Gentoo founder to MS ?

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June 14th, 2005, 08:14 AM
dmorgan

Gentoo founder to MS ?

Seems that Daniel Robbins (pretty much founder of Gentoo Linux) just signed on with Microsoft. I know it is not a security issue, but I think worth discussing none-the-less.

Quote:

I'm helping Microsoft to understand Open Source and community-based projects.

What the hell does that mean ?

Now before you say "it means this: jibber, jibber, jibber" I know what it means. I am wondering why MS needs a guy like Daniel Robbins to spell it out. Maybe I'm being ignorant here, but I doubt MS needs the guy who developed Gentoo to tell them what 1000s, probably including their own staff, could tell them. I know he is an expert and all, but still...

( at least he made sure that gentoo.org didn't go down :) )

So, my question being; what does this mean to the Open Source Community (if anything), and what are your thoughts on this ? Any impact ?
June 14th, 2005, 09:00 AM
gore

LOL!!!!!!!!!

Oh well, don't worry Gentoo **** heads I'm sure he just needs money ;)

Wait!!!
I HAVE IT!!!! HE SIGNED ON WITH MICROSOFT BECAUSE WINDOWS AND GENTOO ARE THE ONLY OS ON EARTH WITH 2 SECURITY FLAWS A DAY!!!!!!!

LOL ;)
June 14th, 2005, 01:46 PM
frostedegg

If Bill Gates stuck a fat ass paycheck in my face I wouldn't say no, but then again I didn't found a linux distribution.......

Who knows why the hell MS hired him to "help MS understand Open Source." While a good number of MS staff probably knows what they are talking about when it comes to Open Source, management always likes to have the "big name" guy so they can sleep easy at night not knowing they are overpaying some asshat.

Who knows, who cares. Thanks my opinion
June 14th, 2005, 05:53 PM
unhappy

Gentoo distro is on the forefront of Linux optimization. It even comes w/ Nvidia drivers. It may have not been such a blind move by M$ after all. They are always trying to stir things up by taking away momentum from OS projects. Gentoo has attracted a lot of Linux gamers, which is other area that M$ dominates.

And they know that ie Debian/Slackware ppl won't go that easy... (I do realize that eveyone is up for sale though... at least w/ "that" kind of money)
June 14th, 2005, 08:40 PM
RoadClosed

Maybe the new Xbox is linux. :D
June 14th, 2005, 09:05 PM
unhappy

Xbox DEPENDS ON PROPRIETARY ENCYPTION ... therefore it will NEVER Opened Sourced
June 15th, 2005, 11:07 AM
Phat_Penguin

Quote:

Originally posted here by gore
LOL!!!!!!!!!

Oh well, don't worry Gentoo **** heads I'm sure he just needs money ;)

Wait!!!
I HAVE IT!!!! HE SIGNED ON WITH MICROSOFT BECAUSE WINDOWS AND GENTOO ARE THE ONLY OS ON EARTH WITH 2 SECURITY FLAWS A DAY!!!!!!!

LOL ;)

Firstly, Gentoo Shitheads .... you don't like it, fine, don't use it - but please don't bag it - its a fine Distro. Linux and Open Source is all about choices and the freedom to choose, never lose sight of that even in a poor attempt at humour. Shithead, indeed !!

Secondly, I would rather have an OS that identifies and fixes 10 flaws every day, rather than one whose developers walk around saying, "Flaws?, yeah flaws - we have identified a couple of them around here, matter of fact your standing on one now !!" (My poor attempt at humour)

Seriously though, good on Daniel - who from all accounts, poured all his time and money into Gentoo Linux. If a 6 or 7 figure annual salary to move over to Microsoft is his reward, I say good on him, he would be certifiably insane to knock it back.

Reality check !! It all about the pay packet - who cares who belongs to the beige boxes, cpu's, hard drives, Operating Systems and Code when they're paying for that extended tropical island resort holiday, tons of money, mansion on the waterfront and quality time with your family and friends - and dont forget the toys - lots and lots of expensive toys - planes, trains and automobiles !! :)

For those with a problem with Daniels move, here is a piece of free advice "Get over it" you would probably crawl over his bleeding corpse to get the same opportunity - I know I would !!!
June 15th, 2005, 01:28 PM
frostedegg

Quote:

Gentoo has attracted a lot of Linux gamers, which is other area that M$ dominates.

I don't think MS hired this guy to take him away from gentoo linux because they were attracting too many gamers......MS rules the gaming indsutry because companies write their code to run on native windows machines. When gaming companies start writing code to run on native linux machines, then MS will sweat bullets.
June 16th, 2005, 03:36 PM
RoadClosed

Quote:

Xbox DEPENDS ON PROPRIETARY ENCYPTION ... therefore it will NEVER Opened Sourced

You can still encrypt it and have proprietary application running on an open sourse OS. It would be hilarious though. :)
June 17th, 2005, 04:28 PM
unhappy

the only way you can bypass Xbox encryption is either w/ a mod chip or "soft hack" which uses

a bug in signed software (game) to run unsigned software
June 17th, 2005, 04:43 PM
Cope57

Like this? http://www.xbox-linux.org/

Or maybe this? http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...group_id=54192
June 18th, 2005, 01:00 AM
djscribble

Quote:

Originally posted here by unhappy
the only way you can bypass Xbox encryption is either w/ a mod chip or "soft hack" which uses

a bug in signed software (game) to run unsigned software

however, once the unsigned software is run, it is possible to make the xbox run unsigned code all the time (running unleashx on a box that was softmodded using a font hack for example)
June 18th, 2005, 01:12 AM
nihil

Strange indeed,

Could it be that Microsoft are sabre rattling in the Unix camp? after all, I cannot see them backing an open source and virtually free distro, but I could see them having a go at Sun and IBM?

It may even be as crude as just trying to boost their stock value, as it implies that they might be about to broaden their horizons and damage their competition in the process?

I am sorry to sound like a cheapskate conspiracy theorist, but I have seen major corporations do some very strange things for very obscure reasons?

:)
June 18th, 2005, 03:38 AM
unhappy

dj... fellow modder... huh?? ... nice to meet you, bud!

i know about unleashx... just didn't wanna get too ahead

nihil ... i always wanted to know... what is your favorite linux distro ... you seem like a debian guy
June 18th, 2005, 06:59 AM
dmorgan

not a bad idea, nihil. Didn't even think about that. MS damaging their competitors through open source. Hmm... Worth a thought or two, I believe. I can't say I'd be completely surprised with MS if they took that road (althought it would be a shock).

Maybe their new longhorn Command line based OS ?
June 18th, 2005, 12:54 PM
nihil

Quote:

nihil ... i always wanted to know... what is your favorite linux distro ... you seem like a debian guy

SuSE and Red Hat, although I am just having a look at ubuntu. I bought a Linspire (Lindows) pack to check out a possible off the shelf contender to Windows for non-computer people. It is pretty impressive, but I guess I am a command line person at heart.............hey I pre-date PCs let alone Windows :) (my first contact with GUIs was on Apple and Acorn boxes)

My background in *nix was SCO :chuck: then AIX then Solaris....................It was very much like "*nix for business and Windows for pleasure" back then :D

Things have certainly progressed a lot since then?
June 18th, 2005, 01:19 PM
Relyt

Regardless of the reasons (advertising, development, "show me the money", etc) it was a pretty doggone smart move on his part and on the part of MS. I'm confident he'll do more than just polish a chair with his back orifice.

Quote:

ENCYPTION

sounds like some sort of Colon Hydrotheraphy ....:)

cheers
June 18th, 2005, 03:37 PM
jinxy

Microsoft, or at least a representative from, believe open source to be un- American and a threat. They simply do not understand how Money Can be made from it.

Makes absolute sence to me for them to hire someone from the community.

Notwithstanding, all empires come to an end and Microsoft is an empire, what better way to understand the only threat to your empire?