Parade prohibition puzzles preacher

Why do we allow our government bodies to support all forms of religion as being acceptable and considered to be a part of the bigger picture of "cultural diversity"; but at the same time, why do we allow these same government bodies to actively actively suppress Christianity? I guess the message is that Christians do not have, should not have, or will not be allowed to have "culture" if any connection to a government body or government activity is suspected. I hope the people of Denver really pay attention to what is happening here and vote these spineless lowlifes out of office during their next election. (Regardless of Party)

Full Article: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...365940,00.html

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Holiday Diversity

A December parade in Denver will feature everyone from Chinese lion dancers to gay and lesbian shamans, according to the Rocky Mountain News, but not Christians who want to sing yuletide hymns or carry a Merry Christmas message.

Denver pastor George Morrison said his request to enter a float in the annual Parade of Lights, which apparently only coincidentally happens in late December, were rejected because parade officials wont allow any “direct religious themes.”

"It's a little confusing to me," said the pastor, George Morrison. "Here we have this holiday, Christmas, approaching, and Parade of Lights is suddenly changed into something where you can't even sing a Christmas song?"

The one-hour parade features elaborate floats with holiday symbols such as Santa Claus and gingerbread houses, plus an "international procession" of cultural groups.

The international portion this year features the Two Spirit Society, which honors gay and lesbian American Indians as holy people; a German folk dance group; and performers of the Lion Dance, a Chinese New Year tradition "meant to chase away evil spirits and welcome good luck and good fortune for the year."

Those groups are considered examples of ethnic diversity, not religious groups, a parade official said.

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Most strange!

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The one-hour parade features elaborate floats with holiday symbols such as Santa Claus

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Don't they realise that "Santa Claus" is "Saint Nicholas"................a Christian Saint?

And "The Festival of Light" is "Diwali", a Hindu religious celebration :D

lol Nihil, good points. It has nothing to do with religion. It's about one group hating another and using an existing framework to excercise their anger, hatred and bias.

Actually nihil the santa clause that they know is a coca cola advertisment so it is ok to show him and I wonder what are they going to do about the saint patricks day parades?

OFF TOPIC : Road nice signature. I haven't bought the album yet but have listen to it. It rocks and as for Slaine If they play there It would be great but I reckon I will just have to settle for seeing them in Paris ( France) in june or juily.

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U2, gone retro?.......They lost the plot for a while Imo. Best thing they ever done was, "WAR".
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although i do think there is a war being waged against christianity which is completely un-american i find it rather ironic that its happening to a group that has done away with and made illegal countless holidays of other religions. the feast of eostar is now easter, hollowmas is now all souls day (or maybe its saints) which in turn became holloween, the rebirth of the sun became the birth of the son, etc. anyone caught celebrating the old holliday was prosecuted.

never let your dogma get in the way of someone's karma

Hi Ted~

Halloween is the end of October, and is "All Saints". All Souls is the next feast, and is November..........that being the month of the "Holy Souls", when we respect our dead.

You are quite correct, the early Christian Church "stole" traditional feasts, to make the conversion/transition process easier. This would be the "old religion", "wicca", or druidic religion....the solstices:)

An interesting fact is that we celebrate 25th. December as the birthday of Jesus Christ. Although they do not celebrate it as such, this is also accepted by the one billion or so Moslems .............remember that Jesus is mentioned 43 times in the Holy Qu'ran (Koran) whereas the Prophet Mohammed (PBOH) is only mentioned once :D

What I find strange about this thread, is that most religions are community based?.............so if you have a community event such as a parade, is it not natural that they be involved.?

I think that the people of Denver have "lost the plot" :eek:

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anyone caught celebrating the old holliday was prosecuted

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Yeah in the 17th Century. TODAY the persecutors are on the opposite side of the fence. Their motivation is not religious, but selfish vanity.

Ah what's that word for cycle?

250 AD - Christians are being killed
350 AD - Christians are the ones killing
2004 AD - Christinaity is being condemed again.

What a crazy world.

Anyway, if they don't want church and state, quick! better remove all weddings from records, as well as all laws regarding sexual life, and the ammount/gender of parterns.

Blah, "ethnic diversity," what a joke, because diversity is having visable differences in people and pretending you don't see them.

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Anyway, if they don't want church and state, quick! better remove all weddings from records, as well as all laws regarding sexual life, and the ammount/gender of parterns.

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/me pulls out an Andrew Jackson, now what’s that say on my money made by the U. S. Gov't? “In God we trust” :eek:

…just checking to see if I missed something…

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1521:

One of the reasons Cortez had gone to Mexico was to exchange the religion of the natives for the Christian religion. When Cortez ordered the natives to stop worshiping their gods and worship the Christian god instead. The natives refused so Cortez and his men destroyed the native statues.
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On November 8, 1519 Cortez led his army into Tenochitilan. Montezuma and the Aztecs treated Cortez and his army with respect. Valázques sent solders to arrest Cortez. Cortez conquered Velázques and returned to Tenochitlan. Cortez captured Montezuma and used him to control the Aztecs. Montezuma was killed, and in May 1521 Cortez attacked Tenochtitlan and this time succeeded. The Aztec Empire fell on August 13 and Cortez had all the gold he wanted by of course, killing thousands of innocent people and destroying the Aztec Empire.


http://historyday.crf-usa.org/1721/biography.html

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today mexico is catholic.

im sure i can find more modern examples, probably not as grande as this one but it's not really that important...on what date did non-christian people stop being persecuted in the americas? do you thing a jewish or hindu temple would have gone over large in selma alabama in 1950?

BUT the fact remains that reverse discrimination (or any kind of discrimination) is just plain un-american.

1500s is modern? OK on the big scale of things it is, but that was also the time of Witches. Henry the 8th, the early non-formal birth of the Church of England, and the renaissance.

If you look into the history of the Aztec rituals, it too is covered in blood. In fact life meant very little outside of royalty. Christianity's greatest evil is the stifling of scientific research. Their history is no more brutal or righteous than scores of Armies before them. From the atrocities of Ancient Egypt to the Roman Empire in their pre-Christian desires.

Their fault is in the isolation and greed over the control of human destiny, in the form of scientific progress and the summoning of the Dark Ages. If not for them (Christian power monger in the past) I would be living in an age equal to what technology could be in 2400 versus 2004. Wars were made in the name of Christ, but the people were not men of Christ. They used him as a tool. Like a dictator hiding behind socialism to control and subdue his people.

Christian actions in the 1500s and before are like the Muslims of today to some lesser extent. Although if Islam had the military advantage somehow, the parallel would be complete. I've always had disgust for Cortez and the assimilation of South American culture by the Spanish. The Americas and her people were no match for the science of warfare brought upon them by the nations of Europe. They try the same thing today, though not by military force. We wonder what would have happened if some nation waged war against the Holy Roman Church and today there are some nations who see the need to wage war against another Dark Age of radical god worship on the extreme. The same god only this face is Islam and not as forgiving.

There are those living in our society that preaches tolerance to one extreme while shackling freedoms of another subculture and reforming democracy to their bidding via selected judicial proceeding that undermine the will of my people. Their parallel is Adolph Hitler to me. In his speeches leading up to his power play, I see parallels... It’s almost scary. Just insert “Christian” instead of “Jew” and you have documents written by him and speeches from the 1920s that are alive today! In the form of blogs all over the internet. And I am not talking the Notsee sights. (misspelled on purpose) It is my desire to stop them. That leads me to another point, it’s not like Hitler came out of nowhere. His views were known for decades leading up to the invasion outside Germany. He was even arrested and jailed for them, yet he rose and stood unchallenged by an entire continent.