Xbox VS Computer

All the gamers out there I have a question:

How come.... OK my cousin has an Xbox with Doom 3, he says that he can play it and it doesn't lag and doesn't load anything and it's on high graphics, yet my 128 MB Nvidia GeForce FX card, on a medium graphics setting in Doom 3, lags a bit.

It makes game play kind of hard, but how in the hell is an Xbox better? What kind of video do they have stuffed in there? Or is he just lying his ass to me so I feel shitty about it?

I don't have or want an Xbox. But I would like some information on how this is even possible with something that costs about the same price as my video card. Comments?

Is it that Xbox maybe has a smaller screen reolution and lower graphics quality?

I would think a computer would be able to whip a hole into an Xbox.... Nvidia has a new card coming out and it's hard to think something like that would be lesser quality than an Xbox.

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Is it that Xbox maybe has a smaller screen reolution and lower graphics quality?

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There is your answer.. The X-Box outputs at the Local TV Resolution approx 480x320 While your PC is probably attempting a miserly 1024x768.. a massive difference in pixels to address..
also the X-Box is both hardware and software optomised for games (Duh - added for the looken peepers)..

best quick guide.. is that the info your looking for..

cheers

X-Box games are console games, and are a 'lesser' quality game. [IMHO]
there are a number of games that have been 'ported' from console to PC, and the result is always a poor quality game for the PC.

It's why when I'm considering a new game, I check it is a PC designed game, or at the very least, that the media have given it a thumbs up for the game-play.

HTH

I'm playing Doom3 on XBox right now... game play is fantastic (I've never seen an XBox lag on anything, btw). I've never seen Doom3 on the PC, so I can't compare the graphics quality... no computer beats a 60-inch flat screen, though :D

Hi Gore,

Yes the PC is designed to be a PC and the X-Box to be a game console. It is possibly more astounding that they can almost do the same things?

Because of the TV resolution, the X-Box seems to do well, but please remember that a lot of this is perception, not empirical measurement. Mostly you watch sport/news or whatever on TV.............it is scanning at 625 lines or whatever in your country.............there are atmospherics, shadows from tall structures etc. In other words the reception is pretty crap. Then you attach an X-Box and it compares brilliantly.

Try comparing them using a good quality DVD...............then run that DVD on your PC and on a TV with a similar screen size.

A PC with a decent graphics card will win ;)

Basically the X-Box is not having to do as much work...............it is only driving a TV..............?

Another test.............hook up the TV to the PC and compare results :cool:

Anyways, would you want to do CAD or photo editing on an X-Box?

It is "horses for courses mate, plus the fact that you really do need a side by side direct comparison.

Cheers

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a 60-inch flat screen

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Jeez :
That's not a TV .........

That's a DOOR :D

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no computer beats a 60-inch flat screen, though

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Bastard.... :)

Eyeing off a 42" Plasma.. just right for HL-2.. .. but Mrs Undies has a problem with PC's outside my Lab.. gotta boost the range of the cordless kbd and mouse..oh and a remote "****it"button (we are talking windaz)

BTW: many of the HD screens are only capable of 1280 x 768 yet to see (in OZ) specs above this. Seeing as this corresponds with the 720p (why would you want 1080i - or only 540 vertical lines of resolution)

1. 640x480 reso
2. Graphics programing is SPECIFICALLY designed for the xbox proccesor and GPU, so the code flies compared to the HUGE amounts of graphics programming that you're card has to sift through, as the code has to be generalized enough that all supported cards work.

I was thinking somewhere along these lines but explaining that to him is damn near impossible. So I guess I should save up some cash, grab that Nvidia GeForce FX 6800 Ultra, and show him. Thanks everyone for explaining this, I don't have an X Box, heh.

Undertaker, IMHO I would buy a 42 inch LCD over a plasma... Safer investment ;)... I'm sure your aware of all the complaints about plasma... Just thought I'd warn ya incase you hadn't :)

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Undertaker, IMHO I would buy a 42 inch LCD over a plasma... Safer investment ... I'm sure your aware of all the complaints about plasma... Just thought I'd warn ya incase you hadn't

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42" HITACHI Plasma: $3,399.99 ---- 55" Plasma = $5500

37" SHARP AQUOS LCD: $4,079.99 ---- 45" LCD = $5500


Plasma suffers from Burn in. LCD suffers from dead pixels, especially on big screens.

LCDs can't display black as well as plasmas. LCDs give ya a higher resolution. Plasma has a sharper, more vivid color. LCDs would be better

Depends on what you'll be using it mostly. If its for TV, go with the plasma and save yourself some money. You can use a plasma display as a monitor for a PC without worrying to much as long as you take some precautions.

Doom3 on the Xbox does not equate to the same experience on the PC. Graphic wise. None of the 3d shooters do, but they are STILL excellent quality. Expecially the games that support higher HDTV resolutions. Playing it on the xbox is like tweaking the game down to get a higher FPS, making it a little less "edgy" for speed. But damn they look good on the tele. Oh plus you miss out on some of the fancier special effects. Since the game is specifically designed and tested on fairly consistent hardware, it's tweaked to perfection for the device. They aren't just ported over and the one's that are simply ported are CRAP.

Xbox definitely has a place in the houshold.

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BTW: many of the HD screens are only capable of 1280 x 768 yet to see (in OZ) specs above this. Seeing as this corresponds with the 720p (why would you want 1080i - or only 540 vertical lines of resolution)

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That 720p (progressive scan) is in 16:9 aspect ratio. The key here is progressive scan. 1080i as you can tell from the "i" for interlaced displays 1920 x 1080 pixels across the screen in 16:9 aspect. HDTV support 1920 x 1080 in the US in fact there are a few channels that broadcast it. One might think, shoot 1920 is best why doesn't everyone use that? It's too detailed and looks like a LCD when your playing doom3. You get artifacts but there are channels like PBS that go with it. When you buy a TV you muse MAKE SURE it supports both, if you want to use them or at least make sure it can convert the native 1080i to 720p for display. Most tuners or satelite systems let you set the output resolution as well, so you could get a cheaper TV and still have cool ass vid.