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I'd like to put up a vote on Thread AntiPoints in Cosmos. The question is simple: Do you think Thread AntiPoints should be allowed in Cosmos?
I'm sticking with the "no personal AntiPoints in Cosmos", but it might be a good idea to allow users to assign AntiPoints to threads. Any thoughts?
I'm going to set this poll to expire in 5 days, and whatever option wins is how it's going to be.
I don't see anything wrong with APs being assigned in cosmos. I like to be able to award pos APs when a user adds something useful or interesting to my threads, I also like to have the option to neg someone who does NOT add anything useful and clogs the thread with nonsense.
Just my 2 cents.
PS... yes a lot of the time the thread is nonsense to start with, in this case I tend to simply ignore it. ;)
As long as threads don't get hit (pos or neg) for political opinions it doesn't bother me.
i think you can assign AP on cosmos and **** chat, but they should dont count for the AP system. Maybe just to kill threads. this is sec forum and "other" forums doenst matter
That's the entire point, cacosapo: with Thread AntiPoints in Cosmos, people could indeed kill threads, but nobody's AP total would change.
Here's my problem with this, so correct me if my understanding is off the mark:
APs are supposed to reflect the poster's knowledge/skill, right (not that they do, they should)? That's why we tend to encourage APs for technical posts and not GCC or Cosmos.
However, the above two arguments seem to suggest this is not the case, and that APs simply reflect how good a contributing memeber the poster is, regardless of professional ability.
As I understand it, though, we oughta keep APs outta Cosmos, as it has nothing to do with security or even anything technical.
Thread AntiPoints in Cosmos would reflect how good a thread is. Nobody would gain AntiPoints, nobody would loose AntiPoints, just like it is now.
The option to neg threads rather than users is there, so my question is: should it be allowed in Cosmos, yes or no?
Here's the Site Suggestion on Thread AntiPoints.
neg to the antipoints, neg.
What do APs have to do with security anyway? They are here for us to rate a person, or thread. They allow us to be able to control how its outcome here will be. As for Security, or NON-Security related threads, is that not why we have Cosmos and Chit-chat?
Holy moly, Gold Eagle, long time no see. Negative, have people neg and green away... no big deal.
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Originally posted here by Negative
[B]Thread AntiPoints in Cosmos would reflect how good a thread is. Nobody would gain AntiPoints, nobody would loose AntiPoints, just like it is now.
The option to neg threads rather than users is there, so my question is: should it be allowed in Cosmos, yes or no?
(sometimes best answer is the shortest one)
I don't think enabling APs in cosmos is a good idea. There will always be people assigning negative or positive APs because they do or don't agree with the oppinions posted. Laying this next to the issue of closing threads because they're nonsense, this should be a job for the moderators imo.
Hmm...I see what you're saying now Neg, I was initially thinking APing a person, forgot about the thread concept. I'm not sure, I can see it both ways, though I think I lean a little toward the 8th Dwarf here.
I think the question to raise that's going to be of key imporance is -- Is it really necessary? Is there a need for it? Will we be any better off?
Get rid of personal AP assignments and keep the general thread assignment so that skiddies can be stopped....
But playing devil's advocate, what happens if a mean troll (like me) starts posting massive amounts of offensive material in Cosmos? He/She can't be banned by other users so more responsiblity would lie on the moderators' shoulders... can they handle it?
I am opposed to either personal or thread APs in Cosmos. It would
lead to a "veto of the small minded". Every time some sensitive soul
saw things being discussed that he thought should not be
discussed, he could attempt to shut down the thread.
I'm reminded of the humorless people who always lectured me in my childhood
"Never discuss politics or religion in polite society." What do they discuss,
horse racing? The Opera?
Anyway, it's totally unnecessary. My ultimate vote of no-confidence for a thread
is to refuse to participate in it. Whenever I stay out of a thread,
it collapses of irrelevance and boredom.
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I voted no, i do not believe ap's should be asigned for anything other than security related posts.
The thread asignment sounds a good idea though. It allows for some sence of the quality of the thread without having to wade through crap befor reaching something worth while reading.
But i'm not going to loose any sleep either way :)
The vote is ON thread assignment AP's... So if it's a good idea, why did you vote against it? I do not understand?Quote:
Originally posted here by jinxy
I voted no, i do not believe ap's should be asigned for anything other than security related posts.
The thread asignment sounds a good idea though. It allows for some sence of the quality of the thread without having to wade through crap befor reaching something worth while reading.
But i'm not going to loose any sleep either way :)
I think a few people have misunderstood like this. Perhaps we should make it clear and start another thread to decide it?
Greetings:
mathgirl32 votes "Yes"
Hrm. I have a feeling I know how this one will turn out. I think we should start lobbying her in the future before she casts her vote.
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Heh...hardly. My vote counts 3.703%(with 27 votes) just like yours. In case you hadn't noticed, Negative and I disagree just about 100% on anything Cosmos-related. I don't even know what he thinks on this issue....I've asked a few times but haven't really been given an answer. I have my own opinion and it is neither influenced nor does it carry more weight than another's opinion.Quote:
Originally posted here by JP
Greetings:
mathgirl32 votes "Yes"
Hrm. I have a feeling I know how this one will turn out. I think we should start lobbying her in the future before she casts her vote.
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I would lean more towards what Rcgreen said. If a thread is uninteresting it tends to die out fairly quickly as people ignore it. Also you have the problem of how to apply the antipoints. Would a newbie have the same number of antipoints as a senior member or would a sliding scale be applied? Cosmos is the one forum where up till now everyone is on an equal level when it comes to discussing very sensitive topics.
I vote no antipoints at all in cosmos. If a thread doesn’t fall under the category of philosophy, ethics, morals, laws, logical & mathematical problems then move it to GCC where it belongs and let it get real APs. If it does fall under one of these categories than it shouldn’t be open to points. Too many good threads will wind up getting closed because of one persons bad response or because some are of an opposing view.
23 No's Vs. 13 Yes's... Looks like a "no Thread AntiPoints/No AntiPoints at all in Cosmos" to me!