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Hello all-
I have been trying to figure out, but due to lack of caffeine at the moment, my brain is not linking up. I have seen a few people that have been "banned" but still had positive APs, in fact a few of them had quite a few APs built up. I was wondering are those who are banned, include those whose "resigned" their userid or something else?
Just curious .
TIA.
Well the trolls and deviants are easily figured out. But those you are referring to, some asked to be banned and others failed to comply with the guidelines.
banned does mean loose all AP. A Lot of ppl here ask for banning for several reasons.
I think that moderators will give you more info, but in my opinion, no matter how much positive antipoints you have, if you do something bad (violate rules of the antionline.com) you get banned. Moderators (or whoever is in charge with banning people) don't have to strip down your points in order to ban you.
Am I right?
http://www.antionline.com/faq/faq.phpQuote:
Why are some members banned when they have 11 greenies?
Answer: Having 11 greenies does not protect you from being banned. It does give you some kind of protection from being banned through negative AntiPoints assigned by other users (since it would take a huge amount of negative assignments). However, regardless of the number of AntiPoints you accumulate, you can still be banned by moderators or administrators.
Banned users with 11 green dots therefore have been banned by moderators or administrators.
Great thanks for the information and the link!
[edit] I missed that link somehow in my seach for the answer to my question, but it that question and a lot of my admin questions about the community - thanks again Relyt![/edit]
Glad to help. This is a great community that is willing to help and share information about security and any other topic related to computers and networks.
cheers
Personally I don't understand the concept of why anyone would ask to be banned...why not just leave and don't come back...or, delete your info and don't come back...banning I understand, and there has been questions raised before about whether or those who asked to be banned should get a different designation, but if you ask to be banned I don't see why it would be necessary to distinguish one from the other.
The solution is...for those who want to leave but don't want to fall into the category of the banned, don't ask to be banned, just leave.
Seems more sensible to me...that way...if they at some point change their mind as some do they can return to where they left off.
You don't have an option to delete an account. Only an admin can do that. I think for some, if the account is live they'll be tempted. And getting it banned makes it easier for them to leave. Some will deliberately do something so they can get "banned with a bang" so to speak.Quote:
or, delete your info and don't come back.
Hi MsMittens,
That sounds an awful lot like the guy who gets the police to shoot him because he's too scared to do it himself.
You mean to tell me that some people are sooo addicted that they can't leave on their own accord and just walk away but must have someone pushing them out the door to make it happen....I don't know if that's sad or pitiful or both.
There's only one thing in my life I couldn't just walk away from...my kids.
Eg
E-yup.Quote:
You mean to tell me that some people are sooo addicted that they can't leave on their own accord and just walk away but must have someone pushing them out the door to make it happen....I don't know if that's sad or pitiful or both.
Welcome to the Internet. This kind of activity is far more prevalent than you'd imagine.
After reading through the FAQs, I would be curious as to what people with numerous APs did to get banned; most likely a JupM policy violation. As part of the FAQs - which are most helpful BTW - if it would be useful just to know what people did to get themselves banned - obviously kept anonymous, just to make sure people know what to watch out for. Of course they could just read the policies and know, but I was just thinking of another way of policy reinforcement -- well that and I am curious what/why people did what they did to get banned. Morbid curiousity I guess - well that and I'm and auditor; yeah that's the ticket.
KuiXing,
I think you're question has already been answered...if you're looking for specifics I doubt anyone is going to give them to you...for one thing it's really none of our business...and secondly, this is not a gossip room...no offense intended but to hash over people's indiscretions and put them on public display is not appropriate...in my opinion.
Eg
For some bannings, we have made it public. For others, because it was a request of the user to leave we haven't. If you look around we'll state usually why. The most common one that comes to mind is what is referred to as AP Abuse and multiple accounts.
I'm sorry MsMittens but I fail to see the purpose of giving out specific information on these sorts of things...
non-specific information such as what someone did to be banned, without naming names, sure...
but to single people out " name names " as they say, and do the he said she said, he did and she did, hair salon gossip thing...I just don't see the point.
Eg :)
Because if we put our reason forward it's a little more direct than people getting it from the "gossip salon".
Maybe I'm just not understanding correctly...
To me it is just as easy to say " a person was banned because..." general information
as to say..." billybob was banned because..." specific information
I don't see any purpose other than retribution or an attempt to embarass the person banned to give out specific information.
Eg :)
Well, it becomes rather obvious who was banned if I say "a person was banned because..." . Usually we get people asking and it appears on the banned list. It's kinda hard to hide.. ;)
Well...I suppose you could guess...the list usually has a few people on it...maybe I'm just particular...I've always been the guy everyone comes to with their problems because they know it never goes beyond me...so naturally I am opposed to airing " dirty laundry " in public...to me it's gossip.
Eg :)
Well lets see... more than once I have posted-up personal information about people, I've attached malware in threads and personal messages without giving warning as to its content, I used to assign AP with other people's user names and watch dozens of members gang up on others, I remember that once or twice I abused a bug which allowed me to prevent others from further posting in threads which I thought where worthy of being closed.Quote:
After reading through the FAQs, I would be curious as to what people with numerous APs did to get banned; most likely a JupM policy violation. As part of the FAQs - which are most helpful BTW - if it would be useful just to know what people did to get themselves banned - obviously kept anonymous, just to make sure people know what to watch out for.
In the end I was banned for some petty stuff, double accounts to be exact. If it ain't that then people mostly get banned for AP abuse.
The Specialist,
Question: if all it takes to get banned is having more than one account...then why is Ladybug/tinkerbell69 not banned...neither account is disabled and neither says under member status: banned.
Or is banning for double memberships at the discretion of the mods and administrators ?
I wasn't aware that they were the same person. Neg and I will look into it. Thanks.Quote:
then why is Ladybug/tinkerbell69 not banned...neither account is disabled and neither says under member status: banned.
Hmm leme answer this one,well i just had a account and i got my self banned ,as i got into negative ****.people like me, try to make a fresh start and ask to be get banned .but some people like memory grt them self banned for fun....(strange but true) he has 4-5 accounts( copyright )may be they get the kick out of it !!
Um yeah i only have this account now. Maybe another back-up one :p
Im sorry what ? Did you mean to say " Maybe he gets a kick out of it ?"Quote:
but some people like memory grt them self banned for fun....(strange but true) he has 4-5 accounts( copyright )may be they get the kick out of it !!
MsMittens,
Apparently tinkerbell69 doesn't have access to her old account...not because she was banned or disabled...but because she simply doesn't remember her old password and no longer has that e-mail address. Both accounts are still active but she can't access one...
It doesn't matter to me anyways...I was just responding to Specialists claim that double accounts is cause for banning.Quote:
BTW, you wanna do some real work, get me access to my old account because i can't seem to find my old password and I don't have access to my old email anymore... or maybe you decide you gotta ban me altogether. Let's see. Au revoir!
Truly Yours,
Ladybug.
Eg
I think the multiple accounts/AP abuse has more to do with giving yourself AP's from dummy accounts, or perhaps using two accounts to neg someone, harrass, etc. It refer's to someone circumventing the restrictions placed on users accounts (for example, the waiting period after assigning AP's before you can assign more to the same person).
Hi zencoder,
You know...that never even crossed my mind...
that would explain the reason why someone would have multiple accounts. I was trying to figure out the reasoning behind it.Quote:
giving yourself AP's from dummy accounts,
Thanks,
Eg :)
Well, I guess AO should review the RULES regarding multiple accounts. As far as I can understand, multiple accounts were prohibited.
If you have a problem with your account, you have to report it somehow to AO Admins/Moderators. The question is “how can someone report problems to AO if he/she could not access such account?”. Please STRETCHOUT the details on this issue.
Exactly how will an AO Admin/Moderator should handle such case like the above?Quote:
BTW, you wanna do some real work, get me access to my old account because i can't seem to find my old password and I don't have access to my old email anymore... or maybe you decide you gotta ban me altogether. Let's see. Au revoir!
Truly Yours,
Ladybug.
That’s why in my case, when I messed-up with my account few days ago, something to do with the cache settings because the provider here uses MULTIPLE proxies (which during the time that I change my settings, I haven’t read the FAQ about it). After changing the settings, I could not logon to AO. I could not even report the incident myself to AO. That’s why I seek assistance from a friend and ask him if he want to join AO and check out the community. After creating his account, I also ask him to report my situation. The Admins/Moderators were helpful enough and by explaining the situation clearly to them, changed my settings back to the original for me to access my account again. Voila! Here I am again.
Thanks TesTDrivE!
I AM VERY SORRY FOR SOMEWHAT BEING OFF-TOPIC.
Yo!
Do people get banned due to using bad language,or due to threatening newbies,making a mess of a nice discussion,abusing peoples(newbies to be speific) and a lot more of those tactics used by TheSpecialist?Quote:
Originally posted here by TheSpecialist
Well lets see... more than once I have posted-up personal information about people, I've attached malware in threads and personal messages without giving warning as to its content, I used to assign AP with other people's user names and watch dozens of members gang up on others, I remember that once or twice I abused a bug which allowed me to prevent others from further posting in threads which I thought where worthy of being closed.
In the end I was banned for some petty stuff, double accounts to be exact. If it ain't that then people mostly get banned for AP abuse.
The answer i suppose is no.
But why?
BTW TheSpecialist No offence meant .....just curious.
Umm sorry - didn't mean for this to spill over the way it did, I was mostly curious as to why people got banned - mainly because so I made a mental note NOT to execute the offending action(s). Meaning that while there are the known and written rules, I know there are always the unwritten rules and implicit expectations.
Egaladeist:
Thanks for that, but I would not care to know who did what - just the actual offending action or material, so I know how to better carry and represent myself. Most of it is common sense, I just neeed to "trust - but - verify".Quote:
I think you're question has already been answered...if you're looking for specifics I doubt anyone is going to give them to you...for one thing it's really none of our business...and secondly, this is not a gossip room...no offense intended but to hash over people's indiscretions and put them on public display is not appropriate...in my opinion.
Thanks to The Specialist for the below:
Finally - thanks to everyone else for the great information from everyone - it's helping out a lot!Quote:
Well lets see... more than once I have posted-up personal information about people, I've attached malware in threads and personal messages without giving warning as to its content, I used to assign AP with other people's user names and watch dozens of members gang up on others, I remember that once or twice I abused a bug which allowed me to prevent others from further posting in threads which I thought where worthy of being closed.
Hey KuiXing nice spirit keep it up.Quote:
Originally posted here by KuiXing-2005
Umm sorry - didn't mean for this to spill over the way it did, I was mostly curious as to why people got banned - mainly because so I made a mental note NOT to execute the offending action(s).