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[glowpurple][glowpurple]SP2, YES OR NO ?[/glowpurple][/glowpurple]
Hi there fellow members
I have SP1 with all neccesary updates. I play a few games online such as Americas Amry ops and other games through steam? I have downloaded sp2 but don't know whether to install it over my working sp1. Can anyone that has installed it give me some advice on how sp2 differs from sp1. Any advice will be appreciated.
Thanks
Cider
Installing SP2 over SP1 is the only possible way to install SP2. As for differences between the two, SP1 was kernel security updates as is SP2. But as well as securtiy tweaks, SP2 comes with some new features (IE pop-up blocker, and a new 'security center', more Windows firewall options, and etc).
Summary: Much of it is changing behind the scenes files and trying to make XP more secure with a little bit of glitziness.
The only issue I have had with SP2 on XP PRO was with an Acer Laptop...where the SP knocked out the printer driver and sound card.....although I have only done 2 XP updates to date (most machines are 2K)
I just had to reinstall them and it was all fixed.
MLF
Running SP2 on a Presario 2585 with no problems to date. The Windows firewall also reports when my AV (Avant!) needs to be updated which is nice.
I done around 40 installation of XP 2.. I have found little problem. A few stupid application here and here that has bug... On my home computer, it broke nothing.
I've run the SP2 update on work and home. The home system (PIII 1.03, 1GB RAM) took the update well. My Symantec AV and firewall were not recognized immediately after the reboot, but they started their own updates right away and everything was fine. You will want to remember to turn off the built-in firewall(EDIT: if you are using a third party firewall). Then you want to go back out to the Microsoft site to check for updated drivers and such.
We are pushing the service pack down at work from our own SUS server. So we schedule and monitor the update. The default firewall configuration is our main problem. While Active Directory can be set to keep the local firewall open in the domain, that doesn't aways get to the updated machine. We then have to go to manually finish up the system.
I'm pretty sure that is not true, as I seem to recall having installed SP2 without SP1 quite recently.Quote:
Mm.. maybe not, but AFAIK when it came out, SP1 was a prerequisite, I'm trying to find some documentation of it but no luck. =\... have you tried and been successfull with SP2 w/o SP1?
Yes. Just a few days ago on a clients computer.
Cool then, I stand corrected. =)
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Think I know why I thought one might need SP1 for SP2... because the RC's needed them I'm pretty sure.. but anyway, yeah, SP2 has all the files and updates SP1 had so no need for it.
You can install SP2 without SP1... I did a customizes CD where I took Windows XP i386 folder and copy it on my hard drive.. Then I install SP2 directly on the i386 folder with the command 'XPSP2.EXE /integrate:X:\i386'
well i ve a problem in sp 2, when ever i conect to inter net the sp 2 tryies to connect to the net and updates it self automatically , i don'yt want this to happpen ( i use a a dial up) i ve tried all in my might but i cannot stop it , any ideas guys.
yourdeadin: Is your machine connecting to the Windows Update page? If it is, then disable automatic updates.
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Installing SP2 over SP1 is the only possible way to install SP2
I too recall seeing something on one of the M$ pages that indicated that SP1 was required which confused me, but that’s easy to do :confused: ( no, the page does not appear to be active right now )Quote:
Mm.. maybe not, but AFAIK when it came out, SP1 was a prerequisite
To reenforce what Irongeek started, from List of fixes included in Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 811113 )Only problem I had so far was one computer with Zone Alarm and PC-cillin PC-cillin Internet Security . When latest PC-cillin was installed it did not like ZA 5.0 and would not co-exist, so ZA 4.5 was in use. ZA 4.5 does not do well with SP2. But true to form, ZA came out with 5.1.011 which seems to do well with both ( firewalls turned off of both XP and Pc-Cillin to use ZA on this particular machine )Quote:
Service packs are cumulative. This means that the problems that are fixed in a service pack are also fixed in later service packs. For example, Windows XP SP2 contains all the fixes that are included in Windows XP Service Pack 1 (SP1). You do not have to install an earlier service pack before you install Windows XP SP2.
hey im a home user running SP2 on XP pro and so far i havent had any problems at all... ( surprisingly!) so that is just my 2 cents worth.
XP SP2 went fine... I carry it around on a "512 meg Stick"
Also you do not need SP1 to install it on a box....
I have done about 40 of them.... so far only problem
has been some issues when doing it remotly,
nothing that could not be delt with........
So far SP2 boxes have almost 40 megs
of additional updates... I wish they would added it in
to the SP2 package.....
I would recommend installing sp2. Ive installed it. It wiped out a few things i had installed like Style XP, But im sure if i wanted to i could just install it again. Also the Firewall feature is pretty nice. And it comes with a new windows media player.
Cheers
Kryptonic
I just updated another machine were the lan fax driver reboot an xp pro machine.
( my first XP crash to the point of a spontanious reboot :eek: )
Lan Fax vendor has an new driver.....
Updated the driver and all is good.
I have seen this with previous MS OSes and new SPs
Knocks out other apps and devices
I can usually fix them by reinstalling the app, driver, both, vendor and MS hotfixes...
Its all good...keeps me working :)
Thanks MS
MLF
SP2 pretty much only updates the firewall and adds a pop up blocker. Be careful though, Ive heard if you dont have a legitimate copy of XP, it can lock you out of your own system.
Tenny
From the last MS Security couse I attended they were saying that the XP SP2 was going to replace most of the .dll files....
I believe due to the MS Office Suite update also which "guards" against the new jpg flaw
which in turn need to work with the OS
Correct me if I am wrong
This would be more then just the firewall and pop up blocker...
IMHO ;)
MLF
well don't you think that after installing sp 2 my computer seems to get a bit faster at start up's and shut down's ,any one having the same effect?
Here is a brief list of updates items:Quote:
SP2 pretty much only updates the firewall and adds a pop up blocker. Be careful though, Ive heard if you dont have a legitimate copy of XP, it can lock you out of your own system.
1. .dll files have been recompiled to take more advantage of 686 and 64bit processors
2. .dll files now have security buffer checks built into their code, and additional code to handle those checks on a processor level if the processor supports it on your computer.
3. key windows system files have the same two features as above
4. Massive amounts (last I checked, over 200+) of security fixes placed across the OS itself, including a good amount of them on the kernel level
5. Rewrite of certain parts of the kernel to optimize the buffer checking as well as secure itself against possible Stack crashes, and the implimentation of heavy memory permission checkings.
Sooo much more is in this SP than just the firewall. Just go to google and look for: sp2 whitepaper