If a malicious computer hacker like Kevin Mitnick were to break into my computer while using a stolen ISP account, would the phone company (or anyone) be able to trace the connection back to his address?
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If a malicious computer hacker like Kevin Mitnick were to break into my computer while using a stolen ISP account, would the phone company (or anyone) be able to trace the connection back to his address?
Hypothetically, yes. Given enough time and resources anyone/thing is tracable.
ISP or phone company(or govt. agency ) will be able to trace that address which he used when he hacked into your computer even if he used it for that much time only . so sirsub is right , address is traceable , person may not be :-)
Yes it is traceable. The thing is How important are you and would they take the time to trace it. Sometimes (from my past experiences) It seems that the companys dont really care tomuch about hackers. Other times they will follow though.
I don't understand why any hackers are caught at all If this was done from a hotel, there would be no way they could get caught.
Well they could trace it to the room, then the autohirties can call the hotel and see who was in there at that specific time !
Digitally, you're nowhere safe;)
But , he was using a fake ID!
Then he wouldn't have got the room in the first place. :DQuote:
But , he was using a fake ID!
nirvanist6 any thing can be traced no one cant be but their are things you can do to stop it like delting log files using a stolen isp account and using some one elses phone line or hacking from a pay phone you can connect to some ones phone line from right out side their house and do what yo uneed to do then they would track it their and you could live miles away or they could track it to a pay phone, not much help for them. these are some things you could do to keep from getting caught but most people who get caught or who you see in the news for doing a DOS attack on a big web site are mostaly scriptkiddies the other are just hackers who dident want to leave their comferts of home behind wile they have some fun hope this explaned it all for you.
How many open wireless networks are there in the world? 1 million, 2 million......... I could walk down the block 100ft and probably get on one. To be anonymous is pretty easy, even from the goverment.
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it like delting log files using a stolen isp account
Uhhh... yeah whatever.Quote:
or hacking from a pay phone
So many people out there, they pick up on computer related tasks just to be called something, what does all of this make you? :rolleyes:Quote:
these are some things you could do to keep from getting caught but most people who get caught or who you see in the news for doing a DOS attack on a big web site are mostaly scriptkiddies the other are just hackers who dident want to leave their comferts of home behind wile they have some fun hope this explaned it all for you.
not true....Ive had friends who hav gotten rooms with fake IDs.Quote:
I'm with lumpy on this one...I have quite a few wireless hotspots near my house...if I "REALLY" wanted to be annonymous...all I have to do is get in my car and drive across teh street.
Malicious? AFAIK he's been quite helpful to the security world lately. We've all been young and stupid at one time in our life. You can't call him malicious because of what he did back in the day, just call him by his name without an additions to it...Quote:
If a malicious computer hacker like Kevin Mitnick were to break into my computer while using a stolen ISP account, would the phone company (or anyone) be able to trace the connection back to his address?
You kids watch way too many movies....but as specialist said....uh whatever.Quote:
nirvanist6 any thing can be traced no one cant be but their are things you can do to stop it like delting log files using a stolen isp account and using some one elses phone line or hacking from a pay phone you can connect to some ones phone line from right out side their house and do what yo uneed to do then they would track it their and you could live miles away or they could track it to a pay phone, not much help for them. these are some things you could do to keep from getting caught but most people who get caught or who you see in the news for doing a DOS attack on a big web site are mostaly scriptkiddies the other are just hackers who dident want to leave their comferts of home behind wile they have some fun hope this explaned it all for you.
Look, the cold truth is that no1 gives a ****....IF you bring enough attention to yourself, you will get caught EVEN if you're hacking from a payphone....which is very hard to do anyways for you amateurs anyways, so dont get your hopes up zer0c00l. If you defaced your buddy's website, no1 is going to give a ****, expect that you might suffer a concusion when your buddy kicks your ass. If you deal more than $5000 in damage with your lack of talent in the world of hacking, then there's a chance you'll get caught.
What happens if i implant a trojan in the victim and connect to the victim from a remote location and hack into another system. Once the worker is over i can certain tools to corrupt his hard disk beyond repairable stage. There are open tools available like that.
no hard disk, no log entries to trace.
First off, if you connect to another computer and the hack from that computer, the computer you connected to to hack from is called a "Zombie", second of all, if you hack from the Zombie and then destroy its HDD, there are no logs on the computer anymore, but the computer doesnt have to keep log anyways, the ISP of zombie computer sure will, then you'd have to hack the ISP (probably very huge and secured) and delete their HDD's which are probably being backed up all the time, lesson is : You loose no matter what, stop suggesting stupid stuff you "could" do !Quote:
What happens if i implant a trojan in the victim and connect to the victim from a remote location and hack into another system. Once the worker is over i can certain tools to corrupt his hard disk beyond repairable stage. There are open tools available like that.
i worked in a phone company before and we didnt have a care of tracing it, we're just reporting in Fraud and they will tell their customer that they're going to investigate for it, but on the other hand, they are just going to put it into a report and do nothing about it, I agree, the phone company were just counting on how many anomalies are there right now, but they're not tracing it anyways...believe me
Not necessarily.....Mitnick was caught not by where he was calling from*easily forged* but by where the called terminated from.........so in essence of a script kiddy, yes you could catch him......but the smart ones don't get caught hence why you don't hear about them
What if I just pulled up your IP through the post that you just made, and I started to monitor you. What if I just installed a trojan on your computer, one that I just programed and which your AV will not catch. What if I programed my trojan to open all your ports and post your IP address to numerious Hacking groups. What If i'm also using your computer to surf for porn, and hack other computers through it, purpously leaving traces for them to find your computer.Quote:
What happens if i implant a trojan in the victim and connect to the victim from a remote location and hack into another system. Once the worker is over i can certain tools to corrupt his hard disk beyond repairable stage. There are open tools available like that.
no hard disk, no log entries to trace.
What if I was behind you right now, as you read this post, with a knife in my hand, waiting for you to turn your head so I can slice your throat? Sshhh, don't make a sound, and don't you dare look behind you! Thats right..keep reading....good boy....
What if....?
Hacking from a payphone? Whatever? It's not exactly hard to do , either with an acoustic coupler or by getting at the wires. Like RijilV said , you never heard about the best hackers.
/edit: Your post doesn't make any sense at all Kurt. Kamikaze it ? What do you mean ? Be careless?
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Greenbacks leave no tracks...
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I don't know if any of you have read the book "The Fugitive Game, Online with Kevin Mitnick" but i definitely recommend that any of you who haven't should pick up a copy. You learn that a lot of the stuff Kevin did, while definitely not ok. Were not anywhere near as bad as the press made them out to be. It has been proven that while in jail, he was kept in solitary confinement for prolonged amounts of time because people were afraid he would get to a pay phone and whistle missle launch codes to NORAD. A lot of the hype around Kevin Mitnick is extremely exaggerated. The author of this book kept contact with Kevin during most of the time that he was on the run so you really get a look into what Kevin was like.
Also, Tsutomo Shimomura (I hope I spelled that right!) The "cyber samurai" who is credited with helping to capture Kevin, could quite possibly have been just as much of a "black hat hacker" kevin. He publicly altered a cell phone to make it work as a reciever so he could drop in on other peoples calls. During the time in which in which Kevin was capture. Tsutomo also brought a long his friend, who was a reporter (John Markoff) which is not allowed. Both of them later denied it but one FBI agent said "At one point, the reporter even had a scanner in his hand, helping to try to locate Kevin"
As Cybr1d also stated, Kevin has been quite helpful to computer security lately and is a leading contact for many people in the security industry. He recently even wrote a great book called "The Art of Deception" which helps companies learn to defend against social engineering attacks.
I am not trying to say in any way that Kevin was innocent, but I think he was, and still is considered to be a lot worse than he really is.
Sure I have heard of them, they're my peons and I control them. Could you tell me at what year these "best Hackers" did their feats?Quote:
Hacking from a payphone? Whatever? It's not exactly hard to do , either with an acoustic coupler or by getting at the wires. Like RijilV said , you never heard about the best hackers.
/edit: Your post doesn't make any sense at all Kurt. Kamikaze it ? What do you mean ? Be careless?
You mean to tell me you've never heard of the great hacker called "Cybr1d"?