Eugene Armstrong

This is absolutely horrific and I do not recommend anyone watch it ... but this is the video that was release by the islamic terrorists on the beheading of Eugene Armstrong ... it is disgusting..

It does show however what extremes these people will go to and how they have no regard what so ever for westerners lives.. When we go to war we obey conventions like the Geneva convention etc. Because at least our governments have respect for life and realise noone deserves to be tortured.

the article

http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive...-beheading.htm

the video

http://216.117.171.171/video/amraky.wmv

Once again I do not recommend watching it .. I have only posted the link for those who are interested so they can see just how sick these people are

i dont need to see the vidio thank you.

its not just the lives of westerners they have no respect fot last week they beheaded a bunch of kurdish workers. a few weeks before they shot a bunch of hindu's in the back and let their body's fall into an open ditch. very reminisant of third reich's tactics. they have no respect for life at all! do they really expect these acts will make us feel that we should turn the fate of an entire nation over to the likes of them? personally it just makes me wish i could wash my hands with their blood. but unfortunatly for me our governments would never allow this.

God bless him as well as the other American who was beheaded today and every other victim of the inhuman actions by these terrorists... I wish their families the best and hope that one day they will reunite in heaven.

Amen

It just builds up hate for them. I agree with you Tedob1 they have no respect for life at all. They just do see it the same way we do tho. I can't understand them. And terrorists like that deserve to die.

I just wanted to point out that they are doing right by them and their religion.

i am NOT supporting them, and i have no objections to any action taken against terrorists, and i know its true, they are inhumane, savage, and pretty much dont give a crap about anyone but themselves.

Your view in the way that they have no respect for life etc, is wrong. as i said they are doing right by them and their religion. just because of what it entails isnt desirable - but to them the christian religion might look just as silly. (no offence intended) im sure most christians out there follow the bible, and believe in certain acts and execute them. ie, church. its just not as bad as their religion.,

i just want to point out that i am NOT defending them or supporting anything they do.(in fact i hate them just as much as anyone else does) i just thought that most people would have been progammed to hate and discriminate against terrorists automatically as thats the general light they are in. but yea, as ive said.

Peace

CTO

Hmm, maybe they are repaying us for the prison beatings/tortures? Ever think of that?

I agree they are doing what they think is right, however .. terrorism is not the answer .. and it is wrong. There are much more diplomatic ways to get things done... Terrorism like the beheading of Eugene Armstrong is wrong and cannot be justified

while they are doing what "they" may think is right, i do believe they have stopped thinking. it is no more following the teaching of islam any more than the crusaders were following the teachings of jesus. they are executing fellow muslims. a definate no-no. albiet of different sects but that's like southern baptists thinking its ok to kill northern baptists. they are no more than mad dogs that need to be eradicated for the good of the entire world.

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Hmm, maybe they are repaying us for the prison beatings/tortures? Ever think of that?

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Are you being sarcasting or serious?

Another thought on the topic one of my friends just told me was how he believes President Bush should stand up and say to the people of Iraq basically how they have to help the people of America to help themselves and if they do not help them hunt out the terrorists (because someone must know something of like the whereabouts these people get taken etc) then he will pick up everything.. the military and all civillian aid and leave the country and not let anyone back in .. whether it be civillian aid or military or anyone. That way just let the terrorists kill themselves and eriadicate themselves from the earth. And if the country goes to **** it is their own fault.

It would be a better world without them anyway

Any thoughts on this post???

fyrewall, then the US should never have invaded iraq in the first place .. ..

how about that ?

Maybe if everyone and their freaking mom did not pass around the video's of these beheadings and the major news networks did not publice these beheading's it would not happen as much. They are glorified because they now shown to everyone in the world and although americans are pissed think about all those sympathetic people in the Middle East who watch those video's and go F the Americans we are showing them!

I agree with Jarrod-

These terrorists know damn well that the US won't negotiate with them, or give in to their demands. They are doing this simply to get the coverage to convey whatever message it is they are trying to convey.

Well we went in there trying to help and done as much as we can .. getting rid of saddam etc .. if they dont want to start helping .. maybe it is time to leave and let the country sort itself out.. it will never get any better.

Terrorists should not get away with acts of terror tho and the US cannot be seen to give in to these people

Then again you cant very well go into a country and change it completely and then just leave. the country wont know how to deal with the change

Everyone of these beheadings is ONE ritualistic and TWO death worshipping. They are in essence a cult that sacrifices humans to god. They show the videos not that much anymore in America. Name me one major network that aired it? They show it in muslim countries to incite the radicals and give them a taste of western blood and scare others into protecting them.

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Originally posted here by RoadClosed
Name me one major network that aired it? They show it in muslim countries to incite the radicals and give them a taste of western blood and scare others into protecting them.

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You are right about this. I dont think many (if any) news organizations would air the video (at least in America) however, snip this in the bud, put it on the back page where noone looks and they will at least get less attention and a smaller crowd. I think that they are doing this for the reasons that you mentioned above, but they are also doing it because news orgs will report on it because there is loss of life in an inhumane way. Or how about using all this technology we have been spending billions on every year and find a way to block these satellites that are broadcasting these videos.

You are talking global censorship...

And airing something isn't cause for knocking one out of the sky either. They would just beam it to another one. Would have to knock out the ground station and there are several. Not to mention it could be back up in a day or two assuming their encryption devices are kept in escrow somewhere.

You know that some time ago the interim government in Iraq stopped airing Al Jazeera, and they have taken the matter to court.

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Originally posted here by RoadClosed
You are talking global censorship...

And airing something isn't cause for knocking one out of the sky either. They would just beam it to another one. Would have to knock out the ground station and there are several. Not to mention it could be back up in a day or two assuming their encryption devices are kept in escrow somewhere.

You know that some time ago the interim government in Iraq stopped airing Al Jazeera, and they have taken the matter to court.

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I know it would be censorship. (I am not really down for that) It was mainly a pissed off rant. Perhaps legally pursuing the Al Jazeera would be a better cause, but its just incredible to me that these people can broadcast it without a second thought.

Humm so how is hacking off someone head with a kinfe worse then shooting someone in the head..or indiscriminatly bombing residential areas?

a bullet is designed to kill the person with the least amount of suffering possible and quickly .. hacking someones head off? is not exactly "qucik and easy" so to speak. Bombing resedential areas .. you don't even know who/how many or what you are going to injure/kill if you bomb a resedential area.

The difference is pleasure.

What's the difference between pointing an M16 at someone and telling them masturbate and just chopping their head off? One is less embarassing and causes less emotional pain, and avoids the beating afterwards. Which would you like?

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What's the difference between pointing an M16 at someone and telling them masturbate and just chopping their head off? One is less embarassing and causes less emotional pain, and avoids the beating afterwards. Which would you like?

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I'd rather masturbate, and live rather than get my head chopped off like an animal. Which would u like GRUNT? If you do not see the difference, then you're an idiot, plain and simple.

Masturbating in front of someone and then copping **** over it .. or have your head hacked off on international tv for all your loved ones too see

to break it down simpler
one lives
one dies

which would you rather be?

the point taken by grunt is doing that (point m16) is not properly an act of civilized ppl. So if you humiliate your enemies they will hit back. and stronger.
i think that guys (the beheading the poor man) should be hanged. BUT

they are using the best tools to fight against their enemy (USA). MEDIA! "propaganda" was and it allways be on the ways to win a war. When they do that, they bring so much angry to the remaining (inoccent) ppl there so everyone will want to attack (and kill) a musslim. And doing that, they will get more ppl (inoccent musslim) on their army.

i wont never agree with terrorism. its a kind of unfair war. war should be between armies only.
i wont never agree with torture. Its not civilized, even against guys that had tortured, behead or violate other ppl. You can payback with the same tatics. doing that, you give ammo to them.

I just feel very sorry by eugene and other people got by this war and had a death so horrible like that. No one deserves that.

we need to go back to more civilized times..
when war was just two armies standing acroos eachother on a field..
and shooting back and forth..

but hey, it'll never happen..

this kind of warfare is the only kind they know how to (and have the opportunity to)
what to do about that ?
how can you make it more ballanced..

give the muslim fundamentalists better arms ;)

The difference is, the guy your shooting with an M16 is shooting you. Mistakes will be made and they sadden us. But in the end you hope you are getting a combatant that wants to kill you and you beat him or her to the punch. UNLIKE a death cult that films people ahead of time with hands tied CRYING and Pleading with them and the world to not kill them. These guys in Orange Jumpsuits are PICKED off the street where there is no fighting. They are stolen from their homes while there to perform RED CROSS or UNTIED NATIONS duties or BUILD A SCHOOL. They aren't holding guns or standing around a CAR to protect those inside. THEN, they are paraded around in a RITUAL and not shot; nope their throats are cut while they try to gurgle out a HELP that will never come and cry while there ****ing neck is hacked at. It's not a nice clean cut with a sharp axe. So that is what I see. And these guys don't deserve the word Insurgent or Rebel or Terrorist. They are Religious Death Cults who kill for pleasure. In another time they would be Nazi SS or the Elite inquisitors of Tacamado. And there are those who look at them and think they are justified because we removed a single man from his palaces and power. They CHOSE the “opportunity” to enact their ceremony and take up arms against humanity