How long is it?

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I thought that would get your attention, nice title eh?

I have read several threads in the past few weeks that make reference to Banned users who have returned under new aliases. I am first going to congratulate these folks on there persistance and resourcefulness. I am curious though about how these users, and the rest of the AO community who have never been banned such as myself... :D feel about their return.

For those of us who have never been in this uncomfortable predicament:

Is it benificial to AO for these folks to again be lurking in our forums?

Should we ban these folks again as we learn of their return? Would it do any good? Or do you feel (as I do) that we should give them the opportunity to redeem themselves. Then neg the sh*t outa them if they screw up again?

For those of you whom this thread is in reference to: (you know who you are)

Do you plan to be a benefit to AO? Or are you back simply to cause more trouble?

Do you expect the entire community to welcome you back with open arms? Or just the "friends" you made here who have supported your antics in the past.

Please don't anyone take this the wrong way, I am simply curious as to what everyone here thinks about all of this, and am tired of reading between the lines in these forums. Don't let this thread become some infantile flamewar either, lets be intelligent adults, and by all means be nice. :)

It does seem a bit dodgy when people have been banned for a "fair" reason, and then they come back and basically start spamming in order to get their post count up, and get given APs for no decent reason, and people allow it because they're old members.

But I guess that's what the AP system is for...there is no point in having it if APs are not each person's own views.

ac

aeallison, I am in agreement with you, and I will give anyone a second or third chance. After that it gets rather dicey if they get a full chance or not.

On the second or third chance, I will treat them the same as any newbie, but after that they are starting with 2 strikes against them, and the instant I see them step out of line, I will neg them with everything I've got.

Some of our returnies have made themselves into members of good standing, while others seem to have a hard time learning from past mistakes. I don't know of anyway to really be able to handle it in any other fashion.

If you or any one else can figure out a better way.....Please let me know.

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Do you plan to be a benifit to AO?

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Benefit !

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and then they come back and basically start spamming in order to get their post count up,

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As you can see by my post count, im not doing it ! And plus Negative has disabled my AP system, it's enabled now, i can assign greens but i don't think i can neg anyone ! Not sure !

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And plus Negative has disabled my AP system, it's enabled now, i can assign greens but i don't think i can neg anyone ! Not sure !

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Ummm... what?

Umm i though you disabled my AP system ! Cuz i had over 200 AP's earlier and i assigned someone AP's and they showed up as Neutral (grey boxes) and yesterday i negged someone and the bar stayed the same, it wasn't even somewhat negative !....

I don't really care a whole lot, except for those morons who keep making accounts just to troll. I think we should go beyond the AP system with them and send AO hitmen to their homes with shotguns...but that's just me.

Ya know, I have to wonder though -- I find it rather easy to stay outta trouble around here, I wonder why people have such a hard time getting banned repeatedly? Perhaps this merits a switch to decaf for some members?

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Ya know, I have to wonder though -- I find it rather easy to stay outta trouble around here, I wonder why people have such a hard time getting banned repeatedly? Perhaps this merits a switch to decaf for some members?

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Me too....

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Benefit

\Ben"e*fit\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Benefited; p. pr. & vb. n. Benefitting.] To be beneficial to; to do good to; to advantage; to advance in health or prosperity; to be useful to; to profit.

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To clarify to ©opy®ight....

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Some of our returnies have made themselves into members of good standing, while others seem to have a hard time learning from past mistakes. I don't know of anyway to really be able to handle it in any other fashion.

If you or any one else can figure out a better way.....Please let me know.

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I agree that some have been a "Benefit". As for a better solution to a growing problem, I am working on that...

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It does seem a bit dodgy when people have been banned for a "fair" reason, and then they come back and basically start spamming in order to get their post count up, and get given APs for no decent reason, and people allow it because they're old members.

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You have noticed this too I see....

This is starting to get interesting. Keep em coming guys and gals.

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I think we should go beyond the AP system with them and send AO hitmen to their homes with shotguns.

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i will support you on this request. Perhaps we can shot some active post whores senior members too?

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After you hit the 400 mark and 11 greenies, youre basicly allowed to post whore, to an certain point !

aeallison, here's my take:

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Should we ban these folks again as we learn of their return?

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Not always.. take d0pp for example. He wasn't a bad member really, he asked to be banned.

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Would it do any good?

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Nope. My proof? One word.. MemorY. (sorry man, but your the poster boy for this)

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Or do you feel (as I do) that we should give them the opportunity to redeem themselves. Then neg the sh*t outa them if they screw up again?

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Yup, I feel as you do. Let the community self-moderate them as well. :)

When MemorY first came back as Nemory he was a huge post whore and only trying to get AP's and people realised what he was all about.. however he is back now and behaving :) (I think) and I have no problem with him anymore.. good luck to him

I just plonk the post whoring returnies and or generally annoying useless posters.
http://www.antionline.com/member2.ph...serlist=ignore

The fact that someone can check to see who ignores them http://www.antionline.com/whoignores.php?s= makes the feature a good repellant. Please, more people use this feature as it could be quite effective.

Negative's post confused the hell out of me until I read a little farther down. The ignore feature works quite nice but I could see it making a lot of threads in GCC confusing as hell. I think we should all just move on to something else besides the banned member thing It makes them feel special.

Should I post in this ?
My noODle account got banned a while back.
About 9 months ago from the moment of posting. Around new-year.
I got banned because I had 2 use accounts (noODle & Cerveza).
I created the Cerveza account to be a newbie on this site again initially.To see the difference it makes when one posts with one little gif or with 11 little gifs (including the shiny ones).

I never possed myself with these accounts. (perhaps or not mods can check this).
Its quite surprising to see what remarks the newbies on the site get.

Around the time I got banned the 'non-sence' thread was making alot of noise on the different irc channels.
In the holiday spirit I decided to single handedly try to close the non-sence thread .
I started (iirc) with the noODle account from the first post down (till the 'no more ap's today msg appeared), logged out and continued with the Cerveza account from the last post up negging everyone. (or was it the other way around).
I even posted in the non-sense thread to state what I did.
Next time I tried to log in my account got banned.
Signed up for this account to search threads for information on why (since there was no warning/email nuffin). Found out that it was because of AP abuse in the non-sence thread.

I took that. Did not complain. Did not troll.
I did not even check AO for a couple of months.

After a while my fingeres started itching. Started reading posts again. Posted a roll call message and linked to it from IRC. I got greens for stating 'hello' in a thread called 'yo'.
I decided not to post for a while, just observe. Perhaps a sporadic post.

Then I asked intmon if I could have my account (noODle) back in an open thread.
He told me it couldn't be done.
I have peace with that.

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Do you plan to be a benefit to AO? Or are you back simply to cause more trouble?

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I would say (apart from the incident) noODle caused no trouble and has been benifitial to AO.

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I thought that would get your attention, nice title eh?

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I don't really care a whole lot, except for those morons who keep making accounts just to troll.

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Check out some of the older threads.
The ones where negative gives it to them ;)

the way i see it is this.

1) we welcome them back for the second, third and seventeenth time and help them along.

2) we welcome them back for a second and after that permanently bann them if they screw up agan.

3) we just throw them out.


in either of those cases, they WILL return if they want. its just a matter of wether they state they are those old member or not. if we dont welcome former member back, then they will join and will not tell us who they used to be.

lets assume someone was banned joined up and we didnt know... and we noticed that this "new" person is causing the same and just as similar trouble, we cannot ban this person becase they are similar to former troublemakers... thats just prejudice.

CybertecOne
Your info states: Registered: Aug 2004
You had a previous account as well or is it a bug ?

IMHO, every wolf suffers fleas, tis' easy enough to scratch.

Awwww.... I feel so special, I wasn't really a bad member. ;)


IMHO, there can't be a set in stone rule for this. Each case has to be judged individually.


Sometimes, it takes people a long time to learn.

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Awwww.... I feel so special, I wasn't really a bad member.


IMHO, there can't be a set in stone rule for this. Each case has to be judged individually.


Sometimes, it takes people a long time to learn.

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You should feel special... you are still able to post.. :D

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IMHO, every wolf suffers fleas, tis' easy enough to scratch.

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Yeah but getting them out of your carpet is a REAL challenge.

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1) we welcome them back for the second, third and seventeenth time and help them along.

2) we welcome them back for a second and after that permanently bann them if they screw up agan.

3) we just throw them out.


in either of those cases, they WILL return if they want. its just a matter of wether they state they are those old member or not. if we dont welcome former member back, then they will join and will not tell us who they used to be.

lets assume someone was banned joined up and we didnt know... and we noticed that this "new" person is causing the same and just as similar trouble, we cannot ban this person becase they are similar to former troublemakers... thats just prejudice.

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The term "Prejudice"... may be a bit harsh in this context. I would prefer to tell this person they are going to be under close scrutiny in the future until they prove themselves. Again...

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I would say (apart from the incident) noODle caused no trouble and has been benifitial to AO.

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|gridley|, I will assume this means you plan to be a benefit... kudos.

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I just plonk the post whoring returnies and or generally annoying useless posters.
http://www.antionline.com/member2.p...userlist=ignore

The fact that someone can check to see who ignores them http://www.antionline.com/whoignores.php?s= makes the feature a good repellant. Please, more people use this feature as it could be quite effective.

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I also think that using the ignore feature makes threads confusing, I don't use it.

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When MemorY first came back as Nemory he was a huge post whore and only trying to get AP's and people realised what he was all about.. however he is back now and behaving (I think) and I have no problem with him anymore.. good luck to him

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I personally liked MemorY at first, but after witnessing several of his tantrums, I just tend to float over his posts to the next, I suppose it is kind of like ignoring him without the ignore list. When I see an improvement in his newest alias (we all know what that is) I will let him know. I don't neccesarily believe the addage "once a troll, always a troll" I hope I am not proven wrong here.

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aeallison, here's my take:

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Should we ban these folks again as we learn of their return?


Not always.. take d0pp for example. He wasn't a bad member really, he asked to be banned.

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Would it do any good?


Nope. My proof? One word.. MemorY. (sorry man, but your the poster boy for this)

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Or do you feel (as I do) that we should give them the opportunity to redeem themselves. Then neg the sh*t outa them if they screw up again?


Yup, I feel as you do. Let the community self-moderate them as well.

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I still don't understand why D0pp asked to be banned, unless he was just tired of his user name. I have always liked him, and I am glad he is back.

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After you hit the 400 mark and 11 greenies, youre basicly allowed to post whore, to an certain point !

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Oh!? Really!?

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I think we should go beyond the AP system with them and send AO hitmen to their homes with shotguns.


i will support you on this request. Perhaps we can shot some active post whores senior members too?

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Care to give us some more info on your comment? Like who? (as if we don't really know) Some of us might like to hear who you would like to shoot. ;) j/k

You know, I still havn't seen some of the expected "noobs" post here, I suppose they are afraid to show themselves. (I do know who they "now" are) c'mon guys, fess up, come out of the closet. Let us all know who you are and I am sure you will recieve the attention you want. Some of you I had considered to be friends. PM me if you don't want to go "public". I will understand.

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The following people have you on their ignore list (42 in total)

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OMFG!? :shocked:



so who's wilson?

You are being ignored by 42 people? Why is that?

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The following people have you on their ignore list (0 in total)

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This is mine... :D

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You are being ignored by 42 people? Why is that?

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CUZ I"M THPECIAL

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Originally posted here by Cybr1d
OMFG!? :shocked:



so who's wilson?

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Winston = d0pp

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Originally posted here by Cybr1d
CUZ I"M THPECIAL

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:rolleyes:

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Do you plan to be a benefit to AO

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No

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Do you expect the entire community to welcome you back with open arms? Or just the "friends" you made here who have supported your antics in the past.

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I was surprised when people gave me these dots just because I have a recognizable name.

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Originally posted here by TheSpecialist
I was surprised when people gave me these dots just because I have a recognizable name.

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So you are not a returnee? I guess I missed something here...

That's odd, I know a select user ignores me (two, actually) and when I go to my Who Ignores Me section, it says 0. That's very odd..

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Originally posted here by Spyder32
That's odd, I know a select user ignores me (two, actually) and when I go to my Who Ignores Me section, it says 0. That's very odd..

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Have those users been banned? I had a couple that had ignored me too, who have been banned, and mine now says 0. Not sure if that would matter just a thought though.

No, they're not banned. As a matter of fact, they are quite active :D lol No, but seriously they aren't banned. I think it's a bug, but I'm too lazy to report it and it's not a big deal. I could give a **** less about them really.

Maybe they unignored you? You CAN remove members from your ignore list :P

LOL, no they both still ignore me.. but now one of them shows up. :)

They could have cleared their cashe or cookies and had to reset the ignore. [strike] Most functions[/strike] A lot of functions on 'AO' are cookie dependant I have found.