U.N. run the Internet?

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July 15th, 2005, 03:47 AM
Tedob1

U.N. run the Internet?

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An international political spat is brewing over whether the United Nations will seize control of the heart of the Internet.

U.N. bureaucrats and telecommunications ministers from many less-developed nations claim the U.S. government has undue influence over how things run online. Now they want to be the ones in charge.

While the formal proposal from a U.N. working group will be released July 18, it's already clear what it will contain. A preliminary summary of governmental views claims there's a "convergence of views" supporting a new organization to oversee crucial Internet functions, most likely under the aegis of the United Nations or the International Telecommunications Union.

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July 15th, 2005, 08:49 AM
The Texan

how would the UN control it? share control with every nation in the UN? what about those nations not in the UN who want their piece? crazy!
July 15th, 2005, 09:46 AM
Aspman

UN couldn't organise a pissup in a brewery.

:drink:
July 15th, 2005, 03:33 PM
RoadClosed

Isn't this outside the realm of why we created the UN?
July 15th, 2005, 03:46 PM
The Grunt

The UN's indecision on this issue is exactly the reason why they shouldn't be in control... **** wouldn't get done, without a better way to say it... I think ICANN is doing just fine as is, and I really don't think the UN could do a better job.
July 15th, 2005, 04:19 PM
Galdron

So what will it be now, "The Bandwith for food scandal"?

The UN is a Joke..............I repeat the UN is a joke..........not not even a good one.

And Koffe Banana, or Coughing Anus or whtever his name is is a pathetic leader.

:o
July 15th, 2005, 06:35 PM
Black Cluster

UN couldn't till now do anything within its realm of goals ... thus I don't think that they will do something good .... they are just trying to find something else to make thier employees busy ... that's it ...
July 16th, 2005, 12:18 AM
Egaladeist

The UN should stick with what it's best at...and the UNESCO is their one and only saving grace.
July 19th, 2005, 09:10 AM
SwordFish_13
Hi,

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Originally posted here by The Texan
how would the UN control it? share control with every nation in the UN? what about those nations not in the UN who want their piece? crazy!

It's not like UN is Planning to Sit with a Stick and watch every Bit Pass by ....... :D

The Current Spat is over the Control of Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) ....... Rest most of the Technoligical Organistions already work as Tech. Forums rather than taking orders form a Particular Country.

After the Current UN's World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) failed to reach an Agreement over the Future of Internet ...... it has set up a Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG) .

WGIG has issued its report about net governance and has tabled four possible futures for what should be done about policy issues, such as spam , hi-tech crime , Mobile Phones Communications etc.

Option One - create a UN body known as the Global Internet Council that draws its members from governments and "other stakeholders" and takes over the US oversight role of Icann.
Option Two - no changes apart from strengthening Icann's Governmental Advisory Committee to become a forum for official debate on net issues.
Option Three - relegate Icann to a narrow technical role and set up an International Internet Council that sits outside the UN. US loses oversight of Icann.
Option Four - create three new bodies. One to take over from Icann and look after the net's addressing system. One to be a debating chamber for governments, businesses and the public; and one to co-ordinate work on "internet-related public policy issues".

"Technological decisions should meet the needs of people, not enrich companies or enable control by governments" -

Peace
July 19th, 2005, 09:40 AM
nihil

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U.N. bureaucrats and telecommunications ministers from many less-developed nations claim the U.S. government has undue influence over how things run online

The US has thermonuclear weapons............they don't. Anyway the UN has been becoming progressively obsolete since the Korean War.

I am a firm believer in the old saying that "if it isn't broken, don't try to repair it"................right now I don't see anything broken.

What I find ironic is that we have totally irrelevant nations squeaking about democratic principles............principles that they are incapable of applying to their own citizens in their own countries.

Ack phtt!
July 19th, 2005, 03:46 PM
RoadClosed

United Nations Internet Council:

U.N.: Kerblakistan you have been accused of invading internet countries with trojans and worms. In addition your zombie servers are storing up weapons of mass Denial of Service(WMD). You are to stop immediately with resolution v1.0

Kerblakistan: Hey, you are busting my balls here. I have no WMD and that unauthorized network intrustion was a lie! You capitolist pigs.... oh my foreign minister says there is no spoon. Sorry, won't happen again.

U.N.: Ok we believe you, but please open your servers to WMD inspection. Comply with resolution v1.1 please.

Kerblakistan: Ok there you go.

U.N.: Umm access denied, comply with resoution v1.2 please

Kerblakistan: Ok there you go, had a problem with access control

U.N.: Ummm, Access restricted to perimeter. Please comply with resolution v1.3 please

Kerblakistan: Ha, you will never believe this. Somehow your access was deleted. We have to rebuild the gateway, come back in 2 years. I'll tell ya, these things are tricky.

U.N.: You are in breach of resolution v1.1 - You have been placed in the warning loop. Warning comply, Warning Comply, Warning Comply..... beep beep

Kerblakistan: OK we have installed Jihad Linux. It's locked down pretty tight so now you can have access.

U.N.: We still don't have access to the core servers.

Kerblakistan: Oops. You have violated access controls on moved servers. You are therefore permanetaly locked out. Sorry Hans Blix, there is NOTHING I can do. User ID terminated.

U.N. ?

U.S.A. **** this, system overload initiated. Nmap scan complete. Access Granted.

Kerblakistan: Private Message - he he. Jihad Linux MF. Core safe Public Message - Infadels! You are killing my OS.

U.N. Geaorge W Bush you are in violation of ... of.... hmmm you are in violation of international something or other... we don't like you! Get out of Kerblakistan DNS servers.

U.S.A. pawnd bitch. Appling resolution v1.1, 1.2, 1.3 patches. System reboot iminent.
July 19th, 2005, 03:47 PM
The Grunt

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What I find ironic is that we have totally irrelevant nations squeaking about democratic principles............principles that they are incapable of applying to their own citizens in their own countries.

You mean like the US? :P
July 19th, 2005, 08:06 PM
Black Cluster

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Originally posted here by The Grunt
You mean like the US? :P

role model, indeed! ... :p
July 19th, 2005, 08:17 PM
nihil

Hmmmmmmmmmm,

Pick which country you would prefer to live in:

Rwanda
Burundi
Central African Republic
North Korea
The Yemen
Zimbabwe
The Sudan
United States

:D :p :cool:
July 19th, 2005, 08:53 PM
Egaladeist

Hi nihil,

Errrrrrr....none of the above :D

I like universal healthcare :D

Eg ;)
July 19th, 2005, 09:02 PM
the_JinX

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Rwanda, Burundi, Central African Republic, North Korea, The Yemen, Zimbabwe, The Sudan

I don't care what country, if I get the same pay I do now :)
Can buy me an estate the size of my city for what I've paid for my house..
But I'm just going Colonial now ;)

To get back on subject.
First things first..

What does it cost to run ICANN (say per year)?

How can you work that in a good swift and democratic way ?

Who would be makeing the decisions and how are they 'policed' ?