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I was watching this movie called "Hackers." Some of it seemed fake, like when they put these virses on these company computers, it made it do something to the phone. Like all of the lights flashed as if 10000 people where calling at the exact time. Nobody could use the phones. This seems fake! Is it, how could a virus do that? This question has been stumping me for a long time! Please help me!
I dont know if there are viruses that can jam the phone lines but i do know that the movie hackers is basically fake the systems admim in real life doesnt really see rabbits hopping on screen and eating the data things like that but one thing good about that movie is angelina jolie !!!!!
The movies is kind of fun to watch, but inaccurate as hell and not very realistic. Don't read too much out of it.
Well, although I do not focus on the "hacker" side of things I will take a stab at the question. I believe it is possible to create a "virus" like that. Maybe not that exact same way, but I know that there was a man who jammed all the telephone lines to a radio station so he could win a Porsche. So it is possible.
The movie is very inaccurate a good watch though.
- MilitantEidolon
It theory a virus could do that. Given the way communications work. The likelyhood of a virus that powerful are slim to none, but that doesn't mean it could never happen.
The movie itself I think its funny and yeah, way off, but I think the writer of the movie was very creative.
I wish all hackers looked that sexy *whistles* :rolleyes:
Didn't Kevin Mitnick do that to west or east Los Angeles (not sure if it is LA) to win a couple of grand on a radio competition or something !Quote:
but I know that there was a man who jammed all the telephone lines to a radio station so he could win a Porsche.
Copyright you might be talking about :
Kevin Poulsen, Ronald Austin and Justin Peterson who in the year 1993 were charged with conspiring to rig a radio phone-in competition to win prizes. The trio seized control of phone lines to the radio station ensuring only their calls got through. The group allegedly netter TWO PORSCHES, $20,000 IN CASH, AND HOLIDAYS IN HAWAII. ;)
Noo it was a book about Kevin Mitnick some girl and some other guy hacker.... i think the book is called CyberPhreak ! or CyberPunk .....
That book was written by the FBI team that caught him. As for the radio stations, there isn't a PBX in this city that isn't locked down with a strong password. :) Pretend your the water meter guy and have laptop ready. :D
people used to crash phones alot back in the day, its what hacking was. look into operation sundevil.
That's pretty much all their was back in the early 80s late 70s. No one had a pc, but everyone had a phone to phreak on, and a radio. There were data networks based on packet radio long before the internet, for example. All you needed in some cases was the correct tone sequence to initiate privy escalation using your phone or a modified box, red blue or whatever. :)
Hackers is a great movie. It was cheesy as hell, but great. It pointed out the clueless secret service agents who weren't grasping this whople technology thing, and believing every evil sys admin who got hacked and got pissed off because they didn't know what they were doing.
As for making a virus that took out the phones.... Hmmm, yes.
A worm that forced all slaves to call one number all at once comes to mind. It could either use a modem to do it, or be like the ... Was it Sasser that downloaded the worm via FTP? Anyway, it could download calling tools and use those, or like I said, just using the connection the PC has, and then be like a Logic Bomb, and on a certain date, at the same time, call a number. Just an example of course. I'm sure more ways exist.
Exactly. Back when that movie was made, they didn't have Broadband and all that ****. Dial-up was their main access to the internet. You could infect machines with a worm which would dial out a particular number...and if enough zombies call that number the lines can get pretty jammed :).Quote:
A worm that forced all slaves to call one number all at once comes to mind. It could either use a modem to do it, or be like the ... Was it Sasser that downloaded the worm via FTP? Anyway, it could download calling tools and use those, or like I said, just using the connection the PC has, and then be like a Logic Bomb, and on a certain date, at the same time, call a number. Just an example of course. I'm sure more ways exist.
I tried that with my fax for example. I didnt' know what the number was, so I had it call my cell phone and the caller ID showed me the number. I should try calling my cell phone through dialup one of these days :). Maybe I'll do it in a couple of hours.
EDIT: Just tried it, it pretty much works the same way as the fax. If you wanna check what the phone number of a line is, just have it dial your cell. Or u can just plug a phone and try it that way...dissapointed :(
Ahh, classical movie. Angelina Jolie's crowning achievement (aside from Lara Croft :D). However most if not all of the aspects of that movie were infact fake. The system admin in that movie (the plague dude) was funny as hell.
By the way, what does this have to do with programming security? (Sorry, just being a bastard) :D
It would've been 100x better if it didn't make unix look so gimpy. That along with that little girl in Jurassic Park saying "Unix...I know unix" and looking at everything through a digital city-esque panorama...those two had everyone asking me "WOW DUDE YOUR JOB ROOLZ!!!!!" and me looking for the nearest gun to shoot myself in the face repeatedly.
the movie was made for the "general audience" and not specifically for us. we have to understand that the producers want something that the mass could appreciate visually. even if they have to put all impossibilities in the movie. oh well, that's the way movies go. same reason jedi masters use lightsaber instead of steel swords and real-looking guns.
Actually, it’s not incorrect. The interface they show (edit: in Jurassic Park) is a real interface on some SGI IRIX Unix boxes, see:
http://www.sgi.com/fun/freeware/3d_navigator.html
http://www.slipups.com/items/2786.html
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107290/goofs
You have a good point there jetherson, most films have a degree of "poetic licence" yet have to retain a degree of plausibility and understandability amongst the general public.
Let's face it, if a lot of films were strictly accurate they would be pretty boring :D
how about wargames? now that was a classic hack movie....why bother with some company (like hackers) when you could hack something without knowing what it is and destory the world. That was the movie that began it all...for me anyway.
In the Realm of the Hackers
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and hackers 2 takedown
also good movies to watch ;)
as for hackers1 yes angelina made it good ;)
Bad thing about "Takedown" is that it is very far removed from the real events.
I thought AntiTrust wasn't too horribly technically inaccurate a movie. I was startled by it quite frankly, though the plot focused less on the computers, and more on the people involved.
The hackers 2 movie that circulated around a few years back i found was quite interesting... It was all about Mr. Mitnick, and well, I dont remember the whole movie plot (its been awhile) but if you havnt seen it im sure some of you might find it interesting,
Cheers
I'm thinking the system Hugh Jackman used in "Swordfish" to hack.... Dear Santa....
It's NOT Hackers 2. It's just Operation Take Down.
Anti-Trust was awesome by the way.
This really, truly, does NOT belong in this forum. It needs to be moved to gcc or noob questions.
I knew I wasn't the only one thinking this ;)Quote:
This really, truly, does NOT belong in this forum. It needs to be moved to gcc or noob questions.
Anyways, back on topic: Does anyone know if a Hackers 2 ever came out/is coming out?
I believe its Hackers 2 : operation takedown, and i've read somehwere that AntiTrust is considered hackers 3, not sure !Quote:
Does anyone know if a Hackers 2 ever came out/is coming out?
Ahh I see.. and I just saw gore posted that there isn't hackers 2, it's just operation takedown. :p Didn't see that. Anyways, making a third is kinda dumb IMO.