I shutter in aww

I was reading through a book the other day "the hackers diaries; confessions of a teenage hacker" and in the back of the book there is a part that the author talks about hacking on the web. Well it is basically just a bunch of websites listed with the owners or groups that run the site. Well number two on the list is our very own John Vranesevich. They talk about his site antionline.com and so on but look at what they say: John Vranesevich:"The Web site of the founder of the hacking Web site AntiOnline.com, thought to be one of the best hackers in the world."

Although the sentence structure really ain't that great it still left me in aww. I know I came on the scene here at Antionline alittle late about 1 1/2 yrs ago so I am not as familiar with JP as some are but it still left me with an impression. JP is said to be "one of the best hackers in the world." I know he is no longer on the site but I just want to thank him. He has given me and many here at AO the ability to learn and take in knowledge and isn't that what hacking is all about.

So In closing, I would like to say that just apply yourself to anything and you will get it. Remember that you can eat a whole elephant one bite at a time.

- MilitantEidolon

Yeah JP was cool. I think by best they mean most famous 'hacker'.

never met JP myself either....id probably bow to such glory tho...
and that book is the best....ive read it 5 times, wore out the spine, and did a bio on genocide from memory all thanks to that book

heh, i have that book as well.

JP isn't the best in the world, he is indeed a famous hacker, but not the best. I think he's probably better at ****ing with vbulletin to be honest :)

All hail JP "worlds most famous G33k.!."

Never talked to him but what he did to this place before he sold it to jupm was pretty amazing for it's time..

Three cheers for JP


Oh and what ever happend to YICS it seems to be down.?.

Screw JP, Captain Crunch is on AO!

the captin is on AO?!?....wow....does he go by Captin Crunch or some other alias

http://www.antionline.com/member.php...o&userid=72810

he's got a custom title "a.k.a captain crunch" :)

I posted in a thread that he posted in.. Now I'm special
:)

Yea I guess JP is pretty famous. Ive talked to him in IRC before a few times...He is pretty damn cool and nice.

I met john draper (cap'n. crunch) in IRC once..
JP is still on irc alot..

JP is an ******* and so is his boyfreind. He makes kevin mitnic seem humble. Yea he came up with this site so i gota give him akudo's for that but personality wise he could use some work. And before anybody passes judment about him being the "greatest hacker in the world" please realise one thing. There are more people out there slaming JP than praising him.

/me ducks as the red dots come flying

I cannot say if JP is a "great" hacker or not. All I know he made AntiOnline what it was and made it popular. I learned a lot from it, and it did not matter to me if he was the best hacker or the worst hacker in the world.

I have not seen him on IRC in a while, since yoursincyberspace.com seems to be down a lot. The many times I have talked to him, he is not the nicest guy in the world. However, Brad tends to be more laid back and friendly.... well to me anyway.

What really bothers me is people sucking JP's ass and buying into what the media says. Yes, there are many people that do not care for JP, but I think he can care less.

Like I said in the my first post I have not ever spoken with him so I do not know his personality but this site took alot of work and time. I am not sure of his hacking ability but obviously the book I was reading seems to think so. And although I know you can't believe everything you read it seems that he has alot of notoriety in this field. I am sorry if I ruffled any feathers. The intent of this thread was simply to give credit to where credit is do. He started these forums and I am extremely thankful. These forums are the perfect fix for when you are getting bored with computers it makes you strive to learn more.

- MilitantEidolon

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I have talked to him, he is not the nicest guy in the world.

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Yeah, albn's right about that one.

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Yes, there are many people that do not care for JP, but I think he can care less.

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Right yet again.

You were on a roll there albn! (it's jack, right?)

Now, I must get back to doing the things that the very most uberest of haxors do on a day to day basis: I think I'll start with the laundry, so I have some clean socks to wear.....

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I just reread your post and saw this.

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What really bothers me is people sucking JP's ass and buying into what the media says. Yes, there are many people that do not care for JP, but I think he can care less.

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I am not sure if you were trying to insult me or not but if you are I would like to let you know that in any area of competition in where you want to be the best you need to give credit to those before you. Obviously JP did something right to be mentioned in the book. I would feel honored if someone was to put my name in a book next to the words "most famous hacker" that is all I was saying. I give credit where it is due. If you name was in a book and said something like that I would give you props just like JP because it is a very nice accomplishment.

- MilitantEidolon

If I may make a quickie point from observation --

Who among the hacking community is "nice" for that matter? I think most of us can concur that guys like JP are respected for their professional skills, not their charming personalities. From what I've seen thus far, the hacker culture is generally antisocial and anything but friendly -- but they're darn good at what they do, and that's what we're concerned with here.

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Me :D

I'm the nicest guy you'll meet....I'll buy ya a beer sometime :D

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I'm the nicest guy you'll meet....I'll buy ya a beer sometime

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I'll have a pint of Summer Lightning, thanks :D

beer? kurt want beer. lol Sorry for coming to this post late but holy **** Captian Crunch is here. I make holy scrine out of me oscar myers wiener whisle....

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I'm the nicest guy you'll meet....I'll buy ya a beer sometime :D

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Sweet...

I'll meet you at the Bell-In-Hand on Friday... :drink: ;)

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Obviously JP did something right to be mentioned in the book. I would feel honored if someone was to put my name in a book next to the words "most famous hacker" that is all I was saying. I give credit where it is due.

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I would not... I would laugh & if not that then be very offendid and as a response, slap someone in the face with my ****. You know that l33t h4x0r jazz people feed you people is just PR work... it is ways to make average computer related tasks seem more interesting than it really is. Their tactic is this, if you get into computers then you are no longer a web-developer, a networker, or even a computer enthusiast... instead from now on you'll be known as an "el33t h4x0r".

Its the same economic and media tactics that the folks who made poke'mon used. If you buy that, do this, read these, thats crap so trade it, collect those, so soon you too can be "t3h p0ke'm0n m4st3r". If someone where to say "greatist computer enthusiast" or "coolest & best PC jockie ever" or anything else of the sort then it would not get the same response as this bullshit.

So instead, since im am |THE| nicest dude here, I'll just give JP credit for being a fudge packer who makes and sells sites that are compairative to something from sesame street or what play doh' containers look like, you know color-wise and all. Ummm... with people shoved inside them :D.