Blame canada

How do you view Canadians ??

Here is what some people think http://jinx.etv.cx/canada.mov

I myselve have been to Canada once and like the country..
But hey there's an ocean between us..

Wow. I had heard about some of these but never realized how far they went. "Canada is allowed to exist.." ... *shudder*... that's a very scary view coming from the US.

Most intelligent Americans like Canadians. A lot of Americans hate Canadians because you think for yourself and don't mindlessly follow a leader.

Funny that's an opionions I've *oonly* ever hearn from The US. Or terrorists.

Wait and see what happens if Bush starts conscription again... the number of draft dodgers coming here would be incredible, and we wouldn't tutn them back, either.

Why can't everybody be more like the Dutch, and send us enough Mmillions of tulips every year to cover every inch of Ottawa with them.

And yeah, our army sucks. But at least our engineers don't. And our pilots. Hell we train a large number of Americal pilots.

I would think that it's because we don't blindy follow the US that the rest of the world likes us so much. They wonder if they would have the same fortitude to deny a superpower like that if they were in our place.

Hmm... Southpark movie pops up in my mind. Wasn't that a song? "yadda yadda yadda - BLAME CA-NA-DAH!"

yeah, Guus

I stole the topic from SouthPark..

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Blame Canada
South Park Parents

Times have changed,
Our kids are getting worse
They won't obey their parents,
They just want to fart and curse. Should we blame the government, or blame society, or should we blame the images on tv No!
Blame Canada! Blame Canada

With all their beady little eyes,
their flapping heads so full of lies
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
We need to form a full assault, it's Canada's fault! Don't blame me, for my son Stan, He saw the darn cartoon, and now he's off to
join the klan!> And my boy eric once, had my picture on his shelf, but now when I see him, he tells me to **** myself>

Well, Blame Canada!

It seems that everything's gone wrong since
Canada came along
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada! They're not even a real country anyway. My son could of been a doctor or a lawyer, it's a true, Instead he burned up like a piggie on a barbecue> Should we blame the matches? Should we blame the fire, or the doctor who allowed him to expire. Heck no!
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
With all their hockey hubaloo and that bitch Anne Murray too. Blame Canada!
Shame on Canada!

The smut we must stop
The trash we must smash
Laughter and fun
must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming us!

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google feeling lucky

When was it that 'nobody' hated the United States/ Americans? hmm? It only intensified because Bush is now in office. May it also be that we have the 'power' so to speak that everyone tends to bestow loving hate on us? Everyone wants something they don't/ can't have. From what I seen and heard I would love to visit Canada one day, so I don't see why theres any question- at least in my point of view.

*no harm meant,

kurt

Well you know Canada has to be the favorite neighbor of the US. I mean the other alternative is Mexico and one of our states was at War with them at one time. Somehow i just can't beleive Michael Moore told the truth about you (Canada) either. He tends to only tell people what they want to hear.

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I mean the other alternative is Mexico and one of our states was at War with them at one time

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We were at war with you too once... the war of 1812. We invaded and burnt the Whitehouse to a crisp black-type colour. So you had to whitewash it. Which is why it's now known as the Whitehouse. It was some shade of purple before, I believe.

Actually we weren't Canada yet in 1812; still a British colony; confederation was in 1867. So I gotta give credit to the Brits too. But still, to be a citizen of the only country to successfuly invade the United States and burn its capitol to the ground?

I can be proud of that.

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It was some shade of purple before, I believe.

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I always thought it was pink. But double checking the White House Historical Association apparently the term is from prior to the fire in 1814 due to the whitewash on the walls.

Ahh but if my history serves me right you were not a country yet. THe battle was with France. Besides the war of 1812 was really messed up. THe biggest most memorable battle of NewOrleans wasn't fought until after the war was over.

Yes! I blame North Texas! They didn't send down enough beer. That's what's caused all the problems...

So all you leafy type Texans start shipping the good stuff our way, eh? We'll swap ya some mad cows and a winning hockey team...

Is this ALL because the Canadians [North Texans ...... LOL] refused to blindly follow in the USofA's footsteps ?

I have to admit to some favouritism here, as I have a whole heap of family now living in Canada, scattered across the length and breadth, but there all the same.

But, even allowing for that, I've found the real reasons why they didn't join in with the Iraq war :

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10 reasons why Canada won’t join the war on Iraq



10. We have no way of getting there.

9. We are too busy at home with the Maple Syrup Season.

8. After 136 Years, we are still copying off France.

7. Saddam's name pronounced backwards is "Mad Ass". We'll stay away from him.

6. There is only limited potential for sales of Canadian Bacon in Iraq after the war.

5. Our Sea King Helicopter was damaged and needs repairs.

4. Celine Dionne can't sing to the troops because she has a contract in Las Vegas.

3. The rivers in Iraq are too shallow for our War Canoes.

2. Lousy hockey in Iraq at this time of year.

1. Our army is needed at home in case of another snowstorm in Toronto.

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I think I've put this somewhere else, but couldn't find it, hence, no link.

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Originally posted here by The Grunt
Most intelligent Americans like Canadians. A lot of Americans hate Canadians because you think for yourself and don't mindlessly follow a leader.

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Or, don't mindlessly follow what the US media says. Keep in mind that the interview was from FOX News, the media service who's reputation is currently lower than the results of a flushed toilet.

;)

I have been forced to come screaming and kicking into work at half seven this morning so I hate everyone at the moment and will hate everyone till I get my second or third cup of coffee. :p
Anyway I have never been to Canada so my only experiances with canadians are with those who travel. I can say I like the typical canadian tourist much more than most other tourists from the north americain continent.
I am going for my coffeee now. I'll be back.

Dont you know we are all pot smoking homosexuals up here ;)

Canadians...the backseat drivers of North America. :D

But they make funny movies, and they're too adorable to hate. ;)

o canada.. the largest unprotected border in the world exists between the u.s. and canada, the u.s. doesn't have to worry about a canadian invasion for shizzle, and the U.S. won't invade canada unless:

a. bush thinks they are harboring terrorists, or if osama bin laden flies to canada..

or

b. canada starts hoarding natural resources, you know, stuff bush drinks, like oil, natural gas, etc.

I've always liked Canada. Everyone I've known has been nice. But almost every Canadian that I know doesn't care for the US. Can't say I blame them... I've even considered moving up there...

The only thing that I didn't care for on my visit... the store clerks are VERY slow. They'd rather take their time talking on the phone to their loved ones than to help the only person standing in line... I didn't realize that it should take 20 minutes to buy a pack of batteries. Service was slow everywhere up there. (I was in Toronto)

If you think its slow in Toronto...you should try some of the more "rural" areas :)

As a kid I lived in the Chicago area...I have no problems with Americans.....

I do have issues with your current administration and the extreme right almost nazi-ish overtones

and religious fundementalists as a whole...be they american, canadian or what ever

My .02 cdn

MLF

You have the wrong direction. Nazi's are godless socialists. Ask Hitler. That would make them on the left. :D

I like Americans and Canadians :) I would love to visit both countries

I once took a rode trip to canada, and when stopped at the border I was asked where I lived, I responded "hawaii" and not only did the guy at the border ask me if I drove from hawaii, but he asked me for a passport...

I see my northern neighbors as "like an American, but without a gun" (kids in the hall)
but really, I've only been twice, and both times it was so wonderful :)

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Originally posted here by morganlefay
I do have issues with your current administration and the extreme right almost nazi-ish overtones

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"De Oppreso Liber"
Liberator of the Oppressed


From what I read, these overtones are quite common throughout liberal earth. But at the end of the day, ignorance will be spoken and facts will be overlooked. In the past two and a half years, 50 million men, women, and children have been liberated from two of the most brutal regimes on earth. Whether any of you like it or not, it's going to be printed in authentic history books.

So how many people has good ole' Canada liberated in the past 50 years? I can read a long list that we have. ;)

I don’t know what is worse, watching people get treatment by brutal dictators and regimes, or bitching about it and trying to block someone who is going to stop it? Saddam had more bodyguards than we thought!

Here, I guess, are some more "nazi-ish" type things our administration has been up to.

(Fact sheet)
-- The President has proposed $15 billion over five years to combat HIV/AIDS abroad, which increasingly affects women.

-- In 2002, President Bush initiated a $500 million International Mother and Child HIV Prevention Initiative.

-- The Millennium Challenge Account will provide $5 billion to countries that govern justly, invest in their people and promote economic growth, with a particular emphasis on the treatment of women and children.

-- President Bush has proposed over $150 million over two years to combat worldwide trafficking in persons, predominantly women and children forced into sexual slavery.

-- To date, the President's Middle East Partnership Initiative has committed $129 million to programs supporting economic, political, and educational reform efforts in the Middle East and champion opportunity for all people of the region, especially women and youth.

-- $9 million has been spent to support African women refugees.

IRAQ

As the Iraqi people reclaim freedom, the United States is supporting them. The systematic use of rape by Saddam Hussein's regime to dishonor families has ended, and Iraqis of all ethnic and religious groups are participating in rebuilding their country.

-- In November, President Bush met with Iraqi leaders in the Oval Office to discuss women's roles in Iraq's future.

-- Three women on the Iraqi Governing Council were instrumental in drafting the Transitional Administrative Law (TAL).

-- The TAL makes it illegal to discriminate on the basis of gender, ethnicity, or religion; and guarantees all Iraqis the right to vote.

-- This week, the Administration announced two new programs for Iraqi women -- the $10 million Iraqi Women's Democracy Initiative and the U.S.-Iraq Women's Network.

-- The United States supported the travel of Iraqi women to the UN Commission on the Status of Women in New York, March 1-12, 2004.

-- Six Iraqi women are participating in the Fulbright Program, which was restored in Iraq in January.

-- The United States is rehabilitating and equipping 11 regional women's centers in Iraq. We are renovating and equipping 9 women's centers in Baghdad; the first opened on March 8, 2004.

AFGHANISTAN

Afghan women are preparing to vote in free elections, having participated in the drafting of a new constitution and taking on key responsibilities in liberated Afghanistan. Under the ruthless grip of the Taliban regime, Afghan girls were barred from getting an education, women were banned from holding jobs, and women were publicly whipped when they did not follow the Taliban's rules. Afghan women are now being integrated into the economic, social and political lives of their liberated country.

-- Female doctors are back at work, as are other professional women. All are contributing to modernize their country's medical system. Under the Taliban, male doctors were prohibited from treating women.

-- The U.S.-Afghan Women's Council provides education exchange programs between Afghan ministries and U.S. agencies, academic exchanges, and professional enrichment opportunities.

-- The United States rehabilitated the Ministry of Women's Affairs building and created the first women's resource center for job training.

-- Afghanistan's new constitution affords equal rights to all Afghan citizens, including the right for women to vote in elections scheduled for later this year.

-- The United States is providing $2.5 million to build 14 women's centers, and each location will have audiovisual equipment, computers, libraries, and a daycare center. Centers are providing vocational training for women.

-- Reclaiming their human dignity is important to Afghanistan's women, and with U.S. Government funding, war widows are revitalizing handicraft industries. One effort encourages carpet vendors to employ women who graduate from training courses. War widows are employed in bakeries that provided bread to about 250,000 urban poor in 2002.

-- The Afghan constitution provided rights to women and the loya jirga had a substantial representation of women.

TRAFFICKING IN PERSONS

President Bush is advancing the fight against trafficking in persons, which is a modern day form of slavery. Each year approximately 800,000 to 900,000 people, primarily women and children, are trafficked around the world, including thousands into the United States.

-- In his speech to the United Nations General Assembly last September, President Bush said: "[H]uman beings are bought, sold or forced across the world's borders. Among them are hundreds of thousands of teenage girls, and others as young as five, who fall victim to the sex trade. This commerce in human life generates billions of dollars each year -- much of which is used to finance organized crime." (*cough* Greece, Spain etc...)

-- To combat sex trafficking, the President announced an initiative of an additional $50 million to support the good work of organizations that are rescuing women and children from exploitation.

-- The United States Department of State publishes an annual report on trafficking in persons and based on the findings, works with countries to help them combat trafficking in persons.

-- The Justice Department is aggressively investigating and prosecuting human trafficking. In FY 2001 to FY 2003, the Justice Department opened 210 new investigations, which is more than double the number opened in the previous three final years. In FY 2001 to FY 2003, the department prosecuted 110 traffickers, which is nearly a three-fold increase compared to the previous fiscal years.

(end fact sheet)

SOURCE: http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/wwwhwashnews1479.html
"De Oppreso Liber"
Liberator of the Oppressed

Some facts about Canada...

1. Concerning war:
since confederation we've been in three official wars...the boar war in africa 1900 no Americans came
world war 1 1914 americans didn't even show up till 1917
world war 2 1939 americans protested against the war right up till pearl harbor
been involved in one police action the korean war
and thousands of Canadians volunteered and died in vietnam wearing US fatigues
we rescued the US diplomats in Iran
we participated in the first war against Iraq
we have been in Afghanistan since 9/11 and have even had our people killed by US aircraft
the fact that most Canadians do not associate 9/11 with Iraq, and consider it more or less the unfinished business his daddy started, and a power move against the UN's wishes does not negate the fact that Canada has stood by the Americans more so than they have stood by us

2. do we benefit from having the US as our neighbors for our protection or does the US need us more...consider if any other nation resided here would America have enjoyed 137 years of peace and prosperity...or how about another competing nucular power, even a friendly one...I wonder who really benefits more

3. most Canadians love Americans but we love them like an annoying older brother...who tries to push you around and take advantage of you...we love you and we wouldn't want to live without you but that doesn't mean we always like you..cause sometimes you can really be a pain in the ass !!!!
:D

A couple of things I forgot to mention...we still have troops in Bosnia and up till 1965 we were considered one of the world's elite fighting forces...just ask any veteran of World War 2.
but we never had an official military of our own till 1944 ( or there abouts ) , before then we fought under the british crown in Canadian regiments.
I realize among a few Americans there is resentment for Canada's stand for taking the side of the UN this time around...but unlike Afghanistan after 9/11, most Canadians don't see the point of going after Iraq again after it was proven the first time that the desert snake had no teeth.
If this was a full scale assault against the snake with teeth ( OBL ) Canada would definitely had gone. Bush's mistake was not committing the full resourses that he committed to in Iraq to hunting down OBL...personally, I think he ought to forget about Iraq turn the troops around and send them to Afghanistan...and if OBL isn't there he's probably home in Saudi Arabia in some palace watching CNN and it wouldn't surprise me if he's been there the whole time and takes the cave shots from a basement studio to make him look like he's out there in the desert caves...or at least that's the deception I would devise if I had 350 million dollars and a palace..I sure as **** wouldn't be living in a cave...I'd be sippin' rum & cokes with my feet up by the pool making everyone think I'm livin' in a cave miles away. :D

Egaladeist,

If I thought Saddam would have spent the next 4 decades NOT plotting an attack in retaliation for "daddy’s" war, where Iraq took over a smaller country and dropped bombs on civil communities, attacking Israel repeatedly, then I would agree with you. As it stands, I don't share that point of view and the UN no longer had any precedence over his military secrecies. Even Saddam himself said he planned to start the old war machine once pressure was lifted. So unlike the United Nations and unlike my grandparents in WW1 and WW2, we struck first and didn’t wait for the next attack planned and eventually carried out by those in power who have abandoned political outlets for their rage. And this AFTER 10 years of negotiation. My conscience is clean with that.

Canada and most of Europe see a different perspective. In some cases I wonder if they ignore evidence of severe corruption within the United Nations and also the time frame where Saddam was given both a final ultimatum and time to carry it out if he desired before the U.S. rolled into town. He flipped the U.S. and the United Nations a proverbial political middle finger.

I never fully understood the major outcry considering the documented and known history of Iraq and it's rulling Bath Party. But there have been several events that lead me to form my own opinion. Even socialist Europe sees it’s opportunity for profit and political maneuvering when it comes about.

New Years Eve I caught Chris Rock in a comedy specail..

And he summed it up really well. (quote may not be exact....I had consumed a fair amount of wine)

"Why the rest of the world hates America

Its the hypocrisy of our democracy"

Well said!!!

MLF

RoadClosed I'm not saying that I disagree with the US's decision to go in and finish the job...I admire the US's political and military policy regarding other nations.
What many people forget in evaluating US policy is that ( as far as empire's go...and the US is this age's empire ) it has been the only empire that has ever existed in the history of man that is not colonialistic in nature. Egypt, rome, the ottoman turks, the mongols, france, the soviet union, england, germany, spain, etc...have all ( during their reigns as empires ) kept and colonized the lands they conquered. Whereas the US has always followed a policy of self-government. And for that they should be commended !!!
Also I am a charity co-ordinator and I know americans are the most generous of all...giving an average of 1.4 % of their pre-tax income...compared to .74 % for canadians...and .45 % for brits...americans have alot to be proud of.
What I am saying is ...
1. americans know very little about our history especially when it comes to war...many times we have followed americans and brits into war...not once, not in the boar war or both "world wars" did america follow us...who do you think really has the right to bitch?
2. at first bush tried to associate Iraq with 9/11...we went to Afghanistan and we're still there...but no one but him saw the connection with Iraq...his first mistake
3. bush went to the UN...mistake number two...he should have just invaded...and the UN would have either supported it or been less critical of it...but by going to the UN first he was obliged to follow their recommendations and when he invaded anyways the UN had no choice but to condemn the action or end up with egg on their face...he basically caused his own backlash by trying to play the UN card
We have been your neighbors for 137 years, we share the world's longest undefended border, we are America's largest trading partner, we've existed in peace for as long as Canada has existed as a nation, don't you think it's about time you actually learned something about us?

:D

Ahh, touché...

I know more about the rest of the world history and politics than Canada. Perhaps it’s so much like American we take it for granted, it’s so easy to travel there and move about that it be taken for granted? Should I be ashamed? We did learn all the Canadian provinces, their capitols and studied your government a little bit of current events in school but not history. Sorry, I officially apologize as an American :)

RoadClosed you don't have to apologize for anything you live in a great country...I've lived there twice ( in California and Texas )...half of what we learn in school is about america...as empires go you have the most benevolent empire that has ever existed on the face of this earth...we even talk up here every ten years or so about what would happen if Canada ever decided to join as new states...and you would be surprised how many would vote yes if it ever came to that.

Did you know that Canada is NOT a democracy...we are officially a parlimentary monarchy...we do not have the right of veto, we cannot vote or petition on bills or laws before any stage of government, essentially the only right we have is to elect...what they do while in office is virtually out of our control...our house and our senate, and our judges are appointed NOT elected...our new constitution affords us no property rights that were guaranteed in the original bill of rights, and I could go on.

As people we are very much the same but politically, historically, and culturally we are very different.
:)

We could buy from other places and cripple your economy and then you would be known for Vodka made with potatoes. Go ask any wealthy Russian about Vodka made with potatoes. ;)

Talk all you want up there, but just remember the hand that feeds you. ;)

Vodka is not a mainstay of our economy...and what you suggest would not be economically possible without crippling BOTH our enonomies as they are too intertwined, by stopping the flow of goods Canada would actually suffer the least because our natural resourse pool is much larger and less dependant upon foreign goods...we also are a major supplier of water and power to the US in fact 1/3 of the state of New York alone is powered by overflow from the james project in northern quebec.
We are interdependant and no poliction in their right mind having any reasonable understanding of economics would allow a major trade war between our countries. Economically we are ONE country and quite inseparatable. :)

The hand feeds both ways. :)

Unless you are buying vodka off the top shelf, guess what... it's made in the good old South of America. Tenessee and Kentucky. Brands like Smirnoff etc. distilled from grains and bottled here. Oh and I think Glacier (a top shelf vodka made from potatos) is made in the USA. lol. There are about 100 others so we can get by on our own. :p In fact I love martinis and I haven't made on with Russian vodka in years.