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I use netstumbler and an antenna via my PCI card in my laptop. I would like a program that takes the netstumbler files and converts them into a file that only a GPS type of program can read. Any suggestions?
Other question: Are there any GPS mapping programs that just tell me where I am etc.
COnsidering there is not geo location data to capture via netstumbler or packets broadcast via wifi; that is impossible without you figuring out your location via a gps device and puting it in manually.
Well I ordered a laptop with built in GPS. How would I use a "program" to see where I am etc, like a moving map sort of"?
My simple understanding would suggest the following example/analogy:
1. You have a lot of electric power sockets in your house?
2. They all provide electric power.
3. Only you know which room they are in?
You have two parallel, but unrelated activities?...........the service, and the location?
:)
Hey, hey, hey take it easy, I'm only 13 hehe, Is there any program that will show me on a map, that is what GPS does doesn't it? heheQuote:
Originally posted here by nihil
My simple understanding would suggest the following example/analogy:
1. You have a lot of electric power sockets in your house?
2. They all provide electric power.
3. Only you know which room they are in?
You have two parallel, but unrelated activities?...........the service, and the location?
:)
This goes back to the 'stickies' in the newbie section.
If you want specific information, then you HAVE to give more details up front, not dribbling them in piecemeal.
GPS will spin up on start up, and take it's fix, convert to a co-ordinate,[easting / northing] and spit out the details to you, in a format that you can understand.....
I mean that if you are buying a laptop with GPS built-in, then it will work from day 1...........
pointless otherwise .
Well yeah, but I want sort of a Mapping program that works with GPS and shows me moving on a road etc, get what I'm saying?
Autoroute will do that for you. There must be a ton of other mapping apps that will work with Gps. Be a bit useless other wise.
Yeah!!
James Bond was using it YEARS ago :eek:
Remember the little disc display, and the accuracy was unbelievable :D
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And the BEEP, it ain't a gadget unless it beeps..............
Hmmm,
I guess that I am older than your grandfather :DQuote:
Hey, hey, hey take it easy, I'm only 13 hehe, Is there any program that will show me on a map, that is what GPS does doesn't it? hehe
OK, your new laptop will tell you where the laptop is. You can find a wireless link, but that is not tied into any GPS system. You can only do it by PHYSICAL PROXIMITY, not remotely............you don't have access to "those" satellites ;)
I will tell you a little story (a true one!)
A senior systems architect (SSA) came to visit me...........
SSA: "My GPS says that I am here but I cannot see you"
ME: "We make electronic warfare and countermeasures kit, of course you cannot see us, but I can see you on this TV screen"
I then gave him directions..............do you see my point?
:D
Hopefully it comes with a program to map you. The GPS ONLY knows a calulation latitude and longitude/height based on calculations for multiple satelite data streams it compares to a database built in real time from one of the streams. Another program like Rand Mcnally or Garmin, corelates it to a suface location in relation to buldings and landmarks. You still will not get any precise location unless you know exactly where the transmitter is.
Well what if I use the longitude and latitue and use that info into a program to map everything out for me? Would that work? If so what program?
My brother who is even more into gadgets than I am has got Gps on his Pocket PC. It does exactly what the original poster wants IE moving map displaying position on the map. He being a mobile field engineer neads it. He had a plugin for it that would give you verbal navigation instructions. Also it would warn when you were coming up to a gatso camera. Told you when you were speeding aswell....................................No good to me though, I have a lead right foot.Quote:
And the BEEP, it ain't a gadget unless it beeps
:D
Hey Acidloop,
There is no "proper answer"..........
Where do you live? a "dumpster"..........guess that makes you American? :D
OK..........look at ZIP codes?
Now I live in the UK so things are different?
The first thing you must promise me is that you will be careful and not do anything illegal or stupid. You are 13? your parents will get the bill? :( and you WILL be living in a dumpster..........
OK I did a project a while back to get service engineers to locations and to schedule/optimise their routes.
In the UK we have "Postcodes" they are like your ZIP codes but will locate to maybe three feet of the letter box! You can get software that ties into the Ordnance Survey maps (our government official maps guys).
If you find a site, just find out who owns it and check their snail mail addy?............no GPS required...........or would you like my password to GCHQ? :rolleyes:
Or, as you are an American, try the twin towers in Langley?
Hehe, no I'm canadian, Jinxy what was that program called and is there any other programs that do that with GPS?
I think he has TomTom Navigator........................Via bluetooth to his ppc. Not sure what the talking add on was called but there is a load of different ones out there. Also many companies that produce maps for use with Gps. http://www.google.co.uk/search?clien...=Google+SearchQuote:
what was that program called and is there any other programs that do that with GPS
Any gps hardware will come with a mapping application. It would be useless without one, whether you have to purchase it sepretly or as part of a package, will, I suppose depend on where you by it from.
The item doesn't have a restore cd.
I use Netstumbler and Toposource(?), (the laptop isn't up right now), it gives me the airphoto of where I am as I travel and netstumbler records the location... Yes, I paid a little for the virtual COM port software... But it's fun and very accurate.. I need to play with it more but when I can get a 0.25m air photo of a target I can work out the rest from there.... :D
Is there any that I do NOT have to pay for?
A map program...free? Where? Nope that I know of!
You can at least bum off 30.00 dollars (or whatever they are in Canada ;) ), from your Mommy ? or just have it? Go to a Staples (do you have staples up there?) or any other electronic/ software store for that matter, and buy one. Delorme has worked for me. okay first:
Do your wardriving (but hey aren't you 13? how are you driving lol srry bad joke) with your GPS on. Then save the results.
If you bought Microsoft's Map point <don't know how you will, I don't even have that money>, you need to download StumbVerter.
Or if your like me and poor you bought the DeLorme one, you need to download :: WiMap. DeLorme is the best one for this use and is easier to get and more affordable.
From there you need different instructions depending which software you bought... You can also search www.netstumbler.com for conversion tools for other software.
*no harm meant
kurt
I'm getting Microsoft Streets and Trips tomorrow or so.
No, because the information is not in the public domain. Over here the maps are government owned with a perpetual copyright. Companies that use the information have to pay royalty fees to them........same with our post code system...............I had to spend £15,000 (GBP) on the project I mentioned. Plus annual update fees:)Quote:
Is there any that I do NOT have to pay for?
See if you can get a trial first so you know you are buying a solution that does what you want :)
You sometimes get trials of the upper levels on magazine cover CDs. These are free, but will sort of get you to the road/street/neighbourhood, rather than the fine detail.
:)
nihil if im not too rude in asking, what sort of work line are you in, i mean u speak of electronic warfare. would this be as in military or civilian based?
No problems mate! :D
I was "in" then went onto civvy street..............then into civilian contractors/providers
So I am civilian based.............that is pretty common over here
Hope that explains......?
:)
I heard that Microsoft Sreets and Trips would be a good program for me. Does it supply US and Canadian maps?
Yeah nihil that explains all, m just doing ew trainng, in right now. be interested to find out what sort of use civvies can use other than law enforcement
What do you mean proximity?