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"Semi-intimate pictures with her husband", threesomes, "favors",... I thought that that post didn't belong in Cosmos when I first saw it...
You could have sent me or MsMittens a PM about the post being closed (I closed it), and you could have sent Nihil a PM about his AP assignment(s).
So, to make a long story short :Quote:
I have a friend that posted some of her pics on a server of an online community.
If the 'problem' hadn't happened, then your friend would have been happy to have left the pix in the public domain ?
But, now there IS a 'problem', they are NOT happy wih the pix being where they were originally ??????
Is it me ? or is this just wasting 1's and 0's ?
When you're friends with a slut who takes pics like that AND uploads them to a site, you should already be expecting something like this to happen. You can prevent this kind of thing from happening of course. All you have to do is quit hanging out with net sluts who get nakie online and then complain when someone sees it.
Some people who were writing PLA **** have done similar things like this which in real life would be harrassment.... But online.... It's not like HE uploaded the pics, or took them, or went up to a cyber hoe and said "Hey **** your BF on tape for me".
So in other words:
Deal with it.
That site is full of stoned naked chicks. The site owner is apparently a complete ********. He even saved the files with their names in the title.
After much ridicule and criticism for a "useless post" and for associating with naked chics that are brainless enough to post their pics on public websites and forums, I edited my complaint and basically realized that this group is too elite to worry about idiots that aquaintanize such company. This is not really a "friend" of mine, just someone who is on my email list and a forum member of another forum I visit. I just ran my mouth too soon saying that I could take care of this kid, then after sobering up, I realized it was not worth the danger of cracking his site and taking the pics off myself. So, here we are back at the beginning. I don't know if AO members are just taking the opportunity to be hard on me for this one, or if it was just a really stupid move on my part. I hope I can gain what credibility I lost and add it back to what little credibility I have..... If that is ok with nihilm.
The problem is, the site is full of ****tards. Even if you did crack the site, the guy is an idiot if he doesn't have his site backed up and versions burned to a CD. And face it, in life if you give something to a ****tard, don't expect him or her to respect you back. Why, because he or she is a ****tard.
//EDIT Oh and there are some VERY smart people who frequent AO. Sometimes the combined talent here is amazing. Now I would wager that 50-60 percent of those who saw this forum went to that site, found many public folders and already have a copy anyway.
Grabbed mine last night while I ran to the store ;)
That poses another question (on your theory that 50 to 60 percent visited the site).
Do you assume that anyone from AO analyzed the security of the site?
I have often wondered, but have been too afraid to ask, it is kosher or non-kosher to say "hey. check this site out..... It's like swiss cheese"....
I'd say they were being hard on you for doing the really stupid move :)Quote:
I don't know if AO members are just taking the opportunity to be hard on me for this one, or if it was just a really stupid move on my part.
Move on :
Next time :
Stop :
Think :
RUN : :D
maybe its just me, but despite the subject matter of the problem, i was under the impression that the question was about what legal steps he could do to get it removed? does that not belong here?
That is exactly what my question was about, and that is exactly why I was inquiring why that would not belong here.Quote:
Originally posted here by Worm Wood
maybe its just me, but despite the subject matter of the problem, i was under the impression that the question was about what legal steps he could do to get it removed? does that not belong here?
Unless someone has written permission, I would imagine that the more ethical types don't do this.Quote:
I have often wondered, but have been too afraid to ask, it is kosher or non-kosher to say "hey. check this site out..... It's like swiss cheese"....
No it didn't belong here. The question asked was for help, not a theoretical discussion on the morals of something. Cosmos was meant to be a place to get into heated political debates (laws), philosphical or moral debates. The key here is DEBATE. Many members come here to "hide", if you will, from the "help me" of the rest of the forum. I suspect that many members weren't pleased to see the post there. Neg did you a favour to a degree by closing that thread before it got out of hand.Quote:
maybe its just me, but despite the subject matter of the problem, i was under the impression that the question was about what legal steps he could do to get it removed? does that not belong here?
Seriously, in the future, if a thread is closed and you're not sure why, send a note to a mod (Negative or myself are the board-wide mods). We can explain why or re-open it with whatever fixes are needed (in your case, moving the thread to GCC would have been beneficial and/or starting a new thread, with a link identifying the old one, and re-presenting the info so that people can respond better).
Lastly, in regards to this kind of question: AO get's scammed more times than I can count by social engineers. It's made a few members cynical in their response and, honestly, I don't blame them. It's hard to know if you really are helping someone legit or whether someone is just yanking your chain for jollies.
Additionally, the way it was presented doesn't lend itself easily to helping (I've had to read it 4 times to figure out what it is you really want!). Breaking it into sentence chunks and, I know it's hard, removing your emotion from it would be helpful. That said...
In regards to your original post:
1. They should have offered to re-imburse him for his tickets (this would have avoided the pissed off-ness from him and might have avoided this whole problem)
2. They should check local laws on harassment. This might (and would certainly be interesting) "prove-able" if forum admins are willing to present evidence (that is, the IDs of those "harassing" her
3. They should get a cyber lawyer (someone who specialises in internet related activities) to do a "Cease and desist" order. If there was never intentions to have pictures published and no contract that said that he could, it'll be hard to prove verbal when it's 2 against 1.
4. They need to learn restraint on what they send out to someone they don't know. I'm not surprised he reacted the way he did and that's why they are responsible for point 1.
5. His comments, Oh and posting my personal information is a violation of the rules here. And that's nothing a reverse DNS couldn't reveal. are contradictory to each other. His information is public knowledge thanks to WHOIS standards. If however you were to publish the private information of one of the schmucks that harassed the girl, then that would be different.
The only way you're going to force him, IMO, to remove the pictures is through contract law. If he didn't have a contract to upload the pictures, even if they did send them to him but never gave permission (did they say in an email he could do whatever he wants with them?) they have a chance.
You also might want to remind these people the importance of being careful online. This guy is annoying. He could have been worse (serial killer). They should publish on their own what they want out and don't forward it to someone else.
HTH
Thank you very much for the reply MsM. I will follows AO's guidelines for posting more closely in the future.
Thanks :)