hi
is there really harware firewalls????
and why the microsoft's website can't be breakin in to
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hi
is there really harware firewalls????
and why the microsoft's website can't be breakin in to
Rachid Abdallah -
I am not sure if this is just a joke or what but I will answer your questions. Although I feel this is just an attempt to advertise or something.
You bet your ass there is. Look around the site there are a ton of threads on this topic.Quote:
is there really harware firewalls????
I am not sure but I would say that, i feel that with enough time and effort any site can be broken into. You may not be able to erase all your tracks and get out of the server without being noticed but that doesn't mean you didn't gain entry.Quote:
and why the microsoft's website can't be breakin in to
- MilitantEidolon
Rachid
Well, that could be a matter of thought process I guess. The first being, put "hardware firewalls" into your favorite Internet search engine and you will see a multitude of different brand names of hardware firewalls.Quote:
is there really harware firewalls????
However, the second thought: isn't it just a dedicated appliance loaded with an OS that performs that function? Meaning that software is controlling the hardware firewall? ;)
cheers
Ah *pats his 3com*
Nice firewall
Hello???
*kicks the firewall*
Bloody thing has hung again!
*shakes the 3com*
Cannot connect.. cannot connect! - but the lights are green!
*fetches the sledgehammer*
What do you mean we've lost the firmware disk!
ARGHHHHHHHHHHH
And relax.... :D
A simple search on AO came up with this:http://www.antionline.com/search.php...by=&sortorder=
As to the second question...a bit borderline...but I'll let it pass:Every site's vulnerable really..getting inside's easier compared to getting out with all your tracks covered as MilitantEidolon pointed out..and Microsoft has it'ssites hacked all the time..dont think www.microsoft.com has ever taken a hit tho..here's the miracle of google:http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en...e+hacked&meta=
Hi,
What you refer to as a "hardware firewall" is frequently called a "router"...............most routers have hardware firewall capabilities as well as routing ones.
Microsoft have been compromised in the past, but they are a very large and powerful organisation...........not a good target I would have thought. They pay rewards for successful convictions of hackers.
It is a bit like hacking the FBI or the Lebanese secret police: it would provoke a very vigorous and unfavourable response :eek:
just a thought
Yes there are several companies that make hardware firewalls, as people have said. They can be a router, or a PC acting as a firewall/router. RedHat boxen are commonly used as firewalls. Check out www.sonicwall.com if you want a good example of the all the types available.
Microsoft may very well use a hardware level firewall, but they also run ISA (Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration) http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/
Cheers!
Very well put old friend, too bad I greened ya on that other thread. ;)Quote:
What you refer to as a "hardware firewall" is frequently called a "router"...............most routers have hardware firewall capabilities as well as routing ones.
MrCoffee: Yeah, I've worked with SonicWall before and I must say it's ease of use and simplicity (as far as hardware firewalls go, but then again I've barely worked with them so who knows) really catch me. Configuration isn't too shabby either.
And about the microsoft bit: Hacking a webpage (ANY webpage) isn't really the hard part. Getting out without being traced or traced onto some sort of log/not getting caught is the hard part. Anybody can run scans on a websites (aka fingerprint the website) and find exploits, ports open, etc and hack it from there. But doing so and not getting caught is the tricky part. By the way, I am in no way, shape, or form encouraging you to do this. It can/and probably will get you in trouble with the law and it is very unethical for you to use your knowledge for evil and malicious purposes.
Firewalls don't route, they inspect and pass data, they don't change the sending or destination address. Some routers do hiwever have firewall capacity.
Microsoft site cant be hacked??? LOL Its been a few times before. Basically any site can be hacked if you want to do it bad enough.
One little question:
What will you find in microsoft's website though? Well just to show your skills then I don't think it is good investment considering amount of time and money they can spend to trace you.
Thats all I can think :-)
?? What, are they gonna track you down with their $8.27 annual budget? ;)Quote:
the Lebanese secret police
Relyt was dead on with the "hardware firewall" as it is an incorrect term, to my knowledge there are no commercially availible hardcoded firewalls, just computers designed to run limited purpose operating systems with firewall software. (with enough effort any of these "hardware firewalls" could be used as a desktop system... hello qnx ;))
Why has www.microsoft.com not been hacked? Because there have been no exploits released in the last few years that would have compromised even an unpatched, properly configured Win2000/2003 systems... only those with lax procedures and policy compliance.
catch
Thank you for all the Answers
i asked this question becasue i heard that some of the biggest computer companies made a deal in the 1999 to make some thing called a secure computer that protect the computer using hardware firewalls and hardware security stuff
it sounded strange
I don't really care about getting traced
i live in lebanon man!!!
here we sell any CD for 1$ or less
and most of the stuff we do on net are internationally illegal
but no one cares here ..!!
Hey, when they cash my cheque that will triple :pQuote:
?? What, are they gonna track you down with their $8.27 annual budget?
Rachid, please ignore the humour................yes I recall what you are talking about, but this is at server level not your desk-top or home device.
I last visited your city in 1965 :D please keep it as I remember it
Cheers
sorry....... Salaam
Rachid Abdallah
It must have been a computer that was never intended to be turned on ;) The only truly secure computer is still in the Styrofoam, is not plugged into an outlet or even turned on. Additionally it must not have any software loaded and even the firmware could be buggy!Quote:
some of the biggest computer companies made a deal in the 1999 to make some thing called a secure computer
:)
BTW -- just a thought. Even if you did hack the microsoft site (assuming that you simply wanted to reck the site cause I doubt they store important info on the site or accessable by the site), they probably have several backup servers which could be switched for the hacked one relatively easily. As soon as they figured out they had been hacked they could get back online pretty damn quickly.
And I'm sure they have some sort of advanced logging techniques that are almost impossible to circumvent.
That all would make hacking the ms site almost pointless.
ac
i cant wait till the day when the "unhackable" computer ships out to users and companys world wide.....i heard they plan to deliver by means of flying pigs.....
Actually I am founding a company that deals with training and certifying flying pigs to deliver MicroSoft patches and secure computers to users worldwide, as part of MS's new campaign of educating the users. The flying pig comes at no cost for the customer, however in those countries where these pigs are at risk to be cut and barbequed a small levy charge will be imposed on the users [as MicroSoft did not want to assume any responsability - as per Bill's last e-mail to me].Quote:
Originally posted here by hexadecimal
i cant wait till the day when the "unhackable" computer ships out to users and companys world wide.....i heard they plan to deliver by means of flying pigs.....
As for HWFW I think getting a base Gentoo sustem [I'm biased] configured with both local security in mind and some advanced NAT/IP Masquerading rules does the trick just as well as let's say AlphaShield does [it cracks me up when I see the 100% unhackable sign on their boxes]. The operating principle is the same, just that companies have the possibility of producing these firewalls so that they occupy less space [such as a router, which although isn't a full-fledged firewall it has some pretty good security implementations].
Dont forget coated in 1.5 inches of duct tape. That will secure ANY box in the world ;)Quote:
It must have been a computer that was never intended to be turned on The only truly secure computer is still in the Styrofoam, is not plugged into an outlet or even turned on. Additionally it must not have any software loaded and even the firmware could be buggy!
Seriously dude you need to rethink your point of view on all this. People who build webpages, especialy big companies like microsoft, put alot of time and effort into creating their sites. why would you want to destroy that? What has the poor dipshit that has to fix that site after you demonstrate your 1337 h4x0r ski11z ever done to you?