a must read for newbies and pro's

hi,

i came across a pdf-file/book which i believe is a must read for everyone who want to program seriously.

it's not just about the languages itself, but it also talks about how the computer/processor works and how a program interacts with other programs and the OS.

it is not specific to one language, but assembly is the language most talked about...

it contains 326 pages of info, and although i'm just on the 10th page while i type this, i'm sure this is something really interesting ;)

this is the pdf file


p.s, i've put this in the programming section, because it's subject is programming :D

Nice!

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This book teaches assembly language for x86 processors and the GNU/Linux
operating system.

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Skimming through the book and reading a blurb here and there, the book IS about assembly and it is based totally on compiling through the Linux kernel. The book starts out and goes through describing the basics of how a kernel, window manager, and application work in sync and then it goes on and introduces assembly and teaches the fundamentals such as variables and basic syntax and eventually leads into how to code your very first program using the lanaguage...

So if you want assembly, read away.

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Skimming through the book and reading a blurb here and there, the book IS about assembly and it is based totally on compiling through the Linux kernel. The book starts out and goes through describing the basics of how a kernel, window manager, and application work in sync and then it goes on and introduces assembly and teaches the fundamentals such as variables and basic syntax and eventually leads into how to code your very first program using the lanaguage...

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yes and no, it uses linux to show things and uses assembly to teach you the things, but it still is very useful for every progammer, and a real programmer masters multiple programming languages, and for him, the language is just the tool, like a compiler, to create a program, but eventually programming comes back to one basic thing, and that goes for all languages, and THATS what this book is about, not just assembly, although it uses assembly and linux and the way to show you ;)

hey

thanks for the book

i like such things

Thanks for the link to it!

Strange, I couldn't get firefox to properly open it, but worked just fine in IE... go figure!

:)

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Strange, I couldn't get firefox to properly open it, but worked just fine in IE... go figure!

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well, i got it to open with firefox, but when i wanted to turn my system in hybernation (with the file still open on firefox) i got a BSOD!

also gmail can't be opened using firefox... so that's a whole other story, perhaps stuff for a complete new thread?

Nice book! Thanks. Definitely worth a read.

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also gmail can't be opened using firefox... so that's a whole other story, perhaps stuff for a complete new thread?

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Yes, it can. I'm checking my mail using Firefox 1.0PR in another window as we speak. Try clearing your cookies.

Cheers,
cgkanchi

Got it, but it will take me forever to read. HA

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Yes, it can. I'm checking my mail using Firefox 1.0PR in another window as we speak. Try clearing your cookies.

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doesn't work, but perhaps i need an update, i´m using 9.3 if i'm not mistaken ;)

assembly isn't usefull to everyone... altough I like the more to the hardware approuch (and speed that goes with it) you can get with assembly but with c also, many people prefer being totally independant upon hardware... if you're a javaprogrammer and you expect your code to work on every piece of electronics, you don't give a **** about registers and whatever is done with them and you sure as hell get nightmares of the spaghetti jump statements
also it's interesting to know how your computer works, but you don't need to learn assembly to get to know that... assembly is quite timeconsuming for some real programming and you'll barely ever need it because you can do pretty much everything in higher programming languages... unless you gonne be a cracker or something

like i said in my previous post, a REAL programmer doesn't master just one language, and what you need to know for programming is talked about here, assembly is just the way of showing it.

if this piece of paper would use C to show you how programs work, they'd still have to use assembly (in C) to show you how the cpu works, how registers work, and how the stack works.

so i think it is not something decided in a one night sleep, but they actually thought about it before making this decision. and i do not expect myself knowing assembly after i've read this book, but what i do expect is that i will become a more efficient programmer (in C).

and although i still am planning to learn ASM, that wasn't the reason why i've started to read this book ;)

neel--> ik snap er de ballen niet van, is dat Fries (BR: ) of zo, die signature van jou?

lepricaun >> brabants

About firefox not working with gmail, if you are going through a proxie make shure you fill out all the protocols.

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lepricaun >> brabants

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ik ook, maar toch snap ik het niet ;)

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lepricaun >> brabants

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me too, but i still don't get it ;)

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NL: Ik zie mij verplicht verstorende maatregelen te nemen. BR: Ik skup oe lups

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this is the one i do not understand, i can't make anything from the response (BR:) that would make any sense...



i'm not using a proxy with firefox, and i have this on 3 systems, not just one, and never altered any of the settings....

Ik skup oe lups >> ik stamp (schup) je (oe) in mekaar (lups) >> I'll kick ya in teh face

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Ik skup oe lups >> ik stamp (schup) je (oe) in mekaar (lups) >> I'll kick ya in teh face

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ooh, ok, welk gedeelte van brabant? >> which part of the province?

geen idee

hahahaha, ok, das ook 'n manier ;)