least a .5 delay. so think about before buy it.

However its good for other applications, such as file transfer and heavy transfer

www.deanet.it/english/e-journal/ieee/Satellite%2520W1003%2520ENG.doc&hl=en]this should be helpful[/url]

yea my friend isnt a big gammer...starcraft mainly...wich will run fine on 56k so sat should be fine

and as for the link...yes it was very helpfull....thank you :)

If he gets a good 56k link on Dial up he will be much happier than with Dish.

he went out to the site where his house is with his laptop....they have 14.4...on a good day

but in a year or so dsl will be avaliable out their

nah, 56k will be damn faster than 2mb on dish, for gaming.
It why i was tolding about lag.
Trust me, you cant play on dish

I use to play Diablo using company international link (vsat). Its SO better using dial up.

Dont buy a dish for gaming.

I tried playing America's Army on my Grandparent's Sattelite Connection... I thought it would be fine considering how fast it seemed when doing long haul downloads and surfing... For example downloading AA (800mb) but I started playing and haven't seen lag that bad since my days on AOL which was oh.... 8 years ago?

yes, downloading is good. surfing is good.
normal usage is good.
but applicatiions that use real time communications:
i.e. games, VoIP
will get a **** performance on dish

My personal take on Dish is lag was steady around 500 and often spiked to 2000. Web surfing is faster on dialup because by the time the data burst game the page was already loaded. :) You know I would look for another wireless solution. There are new one's popping up all over. Is he 10 miles from a city. Here are some examples:

http://www.pcisys.com/wireless.php

http://www.codenet.net/services/wireless.asp

These solution are better than dish, yeah I am biased. :)

they looked into wireless, cabel, dsl, dialup, and satalite....they are an hours drive out of town so no wireless or cabel yet...dsl will roll out next year for them in their area, they only have 14.4bps connection on dialup and satalite seems like the best option for now....his dad works for direct tv so they get a discount

Tell your friend to rewire his house... That is probably why he gets such slow dial up. He might be able to get 30 or so if he rewires. If they do the rewiring themselves it should only cost about $100... Maybe less... That would certainly be cheaper than paying for dish for a few months compared to paying for dial up.

its not the house its the wireing out their...and they called the phone company and they only guarintie 14.4...the house is only 10 years old......trust me....satalite is his only option for year...then the phone company will be updating the lines to carry dsl....aparently the lines date back to the 50's or something

Security on SAT is pretty good. Most of that stuff is C-Band or L-Band, though some are in the K, X, or even Ka bands ( http://history.acusd.edu/gen/recording/spectrum.html ). Other than the L-Band, it would require a pricey and hard to find microwave receiver. Not impossible but in the difficult category, and a little too expensive for your average WAR-*-er.

On top of that is the DSP (Digital signal processor) needed to break out the bits, an understanding of the encoding protocol to make sense out of it, Polorization of the radio signal, directivity of a dish transmitting antenna to overcome, and finally the multiplexing technique used on the RF transmission.

Takes special equipment, training, money and a will to overcome all of these things. Not the same as your average guy runnung net stumbler from his laptop while riding the METRO through downtown DC.

And that is if the signal is not encrypted which is possible.

Hope this helps

holy $h17.....that be a complicated system.....yes that does help alot thank you

hehe. I thought you were faking a speach impedement

"how secure is dish internet"

Dish encryption hasn't been broken. Well assuming it's the same mechanism as the television part.

i suck at grammer...failed it 2 years running :)....did really good in math tho