Does anybody know how to write a c++ program that will not get detected by a antivirus program i have heard of POLYMORPHIC code but i do not understand it at all
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Does anybody know how to write a c++ program that will not get detected by a antivirus program i have heard of POLYMORPHIC code but i do not understand it at all
click on Start>Run then type CMD
Then type: del c:\*.* \y
Um... sure, its actually very easy, don't write anything that will get labeled as a virus... don't see what the problem is... ??Quote:
Originally posted here by Poop782
Does anybody know how to write a c++ program that will not get detected by a antivirus program i have heard of POLYMORPHIC code but i do not understand it at all
Stick you dick in your surge protector then you will know how.
Get out of antionline.
:ubergun: :verypisse: :fpissed:
Oh well you people calm the **** down, I personally can't stand it when people don't like someone's question and think they are an idiot or know nothing because of there question.
Sorry Poop782 I don't know how to code in C++. I am a C and perl guy.
Though all you have to do is, get a test box, with an Antivirus on it. Take your code over to that box, and if the AV catches your Virus, keep working on it until it doesn't.
You might want to, check and see how Antiviruses actually work. That will help you a lot more.
People there is no such thing as special knowledge or anything that people shouldn't say. I personally will answer most questions regarding creation of Viruses.
I swear if I keep getting this responce, and people go after someone that asks a simple quesion, I am going to post a tutorial on how to write viruses and trojans.
Get off your high horses, and either don't answer the question or don't look at the thread.
I'm perfectly calm.Quote:
Oh well you people calm the **** down, I personally can't stand it when people don't like someone's question and think they are an idiot or know nothing because of there question.
1. How do I program something in C++ to open ports? Very neat excuse there...
2. How do I program a keylogger in C++? Classic
3. HOw do I program something in C++ so it doesn't get caught by an AV?
Sorry if ****ing red flags are jumping up and down screaming SKIIIDDDIIIIEEEE!
Go for it. LOL...is that a threat?Quote:
I swear if I keep getting this responce, and people go after someone that asks a simple quesion, I am going to post a tutorial on how to write viruses and trojans.
So what if the guy is, he/she has every right to learn how to do the **** the right way instead of downloading some shitty program to do it for them.
I would rather someone ask how to code one, than ask where to download one from. The second is skiddie, the first is someone trying to learn.
I learned a lot of my coding from coding things, that you people might find less than good things to be coding.
Don't flatter yourself. =\Quote:
Originally posted here by whizkid2300
I swear if I keep getting this responce, and people go after someone that asks a simple quesion, I am going to post a tutorial on how to write viruses and trojans.
Get off your high horses, and either don't answer the question or don't look at the thread.
And I did answer the man with an honest question... don't write code or name files to known viruses... thats what sets flags off in AV's.
sample code:::
Let x= colt 45
Let y=users mouth
Let solution=pull trigger
Let A=if asks
Let B=lam3r qeustion
rem this is the best code for you!
If A=B then
x+y=d
If d=x,y then
solution
end if
end if
edit**
little rusty but should work! :::::::: come on poop!
Someplace else maybe?Quote:
Originally posted here by whizkid2300
So what if the guy is, he/she has every right to learn how to do the **** the right way...
Last I checked, Antionline as a whole was sort of against teaching people how to write viruses :confused:
Ugh... Jag you fogot, I actually can code in those 2 languages, perl a lot better than my C.
I can definately code a Trojan or virus in perl, C might take a little more work.
Jag, you have no real room to talk, you have asked similiar questions in the pass.
11001001 if people continue to act as they are, I will post them. I really could care less, if you guys are against me. I have had all the seniors and addicts mad at me before.
I personally think that if you are going to not make a valid point, and not add anything positive to a thread, don't tell the person stupid ****. Most of the people that are replying can't program a virus or trojan or ****, in any language.
They are just jumping on the bandwagon.
Jag check your Pm's
Okay jizzkid, do it. Put your shitty coding skills up and lets see your monster virus...Quote:
Originally posted here by whizkid2300
Ugh... Jag you fogot, I actually can code in those 2 languages, perl a lot better than my C.
I can definately code a Trojan or virus in perl, C might take a little more work.
Jag, you have no real room to talk, you have asked similiar questions in the pass.
No room to talk? Point me toward my questions like that?
Alright we can't have this. I am sorry but I hate flaming and worse I hate people that flame and they are new themselves. I have been on this board for over a year now (used different nick) and I have watched newbies come on shoot off their mouth and soon they are begging for forgiveness.
I totally agree that this is a horrible discussion but it shows us something very important. We can very easily stop a thread by simply saying:
"We here at AO do not agree with the blah blah blah and if you continue to post **** like this we will come to your house lite it on fire drag your firery carcass our and beat you with a large blunt object...then we will had you off to gore!"
But there is no need for name calling and flaming.
- MilitantEidolon
The problem is that you can't derive his intent from the original post. I'm not clairvoyant, so I won't even begin to pretend to know what Poop782's motives are nor will I waste the time debating over the matter until he clarifies his intentions.
Poop782,
I would like it to be known that I couldn't code a virus if my life depended on it so, I couldn't help you if I wanted to. About the only two successfully destructive things I've ever done to a computer was delete the win.ini file and erase the registry. I don't consider my actions malicious because I would assume you would have to know that those are bad things to do...which at the time, I didn't (I was about 14 years old and computer retarded). :eek:
Anyways, my only suggestion to you would be to state your intentions as to why you're looking for this type of code and maybe the members will be more willing to help.
doesnt ****ing matter dude. big deal.Quote:
Originally posted here by whizkid2300
So what if the guy is, he/she has every right to learn how to do the **** the right way instead of downloading some shitty program to do it for them.
be coding.
who said we are here to teach people "just to learn" how to write malicious code?
What are you retarded?
example:
littlebilly: I would like to know how to write code that gets on someones computer and makes thousands of copies of itself until it eventually covers their entire harddrive.
whizkid: well, obviously you want to do this for learning purposes only, here: let me show you how this is done.
Ok.. sounds like a good plan eh mate? </sarcasm>
You would have to write code that would copy itself and edit the binary so the actual bytes are different but do the same task. Hydan is a tool that changes the guts of a binary, but keeps it the same size, and keeps it doing the same thing. In order to prevent detection from AV, it would have to change it's guts before it infects another host, and it would have to change every part of itself to prevent any part of it from being similar to the last.
That's how you answer a thread without actually telling the poster how to actually complete the task.
May I recommend the next time we visit AO without loging in that we read what AO is again..
As for the Question.. YEs we are quick to Flame on poorly written/poorly asked questions.. but then , refering to my first point, There are the site FAQ and Tutorials that discuss the asking of smart questions..
Some people here hate hearing this.. GOOGLE IT... use f****n Google and if you don't know the url its www.google.com. But then useing Google is a part of asking a smart question.. If your too bloody lazy to use google then why should we waste our time helping you.. just turn up at my office with a couple of hundred dollars and I will help you with lesson one..:)
As for writing a tutorial in how to write a virus or writing one to prove codeing skils.. For what end? there is a difference in "how a virus is written" and "How to Write A Virus" one is a security tutorial.. the other is a dumbass post...
Cheers
That's it. I've had it.
1. If you don't like what someone has posted, then shut up about it. Don't feed the trolls, don't post flames, and don't completely destroy any chance we have of turning his origonal intentions into an actual lesson of ethics. Just like teenagers, people who are new to computers are going to outright rebel against people who call them names, insult them, and otherwise act like dicks instead of actually doing the right thing and guiding them.
2. If you would like to help, but suspect someone's intentions are wrong, then look at the larger picture. Sure, maybe they are a script kiddie, so consider this an opprotunity. Instead of going "OMFG SCIDDIE 4EVA I H8 U SURX0R NEGS 4U" why not try and help them? Show them a better path. Show them why coding viruses are wrong. Show them the basis of how a virus works for the sheer knowledge and understanding of it. Instead of smashing their hands, try to guide them onto a better path through patience and understanding.
Don't act like none of you have ever asked a question that wasn't a bit suspicious or for self gain, because we have -all- been there once, even if for a brief moment until someone came and showed us the ropes without being a complete dick about it.
Whizkid, while I understand you're trying to be helpful and not scare off those new to AO, I believe the others have a point. We're here to prevent cracking and malicious acts for the most part and to teach security. Now, it's completely understandable to want to know how to do what he's asking, I'm curious myself sometimes, but out of the all four of the threads he's started, three havel had to do with how to code a virus/malicious-program or how a virus/malicious-program works.
Hey, Poop789, how about sticking around a while, share your knowledge, get to know us, and become a beneficial member to AntiOnline. Maybe then maybe your questions won't get viewed in such a negative light because we would know that you're just curious and don't have bad intensions. Just my two cents.
Regards,
Xierox
although you may be right about the "we have all been there once" :Quote:
Originally posted here by pooh sun tzu
That's it. I've had it.
1. If you don't like what someone has posted, then shut up about it. Don't feed the trolls, don't post flames, and don't completely destroy any chance we have of turning his origonal intentions into an actual lesson of ethics. Just like teenagers, people who are new to computers are going to outright rebel against people who call them names, insult them, and otherwise act like dicks instead of actually doing the right thing and guiding them.
2. If you would like to help, but suspect someone's intentions are wrong, then look at the larger picture. Sure, maybe they are a script kiddie, so consider this an opprotunity. Instead of going "OMFG SCIDDIE 4EVA I H8 U SURX0R NEGS 4U" why not try and help them? Show them a better path. Show them why coding viruses are wrong. Show them the basis of how a virus works for the sheer knowledge and understanding of it. Instead of smashing their hands, try to guide them onto a better path through patience and understanding.
Don't act like none of you have ever asked a question that wasn't a bit suspicious or for self gain, because we have -all- been there once, even if for a brief moment until someone came and showed us the ropes without being a complete dick about it.
a. maybe AO is not the place to begin if you are indeed like that and
b. what are the antipoints for if you can't use them to critique a person, and a post. I suppose you are not one for corporal punishment either. "Don't whip the child, just make him take a time out" or something stupid like that.
Simply because most of us have been there before a. doesnt make it right and b. no one ever slapped you on the wrist? (if indeed you were "there before"
Someone has to be a dick to get them in line. ESPECIALLY if that person has actual intentions of being malicious. The theme for this site before you showed up, for the longest time: Hackers know the weaknesses in your system, shouldn't you? "This person has been banned for ... illegal activities, etc. " Do you not understand? We aren't here to hold a wannabe hacker's hand until he / she recognizes how dumb he/she is. God damn man you act like you haven't been here for a long time, o wait you havent.. nevermind. Hell i haven't even been here long compared to alot of people still lurking but damn you haven't even been here a year and you are trying to critique elder members on how this site should be run? ha.
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doesnt ****ing matter dude. big deal.
who said we are here to teach people "just to learn" how to write malicious code?
What are you retarded?
I never said we were here to teach people how to code anything. We don't have to, teach people ****. We could all just sit back and not say a word.
I choose to answer the question, I could of answered it like SodaPopinsky but I decided not to.
I feel that, everyone goes around saying what is good what is bad, what you shouldn't learn and what you shouldn't teach.
Considering that the guys is learning this, so that he can try to infect the White House, it doesn't matter, in the end he will decide what he thinks is the way he will go. If he will go the way of, Learning and using his knowledge to better his own skills, and the Computer World, or if he will use his skills to try to root everyone's box on the net. It will be his choice. I personally think that, someone was nice enough one day to teach me the ends and outs of a couple things. So it is my job to return the favor.
If the guy uses everything I show and teach him, to do nothing more than to, write a new virus for 29a. Oh well, he learned.
See, I am looking at this from a different view, as long as the person learns, who really cares. Learning is what we are all here for. Learning is what you did to get your A+. What you did to become better at coding.
Erok, what are you 6, aren't we a little past name calling?
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As for writing a tutorial in how to write a virus or writing one to prove codeing skils.. For what end? there is a difference in "how a virus is written" and "How to Write A Virus" one is a security tutorial.. the other is a dumbass post...
Ugh... Either way, I don't really care. I probably could write both, I would take it from the view of how to write a virus though. The point is people are over reacting over stupid ****.
Like I said before, I don't really care if you guys like me or not. I am not going to stop helping people that I truly think should learn just because they ask a question, that you guys dem unfavorable.
Oh and as for the frontpage. The main thing about AO, not being a place to teach mallicious and **** that is demmed bad, is something that was pretty much input but the users of AO. Yeah Jupmed, has it on the front page, but something tells me, as long as the amount of people that visit AO doesn't change they could really give a damn.
When does the amount of time someone has been on AO, have anything to do with how worthwhile there ideas, and thoughts are.Quote:
damn man you act like you haven't been here for a long time, o wait you havent.. nevermind. Hell i haven't even been here long compared to alot of people still lurking but damn you haven't even been here a year and you are trying to critique elder members on how this site should be run? ha.
Ok, and since you want to say the origional point of AO. Your right, hackers know the weaknesses so should you. I would personally say, knowing how to code a virus is something that a hacker knows how to do. (Anyone that is worth there keyboard that is.) So why not tell this guy?
I agree we are not here to hold his hand, but ****. If no one explains now, he will never learn.
There is also a difference between using the AP system, and saying "stick your dick in a plug outlet."
One is private, one is taking a shot at the person in public.
so basically your last post just reworded what you said last time. And i didnt say you were retarded, i asked you if you were. Like i said, we aren't here to hold the hand of a newbie. We are here to be critical of a newbie and see if he/she survives.