What is best freeware FTP client for Win XP, say from this 4 products:
- SmartFTP,
- Filezilla,
- FlashFXP (http://www.flashfxp.com),
- ACE ftp
What I mean: just ftp client, lightweight, clean, i.e. write less registry entries into user
system..
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What is best freeware FTP client for Win XP, say from this 4 products:
- SmartFTP,
- Filezilla,
- FlashFXP (http://www.flashfxp.com),
- ACE ftp
What I mean: just ftp client, lightweight, clean, i.e. write less registry entries into user
system..
Best one I know of is the default FTP commandline program. :)
its old, archaic, and extremelly inconvenient thing - using this 'command line', typing command on black screen, etc- bad thing..
so you are a real GUI person, then i think you are in the wrong forum / interests. the most powerful programs are written for the commandline, so if you do not like it, then i'm afraid you might miss a lot of powerful tools....Quote:
its old, archaic, and extremelly inconvenient thing - using this 'command line', typing command on black screen, etc- bad thing..
also commandline (textbased) programs are faster then GUI programs, it is more logical to use and most of them are freeware...
i prefer commandline above gui at almost any time (except browser).
ftp would be my choice too, although i sometimes use SmartFtp as well if i need to upload complete directory structures at once...
Amen, brother :D. True power lies in command line, no matter *nix or windows!Quote:
so you are a real GUI person, then i think you are in the wrong forum / interests. the most powerful programs are written for the commandline, so if you do not like it, then i'm afraid you might miss a lot of powerful tools....
also commandline (textbased) programs are faster then GUI programs, it is more logical to use and most of them are freeware...
i prefer commandline above gui at almost any time (except browser).
ftp would be my choice too, although i sometimes use SmartFtp as well if i need to upload complete directory structures at once...
And taurus5, it sounds like you don't like to move anything more than your index finger!?! Once you get down the basic use of the command line, its very easy. If not at the very start....
If you do decide to move beyond the stuck in the box mind phase:
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d...us/ntcmds.mspx
i gotta go with smartFTP - and i aint getting dragged into the GUI/Command line argument as for me they both have their uses.
v_Ln
He's just asking for a decent FTP-client for Win XP. Trying to talk him into using the command line is like trying to talk someone into using Linux when all they want to know is a decent alternative for IE...
I always use SmartFTP. It's fast, and it's powerful...
The (minimal!) speed you gain from a textbased program being faster than its GUI-counterpart, is lost entirely by its use: don't tell me it's faster to type in a bunch of commands than it is to drag-and-drop (even for one single file) :)
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That's bull... may have been true in the Windows 95-days, but not anymore. Show me one thing that proves that a command line has more power than a GUI...Quote:
True power lies in command line, no matter *nix or windows!
I myself have used CoreFTP for a while, never let me down....
Hey i only type with my index finger:-pQuote:
And taurus5, it sounds like you don't like to move anything more than your index finger!?!
I guess SmartFTP is better since more people suggested it.
ahhhh but neg you should know that command line makes you look like a l337 hack0r - that is its true power ;)Quote:
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True power lies in command line, no matter *nix or windows!
That's bull... may have been true in the Windows 95-days, but not anymore. Show me one thing that proves that a command line has more power than a GUI...
v_Ln
I know that that's what it's all about, val ;)
Once I tried use windows ftp, start-run ftp.exe, then I have opened my paper with ftp commands, then I was connected to ftp server, then I have tried to find a file which I should transfer, then I have written his path, then copied this path a ftp window; but for this time, that I have spent to search file or command, my ftp server has disconnected me(due connection time limit), etc... I never going to use this way any more...
Yes, SmartFTP looks preferable choice, I just want to get some opinion about this or other good FTP, how many entries it write, files install, etc
pfff. pfff. pfff! That comment of mine was more of a personal opinion. Especially since it was directed towards White Scorpion. But since you pointed it out so much with your 'bull', lets see.Quote:
That's bull... may have been true in the Windows 95-days, but not anymore. Show me one thing that proves that a command line has more power than a GUI...
Yes on a basic level command line tools, nowadays, are 'archaic'. Typing in commands and their arugments can be tedious when wanting to do basic things.
But I have never had a command line tool 'crash' on me or dampen my CPU.
The same command line tools on a *nix system can be also found for the windows system. For example, nmap and wget. Where as many GUI programs can not be found for both of these systems.
For computer repair!
Lastly, I find it more rewarding to use a command line tool because you have to use your brain and remember commands. And of course even that is made easy by the help arguments.
Whatever, man pfff
Then, I suggest you take a typing class or two..heck maybe three ;) jkQuote:
Hey i only type with my index finger:-p
kurt
I use FileZilla.
As for the commandline recommendation, everyone who recommended it needs a bonk on the head.
Well, I don't see how this fits in with web development but that's all well and good.
I have few problems with IE or the standard cli tool that comes with winders. There are some other good suggestions here however.
Just how rewarding can it be to use a freaking ftp client? If you want to waste brain cycles read a book or get a hobby. =P
:grr:
So you also include--->MsMittens? I doubt it!Quote:
As for the commandline recommendation, everyone who recommended it needs a bonk on the head.
This was directed to White Scorpion on a joking tone. Sorry that I didn't adorn the end of the sentence of similies so you guys wouldn't freak :rolleyes: I didn't know everyone here was on such a serious stance, especially with me...pffff!Quote:
Amen, brother . True power lies in command line, no matter *nix or windows!
This was directed to this comment because I took it as close minded:Quote:
And taurus5, it sounds like you don't like to move anything more than your index finger!?! Once you get down the basic use of the command line, its very easy. If not at the very start....
If you do decide to move beyond the stuck in the box mind phase:
I was simply just trying to get across that the command line was/is not a 'bad thing' and should not be tossed aside in opitions. Yes it was blunt but hey thats me....Quote:
its old, archaic, and extremelly inconvenient thing - using this 'command line', typing command on black screen, etc- bad thing..
There...cleared things up for ya???????............................?????????????????????????????????
Let's break this down since you were evidently unable to do so yourself:Quote:
1. I said: "As for the commandline recommendation, everyone who recommended it needs a bonk on the head."
2. MsMittens wrote "Best one I know of is the default FTP commandline program. :)"
What this means is, YES, I think MsMittens is equally deserving of a bonk on the head for recommending the commandline client to someone asking specifically about GUI clients. I'm quite sure MsMittens is mature enough to deal with such criticisms...
Your joke wasn't funny, or even remotely humorous. Especially since you posted multiple times.Quote:
This was directed to White Scorpion on a joking tone. Sorry that I didn't adorn the end of the sentence of similies so you guys wouldn't freak :rolleyes: I didn't know everyone here was on such a serious stance, especially with me...pffff!
So because the guy obviously dislikes it, you should tell him to use it anyway? Which is more closed minded: "Someone else's way works for them", or "My way is the best way"?Quote:
This was directed to this comment because I took it as close minded:
Perhaps a complete failure on your part to grasp the concept that what to you is not a 'bad thing' might be to many others. I can tell from the tone of your posts you've done very little tech support work. Perhaps in the future instead of replying with your ideas on what the person is doing wrong, you should approach it from the standpoint that the poster really does know what they want to use, and your suggestions contrary to that are probably unwelcome.Quote:
I was simply just trying to get across that the command line was/is not a 'bad thing' and should not be tossed aside in opitions. Yes it was blunt but hey thats me....
I've only used FileZilla of the listed programs, and it is likeable. You can set transfer limits based on time (throttle at preset times) and I have found that helpful at times. My main peeve with it is getting it to use a single connection. Usually it tries to open up multiple connections to speed up transfers, but some servers only accept a single connection from an IP, and for some reason FileZilla will always override the single-connection settings when you give it more files to process. Other than that I like it, and of course resuming downloads is nice.
Also, I think FileZilla can be configured to use an XML file to save settings instead of the registry. I don't remember for sure, but I think that is possible.
(I have found use for the included command-line FTP client for my friends who only have Dial-Up without a LAN connection profile setup. Windows *only* associates outgoing connections with the 56K Modem, pretty much no matter what network settings and devices I add/delete/change/select/et al., and getting it to use an Ethernet Card is a serious PITA. Luckily the Console FTP client doesn't default to the dumb Internet Explorer Connection Settings that are impossible to change and used by nearly everything else...)
well, it is not like command line IS more powerful, but the most powerful programs are written for the commandline (you could as well write them with a gui though).Quote:
That's bull... may have been true in the Windows 95-days, but not anymore. Show me one thing that proves that a command line has more power than a GUI...
chsh negged me for the fact that i stated that,
but i never said that GUI couldn't be powerful:
i think it is by choice.. if i look at myself i write programs for their functionality, not for how it looks...so the result is commandline....Quote:
the most powerful programs are written for the commandline
Neg, indeed i also use SmartFtp cause in the case you need to copy a complete directory it is faster... what i meant was that the program itself is faster, not necessarely the usage of the program..
a textbased program runs faster then the same program with a gui no matter what, simply because building a gui takes time and more code.. there is nothing you can do about this....
Yes, Filezilla has good recommendations, characters. The only some things is unclear, i.e. how many registry entries it write, does it install all files into its own directory, do not replace any system dlls.
then why don't you install it while running Filemon and Regmon from www.sysinternals.com? this will show you what it is using for registry keys and which files it is using...
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Originally posted here by Tim_axe
Also, I think FileZilla can be configured to use an XML file to save settings instead of the registry. I don't remember for sure, but I think that is possible.
Actually, I used to run FZ at school off my USB hard drive because from what I saw it was one of the only clients that seems to only write its location into the registry. I say this because when I moved the drive to other machines (logged in under different accounts as well) it started up and worked fine, and still remembered all my server info. This also leads me to conclude that it doesn't install any DLLs outside its own directory.Quote:
Originally posted here by taurus5
Yes, Filezilla has good recommendations, characters. The only some things is unclear, i.e. how many registry entries it write, does it install all files into its own directory, do not replace any system dlls.
There are two Filezilla packages available - .exe installer and zip( binaries). What is preferable use in 'standard' PC? Also, one questionable moment is that installer has rather big size 4.36Mb, compare with others ftp clients.
I'd prefer use lightweight, clean tool, that install less files.