guys howzit i just want somebody to tell me how do i enter through a system using novell 4.9 and access all the servers connected to the network. cause somebody told me about a console 1..3.6 and a noveel sp 2
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guys howzit i just want somebody to tell me how do i enter through a system using novell 4.9 and access all the servers connected to the network. cause somebody told me about a console 1..3.6 and a noveel sp 2
yo ,zup.
Well first you log in, and then depending on the rights of your account you get to access certain files directories and servers. Sometimes you can even change rights and stuff.Quote:
enter through a system using novell 4.9 and access all the servers connected to the network
So you want to log in on a novell network because someone told you about console 1..3.6 and a noveel sp 2. Okay. Guess i cant really say a lot about that.Quote:
cause somebody told me about a console 1..3.6 and a noveel sp 2
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Well at least he isnt trying to do social engineering.
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XTC46: What are you trying to do!? Make me go cross eyed first thing this morning!
Oh, by the way. There is no spoon.
sorry phish...its not even 2am here, lol still night time for me.
[quote]Oh, by the way. There is no spoon.[/spoon]
Get with the program. It's
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Folks, I still wonder why most people want to be black hats .... Why all people want to break into other's system and manipulate files... breaching privacy ... vandalize ,,, causing sabotage ... are they devoured by an overhelming ambition twoard benig system crackers...
Are they having an instinct feeling to annihilate and compromise systems?? Seriously guys ... and why we don't ....
sgebengu, if you wanna HACK with novell, let's pray ....
Oh God!
May you give me the piece of mind to use Novell to HACK!
May you give me the luck to find ill-configured server to breach!
May you blind the eyes of ISP, just to give me more chances to learn!
May you stupify all the sysadmins so no one would detect my breach!
loudly AMEN guys! ;)
As I recall, that particular exploit does not work with that particular version of Novell Networking anyway :D
I know the one of how to take over the servers..............a completely different issue ;)
I have heard that there are problems with Consoleone 1.3.6 and NN 6.5 SP2...............but only if you are running Zenworks 4.1.............and that isn't an exploit, it just doesn't bloody work!
Given the guy's location I would suggest he takes an asegai to them :D
Did some consulting a while back.
Consoleone 1.3.6
ZenWorks ?.?.?
AD
Logged on as admin....
Insufficient access!
Tons of errors trying to repair a bad install. *Cough*Global *cough* Services *cough* *cough*
/me = l4m3r for I was not l337 Should have used BC's Prayer
Becasue there is very little public recognition to "white hats". When you break something big you are famous. when you prevent something big from being broken in to you are just doing your job. That and it sounds much cooler to friends when you say "I hacked <company> last ngiht" then it would to say "last night I didnt get hacked". so recognition is probably a driving factor.Quote:
Originally posted here by Black Cluster
Folks, I still wonder why most people want to be black hats .... Why all people want to break into other's system and manipulate files... breaching privacy ... vandalize ,,, causing sabotage ... are they devoured by an overhelming ambition twoard benig system crackers...
Are they having an instinct feeling to annihilate and compromise systems?? Seriously guys ... and why we don't ....
dinowuff
"Did some consulting a while back.
Consoleone 1.3.6
ZenWorks ?.?.?
AD"
WTF are you saying................care to elaborate in English? :D
Nihil:
In short, I had the pleasure of working with Consoleone 1.3.6, installed on a network hodpodge consiting of Novel, Unix and Windows, spending many days and nights reading and googling.
Most everything I learned about Consoleone and what others said about it at the time..
Brought back memories.Quote:
I have heard that there are problems with Consoleone 1.3.6 and NN 6.5 SP2...............but only if you are running Zenworks 4.1.............and that isn't an exploit, it just doesn't bloody work!
In the end the network was "Usable"
Hey!
That is excellent! I was talking to a pal a couple or three weeks ago and he was bemoaning his problems................me, I haven't done any of that Novell stuff since around 3.something...............at least 5 years.
What were the problems..........in plain English again :D my mate is even thicker than I am:confused:
He has 6.5 SP2, consoleone 1.3.6 and Zenworks 4.1
What was it?, what did you do?
Cheers
I say that every morning after checking the logs..... Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.... ;)Quote:
"last night I didnt get hacked"
As to the OP.... If you want a challenge try defending systems with something of value in them.... It's far more challenging than attacking the systems of people who are defenseless.... trust me....
A lot depends on how and who deploys the product. We have been running Netware 6 with ZEN with XP clients for years on one site. Works like a charm.Quote:
Originally posted here by nihil
Hey!
That is excellent! I was talking to a pal a couple or three weeks ago and he was bemoaning his problems................me, I haven't done any of that Novell stuff since around 3.something...............at least 5 years.
What were the problems..........in plain English again :D my mate is even thicker than I am:confused:
He has 6.5 SP2, consoleone 1.3.6 and Zenworks 4.1
What was it?, what did you do?
Cheers
What I might add is this. It also depends what you are trying to make the product do. What I mean is, if you are trying to make Netware w/ NDS & ZEN do all the fancy stuff that MS AD can do with WinXP clients - then you might be in for some long nights. You need to accept what the product is and the way it does things.
We have seen some shops trying to get AD fuctionality out of a non-MS product (in some cases Novell products) in the hopes that they will get better stability & security than if they actually deployed the MS product they wanted to in the first place.
What I always say, if your top prioroty is to deploy MS APPS efficiently MS clients - then go with AD and learn how to do it as best as possible.
also, to OP: A properly secured and patched Netware server is much hard to break into than an MS sever in same state. Don't be fooled.
your post was decent until that line. How is it possible for two things to be "properly secured" and then one be easier to break in to. If you "properly secure" a MS box it is no easier to break into than any other os.Quote:
also, to OP: A properly secured and patched Netware server is much hard to break into than an MS sever in same state. Don't be fooled.
Nihil:
The best way to describe the problem(s)...
It started with Netscape email users authentication problems. Company had 2000 AD installed and migrated SOME user accounts. So there was a LDAP issue.
Throw into the mix a Home grown ERP type (best way to describe the software) Unix base Application. Users authenticated to the network via Novel, then to Windows. If they needed to use the ERP system. So I guess the best way to describe this issue would be a Trust relationship - except all in the same domain. I really can't explain how screwed up the configuration was. BUT looking back, that was the most secure network I'd ever seen. No one, AND I MEAN NO ONE could access mission critical data! :-)
Other issues: DNS, Oh yea - the 2000 controller (only one) was installed in Native Mode. The previous Novel admin had configured ZenWorks in such a way that only he knew how anything worked. If I remember correctly there were about 12 major configuration issues.
What I did:
Called a Novel Expert! He reconfigured zenworks and removed Consoleone. Patched and re patched the OS and upgraded Novel Clients. (Through out the company he found 9 various versions of the Novel Client software) Makes you wonder if the previous admin knew how to use zenworks.
I migrated users to 2000 domain, and installed exchange. Not my preference for that environment; however, it's what the client wanted. At least it wasn't Netscape mail!
Then after users could actually log onto the LAN and access the file/print servers and their email I Addressed the Unix issue the best I could. HP UNIX btw, which I could not get the client to replace. Which is why, on this project, I refer to myself as
So much was, and still is, wrong with that network that I could only suggest the client start over. I mapped out the project gave them a statement of work, never heard from them again. I did run into a former employee a few months after I left. She said that the new IT manager was hiring college interns to fix the Network and that things got worse by the day about a month after I left. To the point that users had a 50/50 chance of being able to log on in the morning.Quote:
/me = l4m3r for I was not l337
I don't know - but I personally think it is. A properly secured Unix based system is more secure than a properly secured NT based system. But it is debatable. :-)Quote:
Originally posted here by XTC46
your post was decent until that line. How is it possible for two things to be "properly secured" and then one be easier to break in to. If you "properly secure" a MS box it is no easier to break into than any other os.
if it is properly secure it means that it cant be broken into without an unknown exploit. The lilklyhood of an unknown exploit is the same no matter which os you use. windows one just appear to have more becasue more people look for them.Quote:
I don't know - but I personally think it is. A properly secured Unix based system is more secure than a properly secured NT based system. But it is debatable. :-)
I'm just curious after reading through some of the junk posted here... Zenworks... Zero Effort Networking works.... what's there to really know? Has Novell really screwed that up too? (It worked nicely back in the days of netware 5)
I'm quite impressed that the thread is still rolling on, is reading as 'extremely positive'.
Yet the OP has been BANNED [full house of red] and it was their first post :eek:
Simple really... the content is interesting, the OP was a ****wit.... No brainer really... ;)Quote:
I'm quite impressed that the thread is still rolling on, is reading as 'extremely positive'.