hi all, Is it possible to remove the cpu socket or do you have to relace the motherboard, I have burn marks in mine and the award winning tech support(dell) isn't helping, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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hi all, Is it possible to remove the cpu socket or do you have to relace the motherboard, I have burn marks in mine and the award winning tech support(dell) isn't helping, any help would be greatly appreciated.
I guess it would be possible to replace the whole socket but I definitely would not suggest it as there are millions of soder points beneath it. and it would be nearly impossible to do without messing something else up.
If you want a new socket your best bet is to get a new Motherboard.
Burn marks on the CPU socket won't really hurt anything, but you might wanna make sure that your heatsink has good contact with the CPU.
Are you overclocking or anything?
Due to special conditions where to MB was manufactured, i dont believe that someone can strip it out and put another one.... and if someone can, the price to buy a new one will be sooo lower....
if you have a high used pc (or older) you will see some "footprints" on it... its just the time, man.
are your computer presenting any anomalie?
no overclocking, the processor was put in backwards and bent some pins on it, but then I got looking at the socket whick is what the processor plugs into right? it it showed what looks like burnholes on it or even maybe broke processor pins.
Yes the socket is what the CPU plugs into.
Now there will be a ton of tiny holes on it though for the CPU pins.
DId dell put it in backwards or were playing around with it and then put it back in?
If it was put in backwards, I don't think it would of ever really worked. You would of gotten some beeps at post.
Nope, it definatley not possible to change the socket, it is connected to every thing else on the Mother Board, so you would have to replace all these connections too!
In the end you would be rebuilding the entire MoBo! Much much cheaper and eaiser to buy a new board!
Sounds like you need a new cpu and mo bo!
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Originally posted here by david244us
the processor was put in backwards and bent some pins on it, but then I got looking at the socket whick is what the processor plugs into right? it it showed what looks like burnholes on it or even maybe broke processor pins.
And GLASSES, don't forget your glasses :D
If you wish to remove the 'burn marks' there are aerosols that will remove the deposits AND evaporate, you don't touch the Mo/Bo. Just spray it on.............
Although I'm of the opinion that you have indeed effed your Mo/Bo AND CPU.
Learn from this at least, as it only gets MORE expensive the longer it goes on....
With how complex the socket is, I doubt anyone could change it. Many motherboards, or at least mine, is split into 6 or 7 layers of electronic components. If you happen to miss one of the layers when you put a new socket in, or basically create an open circuit, your computer won't work. And it would be a pain in the butt to figure out which of the up to 940 pins on the underside of the socket aren't touching the layers they are supposed to...
Your best bet is to replace the motherboard. And the processer doesn't sound like it is in spectacular shape either...
thanks for all the help ya'll, sounds like i'm better off getting a motherboard, looks like some pins broke off the processor into the socket lol. Sucks but now i need to get it up and running, any recomendations on a good mboard and processor setup. It's a dell 1.6 ghz in it now.
Head to town, find the nearest PC shop, start a conversation with one of the staff.
But first:
Sort out your budget, check out what REALLY needs to go from the old kit.
Get an idea on prices at various on-line stores.
(I'm recommending a tete a tete at the shop so you get to take it away with you there and then, speed is of the essence.)
Head for Spec-Savers, GET AN EYE TEST :D
Your question is too vague for anything but the most flimsy reply.
I would suggest getting the fastest CPU you can afford, and teaming it with a Mo/Bo that can take some upgrading / over clocking (so you don't run out of steam too quickly.)
Match the RAM to you NEW system. Names aren't that important, get 512 MB min.
Use Mo/Bo sound for now.
original GPU still OK ? keep it.....
Next time: DON'T RUSH AT IT..........
Building a PC is like making love to a beautiful woman...........
You want to plug your hardware into her socket before she decides that she really must go.
BUT:
Take your time and she may stick around........
Then you can Feck it up as often as you want, in your own good time :D
I'm not sure if Dell's computers (their power supplies) are compatible with other motherboards. And their cases might even be shaped differently than a regular motherboard. IE, you wouldn't be able to screw the new motherboard in quite right...
You might have to pretty much consider building a new computer, unless you can get a replacement motherboard and CPU that are the same as the ones you broke. You can get a pretty nice upgrade for around $500 if you know what to look for and can build it yourself without messing it up like you did to the parts above.
But at your computer store, if you want them to build it, prepare to have them recommend you over $700 in computer upgrades - when my ~$500 of upgrading would probably be more than you need anyways and "on par" (if not higher quality than) with their recommendations. I dunno, I am kind of a killer of local economies with my depending on reliable and cheap Internet sources -- and the way I point people to them I'd probaby go out of business if I decided to get into computer work and kept telling everyone where to get stuff cheap :D
Since its a Dell I think you will have to go to them directly for a new mobo because Dell makes machines that arent very friendly to people who like to upgrade them with aftermarket parts later.
Hmmm,
What sort (make/model) of Dell is it?
I find it hard to see how you can break the pins and do a reverse installation of a P4 processor that is supposed to be ZIF (zero insertion force).
At worst the MoBo and processor are trashed...............that leaves you with a box and a power supply...............not really worth the effort IMHO. You should be able to buy a new one for $50
You can recover the memory, 3.5" floppy. CD & DVD drives, the hard drives, keyboard, mouse and VDU screen. You might also be able to recover the sound, video and modem cards if they are not integrated into the motherboard.
You then need a new MoBo, case and power supply, and processor.............I am no expert on US prices, but I would guess that you are looking at around $200.
At least you will have a proper BIOS rather than the "castrated" versions that Dell ship :D
just my thoughts
thanks again all for the help, It's a custom made dell computer, i have 100 gig western digital and soundblaster live audio, p4 processor 1.6ghz, the socket is 478 pins, hate to buy things like new mobos when i get home to put it in it doesn't fit lol, I have 512 ram , so think i will try to find a compatible board and cpu instead of buying a whole computer like you say nihil. well off to work thanks again :)
My advise was always to keep away from Dell. I heard to many complaints about them.
Check out http://www.ebuyer.com/
They've got customer reviews on many products they sell. Often came in handy to me.
All that our company uses is dells.
So far we have about 50 dells and have only had about 2 or 3 problems with them.
BTW, Dell is considered one of the 1st class pc manufactures around the world.
They are Delll, IBM (and HP in the past)
CPU backward?!?!? Did you turn it on? If you did you can be sure both the CPU and the mainboard are dead.
Call Dell and ask if your model can handle an ATX formfactor mainboard. If it's a regular ATX formfactor you should be able to fit any recent board in it.
Dell and IBM are the best premade computers at the moment and in the last 3 years or so... I see TONS of problems with the walmart/staples HP's people get... It's horrid.
Compaq (HP), Dell, IBM, ... when you put your cpu backwards on your mobo, then it doesn't realy matter. (except when Dell placed it backwards themselfs offcourse) ;)
Check if standard form factors (ATX, µATX, ...) fit in your case and place such.
I don't think you can get a replacement motherboard from Dell to replace the one you fried. I don't think they sell those seperately. At least they don't for their Laptops. The only way is to send it in for repair...which might be tricky/expensive considering you obviously messed it up :D
Definately check compatability, and get that computer working though!
BTW, I think Dell makes okay computers, though I've never owned one except for a used PowerEdge 4300 Server. But their support isn't that great (relayed expirence someone had trying to get a compatible PSU from them), but looking at other manufactuers, nobody has good support now a days I think.