Red Ink too Scary for Kids in School!

I was never afraid of Red ink being on my test papers. I was afraid of the Belt that my father would lay upside my hine end when he saw the red ink.

http://www.boston.com/news/education...seeing_purple/

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When it comes to correcting papers and grading tests, purple is emerging as the new red.

"If you see a whole paper of red, it looks pretty frightening," said Sharon Carlson, a health and physical education teacher at John F. Kennedy Middle School in Northampton. "Purple stands out, but it doesn't look as scary as red."

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My sons teacher has no fear about her kids being afraid of red ink...or red lead. The kids grade each others papers with red pencils, and she does it with red ink. Poor poor little 3rd graders, maybe I should bring this to the school boards attention! ;)

What a load of crap, I have a feeling it's the fact that the grade is bad that kids are afraid of, and now we're just going to have a bunch of kids afraid of red and purple! At least keep it to one color!! :D

that is just pathetic....seriously, whats next? I can just see it:

"Teachers cannot grade student's work with a grade lower than a B because it promotes child abuse from the parents"

This country is wayyyy too child proof, and some things need to change back to the good ole' days

Why don't they just use pink? That'll promote tolerance as a side affect! ;)

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Originally posted here by OverdueSpy
I was never afraid of Red ink being on my test papers. I was afraid of the Belt that my father would lay upside my hine end when he saw the red ink.
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All too true, but my dad is an auto shop teacher and that inch of calus on his hand hurt more than a belt. :(

This is going way too far......if this is true wont they just become conditioned to fear the purple ink?

Edit: Sorry Deb, missed your comment on the color of the ink.

Lol....the color doesn't matter. My son would be scared if it was orange with green polka dots, cause he knows the problem is going to come when he brings it home, regardless of the color of the marks on the paper!

As a side note, I'm fortunate, and I have a very intelligent little boy, who doesn't have to worry about marks of any color on his paper most of the time. His concern is that his teacher this year uses really girly stickers on papers that are well done, and he's tired of getting butterflies and flowers on all of his papers! :D

Luckily I have never had a test with enough red to make my mother angry... I don't want to know what might happen to me.. You all might never hear from me again... If I get below a B on a gradecard I get grounded till it's raised to a B+. I have still yet to have that happen, due to the fact that I love my computer quite dearly, and it falls under being grounded for me.

I heard similar BS when I was in college 10 years ago. One of me Profs graded in green for that very reason. I thought then that it was BS and still do. Really, what difference does the color make? It's still the same failing grade. :-)

They should never EVER grade an F in green. Its like painting the STOP sign in an intersection green, and painting the GO arrow red!

Next we'll be hearing that teachers cannot grade in black ink....it's too insensitive to blacks....especially if the grade is an 'F'. Maybe instead of marking on papers we should just give them an 'A' for turning in the assignment...that way *EVERYONE* feels good!! What a load of crap! We (not me, though) are raising a world of p*ssies who will not be able to function in the real world.

its just like i told my uncle - you are homeschooling your kids all the way until college? You call your son honey and sweetheart? wow.. your son is going to be a mouthy little sexually confused pissant one day with no real understanding of the world.

imagine this - no school, your whole life, then you go to college and try to function. ugh.

The whole red ink thing being scary is no big deal. they wont do anything about it . and by they i mean the gov't. this has been brought up before. they know whatever color they change it to it will simply mean that color is feared now. In all actuality, i like to see red on my paper instead of some other color, from a distance - that way im not dissapointed when i go up there. (no i dont have tons of red on each paper, but some on most.)

Anyway, mel is right - i'm a strong believer in raising your kids to function well in society, whether by whipping them, or just punishing them harshly, and treating them like their age should be treated, instead of like babies there whole life.

For instance, my mom would watch me get hurt, like fall off my bike or something when i was younger. Wait for a minute, let me cry or yell or something, and then come and see if im ok. Then she would clean up my boo-boo and tell me to go back outside and play. This kind of treatment will keep your kid from being needy later on in life, as well as from being a p*ssy like mel said :)

Grades are useless. Homework is too.

Why hand out homework, if they end up doing it wrong?

I don't agree with the "school system."

You have no idea! The school system for my ENTIRE state has been officially deemed unconstiutional by our supreme court! Go Arkansas!

My son brought his weekly folder home today with all the work he's done for the last week in it.

HIS READING TEACHER IS GRADING WITH BLUE INK!!! Is nothing sacred?!!? :D

(I only even noticed the color of the ink cause we were having this discussion...lol)

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A mix of red and blue, the color purple embodies red's sense of authority but also blue's association with serenity, making it a less negative and more constructive color for correcting student papers, color psychologists said. Purple calls attention to itself without being too aggressive. And because the color is linked to creativity and royalty, it is also more encouraging to students.

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The funny thing to me is that with all the things that need to be reported on in the world this reporter chooses to write on the purple ink vs red ink issue. Also who writes this kind of stuff. (Quote above)

Bob: What did you get your degree in Steve.
Steve: I got mine in Information Technology. What about you?
Bob: I got my degree in psychology, with an emphasis in colors. :D

I think that this is the second time I have agreed with Overduespy. Maybe I am turning to the Dark Side of the force. ;)

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Grades are useless. Homework is too.

Why hand out homework, if they end up doing it wrong?

I don't agree with the "school system."

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Thats the biggest load of bullshit, retarded, idiotic thing I've heard in a while.

Cheers.

Depends on where you are actually, Cyb. Out here I'd have to regretfully agree to a point with Er0k. Quality of education has stepped aside for school politics and rushing kids out the front doors with diplomas -- and we wonder why the Arkansas economy is always so bad?! Most of my friends went through high school without ever even touching homework or really even putting forth a real effort. I know when I'm a father, if the situation hasn't improved by then, I'll be much more tempted to home school and make sure they have a real education...only time will tell.

Case in point -- at my local high school, a US Government teacher had her students reading their essays in front of the class, and before long it became obvious she wasn't paying a lick of attention. So the students capitalized on this and started purposefully making up outrageous crap for a laugh, and guess what? She nodded and gave them a good grade afterwards! What, you ask, had her so distracted that she couldn't pay attention to her own class's essays? The answer: she was busy working on her policital campaign for state senator.

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Most of my friends went through high school without ever even touching homework or really even putting forth a real effort.

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I know I did, and I'm pretty good at my ****. I slept throughout my psychology class and still passed with a B+. Lucky for me the teacher agreed to let me do a little experiment by using my "subconcious" to pay attention. I only stayed awake on thursdays...which is when we had a test and whenever she had a cool experiment to show us.


Angelic, my quote was from d00dz attacking, whom did not specify which school system he disagreed with...instead he disagrees with THE school system. The fact that he thinks homework is useless is just an immature comment from someone who hated doing them.

I actually agree with er0k on that aspect that the kid doesn't need to be so dependend on their parents. I know I wasn't....often being left alone in my house while both my parents worked and my older brother went to school. I just kept myself busy with electronics and whatever else I could break in the house which I'd later try to fix :).

Peace

Indeed, indeed. Well I do think we're overdue for a revamped approach. Homework being the hot topic -- it seems all homework is nowadays is the result of the teacher's failure to cover topics in class, or to simply give students "busy work" (as was the case here). That being the case, I'm very anti-homework. What homework should be is the kid's chance to practice and master concepts on his own at his own pace as is needed to enhance the classroom experience. Beyond that, it's just crap.

Being able to claim that I rarely received "homework" is a fleeting imaginative misnomer. Perhaps, that would be because I took primarily AP classes in high school, and college was nothing but homework and studying. Anyways, homework in high school, for me, was required to keep up with the class. For the non-AP classes, homework was simple reinforcement of the days lessons. IMHO doing your homework displays an individual's ability to be responsible, and helps the individual to learn how to "teach themselves" so to speak.

Homework has good uses when applied correctly.

Same here Spy, my AP classes kept me at home buried while everyone else was out playing. ;) I just think a lot of schools need to work more on actually reinforcing lessons and less on just keeping students "busy".

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Same here Spy, my AP classes kept me at home buried while everyone else was out playing. I just think a lot of schools need to work more on actually reinforcing lessons and less on just keeping students "busy".

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Unfortunately theres only so much you can teach a student in 45-50 minutes. The best way to learn(or get better at something) is by practice...that applies to everything. The best way to be better at sex, sports, school, work is by pratice. Homework offers that by practicing what you did in class. I am pro homework although I hated doing them.

Of course it depends from one school to the other, and every school has incompetent teachers who use homework not for the intended purpose (I.E. Punishiing a student). I've deal with incompetent teachers in college whom were not prepared for their materials, taught the class by reading the book and did not know the names of the electronic materials (Resistors, transistors, transformers...etc).

Cheers.

Punishing the student eh? I remember when I was late for class and my English teacher wanted to know why I was late, so I told her that while on the way to school I was pulled out of my car by a band of Amazon weomen and willfully molested. Hee Hee. So, for my smart $$$ remark, I was told that I had to copy the definition of the word "RUN" 10 times from the dictionary. No problem right? OMG you should look up that definition. The pain is still seared into my brain and my cramped yellow #2 gripping fingertips.

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No problem right? OMG you should look up that definition. The pain is still seared into my brain and my cramped yellow #2 gripping fingertips.

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OK :) No problem :D

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Lol lol lol To the entire pen color thing, That’s all bs no one even cares about the colors. All that people notice are the grades

Cybr1d,

Your ultimately right about me. But, answer my question.
Please don't reply with "practice."

Wisdom......

I am older than alot of you, and when I went to school, they did not care about our feelings. Did this in any way affect how I turned out. Nope, not at all. I work at a university and am taking classes there. You know what, there are no freshman at this university anymore. You are now known as a first year student.

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Why hand out homework, if they end up doing it wrong?

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The answer is not practice. I was never going to say it was practice. I'll answer to it with an example.

When I first came to the US, I had no clue what anything was, and where anything was. It was a completely different/alien world to me, coming from a third world country. Every day, me and my brother would start walking around the city I lived in, and around the neighboring cities. We got lost quite often, which was good. The next day we knew where we got lost and how we found our way. Now I know my way around the Eastern part of Massachusetts like the back of my hand. I never learned the names of most streets, but I can sure as hell find my way around them, and get to my destination.

Same principle applies to homework. You go over what you did wrong, and you learn that one of the steps that you took, is not what you think it is, which resulted in the wrong answer. You learn the correct step, and you get the right answer.


"I have not failed 10,000 times. I have successfully found 10,000 ways that will not work" - Thomas Edison


Peace.

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Maybe instead of marking on papers we should just give them an 'A' for turning in the assignment...that way *EVERYONE* feels good!!

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LOL! Sounds like the "Outcome Based Education" crap some of the schools around here are doing. "It's ok that you haven't 'mastered' the lesson yet. You can try taking the test again next week, ok? Oh, and by the way, here's the answers to the ones you got wrong. Yes, I know the test next week will be exactly the same, but I'm sure by then you'll have mastered it."

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BUNOL, Spain (Reuters) - Tons of flying tomatoes streaked the streets of Bunol red and left 20,000 visitors wallowing in a pond of pulped fruit as the tiny Spanish town celebrated the world's largest food fight Wednesday.

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You would think that red tomatoes would be considered as "to violent in color for children", and thus only green tomatoes should be used for food fights. :D

Cybr1d,

I respect your opinion, maybe you should return it.

My theory:

Homework if done wrong, could reflect a continuous effort of wrong answers. I believe class should not be 40-45 minutes a class. But, much rather 3-4 hours per class. Therefore you have a teacher to refer too.

I don't agree with grades either. Nothing is lower than shame -- grades reflect in doing so.

School should only be for those whom respect it and learn from it.

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Originally posted here by Cybr1d
incompetent teachers in college whom were not prepared for their materials, taught the class by reading the book and did not know the names of the electronic materials (Resistors, transistors, transformers...etc).Cheers.

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C-b, are you trying to become an electrical engineer? Terms sound oh so familiar, of course that's when I used to sleep on my brothers couch when he was in college studying for an electrical engineer degree. He makes around 73 thousand a year just a little over what I make(entrepreneur).

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C-b, are you trying to become an electrical engineer? Terms sound oh so familiar, of course that's when I used to sleep on my brothers couch when he was in college studying for an electrical engineer degree. He makes around 73 thousand a year just a little over what I make(entrepreneur).

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Nah :D... I started out in Computer Engineering Technology, and the first 2 years of the degree are identical to the Electrical Engineering curiculum. I got sick and tired of it so I switched to Computer Networking Systems. I'll be doing that for the next two years and then I'll be going for degrees in Computer Forensics and Criminal Justice.

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My theory:

Homework if done wrong, could reflect a continuous effort of wrong answers.

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I'm sorry but I strongly think you're wrong on this one. It goes againts the basic human ability to learn/memorize something by doing it enough times. Its part of our nature....The quote I posted for you by Tomas Edison sums it up very nicely.

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I believe class should not be 40-45 minutes a class. But, much rather 3-4 hours per class. Therefore you have a teacher to refer too.

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Unfortunately the attention span of a student is not that long, and it would make the class a boring experience. Yes you can include breaks in between, but sometimes the kids just cannot learn english and math for example, for 3 hours a day.

If you have 3 hour classes, you would still need to do extra work, which in this case would be considered Class Work. 3 hour classes would limit the amount of materials you take a day, from 6-7 to 2-3. That means you'd take a class once a week...leaving you a whole week without refreshing the information.

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I don't agree with grades either. Nothing is lower than shame -- grades reflect in doing so.

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Not everyone looks at it as shameful. Many look at it as a way to see where they stand, and what they need to work on. Grades are also a reward system and a preparation for real life. You do good in a test, you get an A, and you feel pumped up about it. You get a C or a B, you look at what you did wrong and you try harder next time to get that A. If you get a D or below, you're just not putting enough effort on it. Its telling you where you stand. You need a way to distinguish between the hard working, smart students to the dipshits who go to school just so cut classes and be troublemakers. Grades are also used as a guideline for colleges looking at whom to accept at their institution. I could go on and on about why grades are so useful but i'll stop here.

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School should only be for those whom respect it and learn from it.

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It already is.