Does anyone know a link to what characters are acceptable and what are acceptable starting characters?
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Does anyone know a link to what characters are acceptable and what are acceptable starting characters?
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d...sword_tips.asp
The first link provided bygoogle you should find this helpfull.
thanx for the valid character set but what i'm looking for specificaly is what are valid characters for the first character in the password
sometime's you can use the whole character set for the pwd but only letters and numbers for the starting character
i think this might be cause of the original problem which i posted in this thread
http://www.antionline.com/showthread...177#post817177
Okay unhappy but at the same time that is the site that is going to have any information you need. All you have to do is look for it. Its straight from the manufacturer. Or do you want us to do ALL of the work for you?
no i don't ...
and i did look for it... and google for it ... so just forget it
I'm pretty sure for the password you can use any supported character for the first or any position in the password. Usually it's only usernames that give you trouble about using weird things for the first character. If it doesn't like what you have in mind, it will tell you. Good luck ;), you're gonna need it :p.
Well,
It seems that you are talking about Windows operating system passwords. As far as I know all the keyboard-visible characters are acceptable as a first character in a password. I can certainly vouch for £$€#~&^, but I don't recall using any others. This is consistent with general Microsoft practice where a character is either illegal, or you can do what you like with it. There may well be exceptions to that, but none that immediately come to mind.
I have not tried using any of the special characters, so I cannot comment on them. I am given to understand that you can use them, but that is only hearsay, and I don't know if there are any restrictions.
I have seen some very peculiar things with applications passwords, and I have no idea about passwords in the 9x operating systems; but I know we are talking NT based here, so that is irrelevant :)
What was the first character you used? If you like I can test it on Win2000 pro and XP Pro by just setting up another user account. Just let me know which ones you want trying :)
/me looks for his € key...
hes british, its the thigny for the pound.
I would think that any visible character on the keyboard is acceptable cause thats why its there. lol
actualy the goofy looking c isnt the symbol for the pund. that would be the goofy looking l
now i feel like a dumbass :( then what does that funny e thingy mean?
the e is for euro if im not mistaken...you know the standard money for the european union.
I have used alt-333 in a password before. It's nice because most kiddies don't look for a "Clubs" as the password character. You can experiment with the alt-number sequences. I created a program that uses random nimber 16 bytes that picks out of the 128 ascii set. I know there are more to use but not sure how windows will handle it.
this is weird because my problem (i already mentioned the original thread) started w/ changing of a admin password on windows 2000 system w/ a password that begun w "@" character. after that the system refused to automatically log on the admin at the start. i also used $, %, & in the body of a password. any ideas... this was BEFORE the "computer" name was changed
all this led to my father loosing all his bussines data because of encryption... but i repeat myself
Well IMHO its a realy bad idea to auto log on to any account much less an administrator account. I dont even use my admin acount unless something major comes up or if i need to run updates.
that is besides the point ... this system was a stand-alone and old (therefore it booted slow and every subsequent logon would only waste everyone's time) it was NOT NECESSARY to enforce user logon.
the problems were as follows
1. there was only one account ... admin
2. the problem was that someone turned on encryption by mistake (probably my father since he won't listen to anyone's advice)
3. the system refused to auto logon ... so your observation has no merrit since you can, after auto logon failure, log on manually and that didn't work either
i am just curious what the **** was Windows' 2000 problem w/ the password and i cannot find anything on the net
if you are curious .. the actual password was "@green$CAT%74&" why would system not accept this if it remmebered correct amount of asterix in it's own password window
encryption or not I would have used a program to reset the password, which should have still allowed access to the files that were on the computer. I believe the windows 2k disk even comes with a program that you can use that will do that. just my 2 cents.
The only thing I can think of it that the password was changed. You didnt say if you set up the autologon by hand or if you used a tool like tweak. As you said if the problem was just with the autologon then you could just use the manuel log on and not loose any of the data. I know that windows has no problem with special characters normally but i use autologon only when I have a large number of computers to deploy where there is a need to reboot. Having said that i have a poste here that i can test your password on. I will let you know what happens.
Hi unhappy,
I just tried that password and it works just fine.
Is the user ID "admin" or "Administrator"?, it should be the second one.
BTW
€ is the Euro symbol
£ is the Pound Sterling (GBP)
EDIT:
This link may be of interest?
http://www.securityconfig.com/softwa...dows_2000.html
And if you have $199, this may help:
http://www.elcomsoft.com/aefsdr.html
Interesting - I have a Sony Vaio which doesn't have a numeric keypad. There are small numbers on keys M, J,K,L,U,I,O,7,8,9 (0 - 9 respectively), along with other small characters on some of the other keys. I hoped that they would allow me to use ALT-Fn to invoke them. I tried the combination in Word 2003 - nothing. I tried <ALT-Fn L> in notepad and it gave me a <Heart> whilst <ALT-Fn U>, <ALT-Fn I> and <ALT-Fn O> gives other card suit characters.Quote:
Originally posted here by lucktsm
I have used alt-333 in a password before. It's nice because most kiddies don't look for a "Clubs" as the password character. You can experiment with the alt-number sequences. I created a program that uses random nimber 16 bytes that picks out of the 128 ascii set. I know there are more to use but not sure how windows will handle it.
Any idea how I can use ALT in combination as suggested originally (other than using an external keypad!)?
To MURACU... the problem was w/ auto logon and manual logon ... basically the new password simply wasn't being accepted
I have used the "Linux floppy ".... in don't know the link or the name of the project but it's THE one... THE one that is supposed to reset your password to whatever you specify... actually that was the first thing that I tried and the process was completed fine... BUT the next reboot refused to auto logon and manual logon again... W/ THE SAME AMOUNT OF ASTERIXS like the password that it was changed to... so even that the process seemed to complete successfully, in reality it didn't do anything. I think that it was because the encryption was turned on and the Linux disk somehow mangled the data.
nihil ... I did try the tool you suggested but it could only find partial keys and SID's. On top of that when I added the disk to a new system the windows could only see mangled user (yes it was "Administrator" sorry for the confusion... just trying to abrv.) and SID of as the owner of the files on that disk... so that went to hell as well.
So basically it really comes down to why the system wasn't loggin' on after the change of the pwd.
This is a big lesson for me on the proper recovery technique. I just kept going by the instinct and by the time I realized that there was encryption in play it was too late. Thank you for all your observations guys. I wasn’t trying to “make you do it for me”. I am still looking into it and have the messed-up disk in original form. I would try to post the files but they cannot be lifted of the disk AT ALL, not even from Linux or NetBSD.
I think that the first important lesson is. Don’t rush and try to inject hashes into Windows registry w/ other OS’s before you do your research.
Keep the conversation going. There’s still the original problem of “non-logon”.
OK, I believe that somehow things got corrupted................this does happen! which is why there are all these papers and stuff about how to set up a recovery console.
If you want to do a bit of research yourself, try a google search for:
Windows EFS
EFS Recovery
Windows Encryption
And so on......................................it is an interesting topic that a lot of people are not that aware of.
The Linux boot CD should let you set the password to blanks, and create a new Administrator account. You might use the new Administrator account to take over ownership of the files?
Probably because you also changed the computer name?.............that changes the Administrator's SSID.Quote:
So basically it really comes down to why the system wasn't loggin' on after the change of the pwd.
I believe that you will either have to set up a recovery console (machine) yourself, or get a professional recovery company.
cheers