Bush to Pull 70,000 Troops from Europe, Asia

it's about f#$Ken time.


http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/arti...ws%2e6&cid=842

SIOUX CITY, Iowa (Aug. 14) - President Bush has decided to bring home tens of thousands of U.S. troops from posts around the world - most of them in Europe and Asia - plus 100,000 of their family members and support personnel, U.S. officials said Saturday. The changes will have no effect on forces in Iraq or Afghanistan.

As part of the largest troop realignment in years, Bush will shift about 70,000 uniformed military personnel, most of them currently in Europe, two senior administration officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity. A significant proportion will come home, though it was not clear when.

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...only about 130k to go!

if their not going to help us and only be antagonistic...pull'um all. they dont need or want our forces there so get them the hell out and stop wasting our resources on a bunch of goofballs.

god i hope this means the end of our involvment in nato! next maybe we could relocate the UN building into the middle of NY harbour

I must say I love the timing of this. Who needs the useless, corrupt UN, not the USA, just look what countries sit on the UN Security Council? I will vote for any Presidential candidate who says they are going to pull us out of the UN!


Kofi Annan's latest statements on Iraq
The Secretary-General is extremely concerned at the widespread fighting that has broken out in Iraq over the last several days, especially in the holy city of Najaf. He is particularly troubled by the high toll of dead and wounded, including civilian casualties.

The Secretary-General believes that, in such a situation, force should be a last resort. He calls for every effort to be made, even at this late hour, to work out a ceasefire and peaceful solution.

News flash, why don’t get you big fat political nose out of Iraq and check out your ****ing mother land, you’re a joke! Living the life of a ****ing celebrity while the real “widespread fighting” ,genocide is in his own homeland.

Yeah, it's about time we brought our boys home from World War II
There has really been no excuse to leave them there after the Russians
pulled out over ten years ago.

If Europe ever has any security needs in the future, I'm sure their
robust economy will support any armies they need to defend
themselves, without our help.

The USA will bankrupt itself just dealing with the Arabs. There's
no need to throw money away in Europe.

While we're at it, we could close all those bases in the far east,
like Okinawa, where the troops are so bored that raping the
local high school girls is their main sport.
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"raping the local high school girls is their main sport."

and here i thought it was heroine use that passed the time over there!

Soldiers respond to the Bush "troop homecoming".
"I do have some stories to tell. Seeing as how most of my three years was spent in Germany they are mostly drinking stories."

The last time I was in Germany they shipped out the American soldiers out of the southern part of the country, and all that were left were the soldiers in the north. I will laugh if Russia takes over Europe and they start begging us for help. **** the Fat Cats here and there.

Where will the troops be deployed when they get home ?
Will you 'downsize' your forces, to make those that are left "more efficient" ?

For another option, I reprint the plan suggested by Robin Williams:
( You HAVE to agree with Points 2 and 9.)

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subject: Fw: THE ROBIN WILLIAMS US PEACE PLAN

Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan ..what we
need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message.

I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for
peace. So, here's one plan.
1. The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their affairs,
past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Noriega, Milosovich
and the rest of those 'good ole boys, 'We will never "interfere" again.

2. We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany,
South Korea and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station
troops at our borders. No one sneaking through holes in the fence.

3. All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave.
We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be
gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are.
France would welcome them.

4. All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days
unless given a special permit. No one from a terrorist nation would be
allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide
here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more
cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

5. No "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they
don't attend classes, they get a "D" (for "deport") and it's back home baby.

6. The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise.
This will include developing non-polluting sources of energy but will
require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou
will have to cope for a while.

7. Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for
their oil. If they don't like it, we go some place else. They can go somewhere
else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage
sites would be enough.)

8. If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will
not "interfere." They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement
or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or
given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.

9. Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island some place. We don't
need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make
a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.

10. All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one
can call us "Ugly Americans" any longer. The Language we speak is
ENGLISH.....learn it...or LEAVE...

Now, ain't that a winner of a plan.

"The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying "Give me your poor, your tired,
your huddled masses." She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling,

"You want a piece of me?"

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Do I detect a touch of animosity towards Europe ? (note: UK = Europe by location, not by choice....)

Please don't tar us all with the same brush, as there ARE some of us who quite like you Yanks.

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god i hope this means the end of our involvment in nato!

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nato served it's purpose, it remains to be seen what the future requirements are. But I personally think that with the demise of the Soviet threat, that nato and seato have had their day. ( you HAVE heard of seato ?..... south east aisa treaty org.)

Well, there has been a lot of changes on Okinawa over the past 6 years I've been around it. Now, you have to hold a certain rank to be able to own and drive a vehicle. Not everyone is bad and raping the high school girls or burning down bars, but it is of course the bad people who draw all of the attention. I've lifeguarded for 2 years on a military community pool and have meet my fair share of cool marines, and the trouble makers.

Oh, and Tedob1, I don't think it is possible to get that on Okinawa. That island is surrounded by two things. Ocean. And the NCIS. There have been drug issues on the island, but it is mainly left to over the counter drugs that are illegal in the USA/on base, but not in Japan. If you do some searches on "Bron" and Okinawa, you should find out a bit. Hey, and you might even see the story that landed my old school was on the front page of the area's newspaper for something that happened the year before by a girl who was shipped back to the USA for what she did on Oki. Although she was never mentioned in it, the whole story was extrapollated off of what she did by one of the most resented reporters in the area.

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Who needs the useless, corrupt UN, not the USA, just look what countries sit on the UN Security Council

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Well the USA for one.

Would you rather not be on the UN security council? Just think, no more VETO for plans that go against your self interest.

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Originally posted here by jinxy
Well the USA for one.

Would you rather not be on the UN security council? Just think, no more VETO for plans that go against your self interest.

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'UN security council', what a ****en joke! like sanctions against isreal and weapons inspectors in iraq. lets not fight, france doesn't like it! we're quit capable of looking out for our own interests thank you! and since when does either look out for the interests of the US. they wont be making a whole lot of plans once they have to foot the whole bill themselves and buy their own toys to play with. not that they cant survive without us but see how they like it when all of the troops they deploy are from their own nations. its a club where we pay the highest dues, in money and man power, and the club itself does whatever it can to spite us. neither NATO or the UN does ANYTHING for us.

kofi has announced its not genocide being committed in the sudan. an announcement he made right after president bush and the US congress called it genocide. their not trying to kill ALL blacks just those in the sudan. maybe the tribesman should apply passive resistance. that might please mr annan

Foxey, are NATO and the UN the only reasons the US and UK are allies? or Poland or some others? international relations dont depend upon a bunch of pussys. they exist in spite of them.

Haven't seem that robin williams piece before. actually i didn't think he was that much of a conservative. but that seems to be the feelings of a growing number of americans. ive been ranting this in cosmos since i first joined AO. glad to see im not alone any more. "want a piece of me" ...thats great!

update:

Germany will be hit harder than any other country by US President George W. Bush's announcement on Monday that the Pentagon will withdraw 70,000 troops from overseas and return them to US bases, US officials said at the weekend.

About 45,000 of the reduction will come in Europe, a majority being culled from the 75,000 US servicemen based in facilities across Germany. The US has been in talks with German officials about its plans for more than a year. It will be the biggest restructuring of US forces overseas since the end of the cold war. The plans include a general briefing in December when most of the overview was presented, according to a senior state department official.

Senior Pentagon officials have emphasised that any reduction is not connected with Germany's opposition to the Iraq war.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/7c357c6e-ee...00e2511c8.html

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Foxey, are NATO and the UN the only reasons the US and UK are allies

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I'm sure Foxey will have his own view, but to my mind the reasons for us being allies are far more complex than that.

Now if i was cynical i would say the only reason we are allies is because the UK held some strategic use to the USA, at least during the cold war.

You make a big deal about France and Germany opposing the Iraq war, but it was not that long ago that America threatend to make a Run On The Pound If the UK didn't back down over the Suize Cannal.

Now if you were cynical, you could say that the only reason we are allies is the Brits no which side there bread is buttered.

But at the end of the day we both nead each other to varying degrees. You can not police the world alone, to attempt to would be catastrophic on your econemy. To withdraw to your boarders and go back to the isolationist policies of pre-world war 1, would be equaly bad for you.

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Originally posted here by Tedob1
Haven't seem that robin williams piece before. actually i didn't think he was that much of a conservative. but that seems to be the feelings of a growing number of americans. ive been ranting this in cosmos since i first joined AO. glad to see im not alone any more. "want a piece of me" ...thats great!

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This has been circulating the internet since 2003 and is not true.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/williams.asp

http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...liams-plan.htm

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To withdraw to your boarders and go back to the isolationist policies of pre-world war 1, would be equaly bad for you.

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And that is where a major strife errupts in personal political views. Both the extreme left and extreme right wish that upon the masses. I call it the Suicide Policy.

America and Britain should go to the UN and form the United-United Kingdom of States? :D

Personally I would like us to go to a median between isolationist and imperalist. I don't want to cut us off from the world, but I don't think we need to stick our nose into everyone elses business either.

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Foxey, are NATO and the UN the only reasons the US and UK are allies? or Poland or some others? international relations dont depend upon a bunch of pussys. they exist in spite of them.

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IMHO we are allies because of historical reasons. We Owned J00z :eek: until George III lost the plot, and your very own home grown 'terrorist' (GW) kicked our butts back home.

Since then we have been inextricably tied together, and, for better or worse, when the gloves come off, we are both on the same side. And long may it continue.......

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Originally posted here by jinxy

Now if i was cynical i would say the only reason we are allies is because the UK held some strategic use to the USA, at least during the cold war.

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I believe we were refered to as 'An Unsinkable Aircraft Carrier'

Also; in the early days of the cold war, we were the early warning system. Our radar (Pre over the horizon technology) would see the missiles coming, and you would get a warning, giving you vital minutes to make your final moves.

This gave us an insight into 'military intelligence', as our missile at the time was 'Blue Streak', with a warm up to launch time of 28 minutes.

When we 'saw' the missiles on radar, we had FOUR MINUTES to go.

So; we could boil an egg. But not eat it.
Begin SEX. But not finish.................... Not me anyway, no good under pressure.
Or; we could prep our missiles. BUT NOT BE ABLE TO LAUNCH THEM......

As for Robin Williams peace plan; I'd posted it in Tech Humour, as it made me laff.....
Sorry to CXGJarrod, for not checking it out better.

You are now finding out what we in the UK have known for GENERATIONS.
Germany and (mainly) France are in this for themselves.

I found a quote from someone: (unknown)

What is the world coming to.
The best Rapper in the world is White.
The best Golfer in the world is Black
The French accuse the Americans of being arrogant.
And the Germans are refusing to go to war.......

The Germans even accused the Poles of getting too big for their boots ?
When they agreed to send troops to Iraq. (200 special forces, bomb disposal.)

I've attached a .txt file.
giving details of French military 'success'.
After reading it, you might understand just why they are anti 'war in Iraq'
Apart from the billions of $$ they were making in selling Sadman anything from weaponry to nuke power plants.......
You are the new kid on the block, and you have power only dreamed about by the empire builders of the past. They COULD be jealous............. But they would NEVER admit to anything so petty and childish. So they will just deny fly over rights to our military aircraft (as when you bombed Libya, you had to fly via SPAIN. (note to Americans, Spain is to the left of France, and therefore, further to fly) Use of UK land bases was important to show solidarity. You COULD have launched from the 6th fleet carriers. But Ronnie and Mags had that special relationship, and you could tell it got right up le french nostrils.


And yet again I've drifted into that region of off topicness that is beinning to characterise my cosmos posts.

Damn; but I LOVE it here...............

Hi Foxy,

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Also; in the early days of the cold war, we were the early warning system. Our radar (Pre over the horizon technology) would see the missiles coming, and you would get a warning, giving you vital minutes to make your final moves.

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Not quite, those were the "golf balls" at RAF Fylingdales (just up the road from me)

The USA got 30 minutes, we got 4, depending on the attack vector. Thule Airbase was their far end of the DEW (Defence Early Warning) line. NOW we have the pyramid............kills onboard car (automobile) computers :D

RAF (Royal Air Force) Fylingdales is up and running hot, straight and normal :D

Well it does "torpedo" automobiles..................

Cheers

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The Germans even accused the Poles of getting too big for their boots ?

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That's funny considering the Nazis invaded Poland in 1939 after taking over the Czechs.