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I don't know if General Zhu Chenghu is a nutcase or has just spent too much time in an opium den....but it's a scary thought all the same.
Read about it here.
And the world thinks that WE'RE agressive. Hey Zhu...do us all a favor and switch to decaf.....
Is this not time for a pre-emptive strike?
The little buggers are putting all of our workers out of jobs because they will work fo $20 a month....so where do we go?.................you go try buy a low tech device that is not made in China?
Ack phtt!
Just exchange the name General Zhu Chenghu to Donald Rumsfeld.Quote:
Gen Zhu said his views did not represent official Chinese policy and he did not anticipate war with the US
Same rhetoric and posturing BS.
China depends quite heavily on exports to the US and it's allies for it's economy now. That more than anything else will stop anything serious kicking off.
This general is making noises to make himself noticed. This is probably internal party politics. The General maybe wants a new house to shut him up. :deal:
Further reflection reminds me that China is trying to secure drilling rights (oil) in Colorado, so one can assume that Denver IS NOT on the hit list...who wants glow-in-the-dark gasoline anyway?
Or a high tech device component that can't be made in Taiwan?Quote:
you go try buy a low tech device that is not made in China?
Sounds like he'd fit right in here at AO....Quote:
This general is making noises to make himself noticed. This is probably internal party politics.
Its all about the pants, trousers and so on.
Read the Label, Gap..............China...... Banana Republic?...........China........does Del-Monte exist in China?
Dudes, they might as well Nuke themselves, everything that is "Retail" in America originates in china.
When I think Nuking I think leftovers, I looked on the back of my Microwave and guess what????????
Made in ....China.
What were the leftovers on?.......................China. Made guess where.......?
North Korea! Hahaha
Why would a country Nuke their own Financial Slaves? (Us)
Ya see?
:D
Love all a yas!
China doesn't even need to use nukes to take over the US. It's already bought a major part of IBM, it's been reverse-engineering "classified" military secrets delivered to it by Boeing (for which Boeing is under investigation), it's about to buy Unocal, and their trade surplus is bigger than the US's trade deficit. That's right, with the money western consumers gave to China (China's total surplus is around $700 billion), China could buy:
- All American oil companies (worth a total of $650 billion)
- All American airliners (worth "only" $4 billion)
- All American defense contractors
Negative and others are correct. China is really more of a world power than the US and THEY get a FREE ride when it comes to the United Nations and politics. However talking about nuking someone is NOT rational thought. So the rational argument that it would hurt them should be discounted. And China is always one step away from government shift from a psuedo democratic communist state to one of radical communism ala Lenin. AND it wouldn't take a major coup to acomplish that.
It goes both ways. We depend on them for these products.Quote:
China depends quite heavily on exports to the US and it's allies for it's economy now.
If the US gets nuked, whats gonna happen?
US gonna stop using "made in china/taiwan" products?
Doubt it.
China's gonna lose major revenue, but someone has to give in first and I think it will be the US.
US college kids would die without:
:DQuote:
Gap..............China...... Banana Republic?
In any respect...China would not need to use nukes to take over the US...they could simply just send 250 million unarmed people over in boats and vote themselves in :D
Eg :D
Or they could all start jumping simultaneously ;)Quote:
In any respect...China would not need to use nukes to take over the US...they could simply just send 250 million unarmed people over in boats and vote themselves in
China levies import taxes of around 30% on American goods. The US levies import taxes of 5% on Chinese goods...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlates...142916,00.htmlQuote:
``If the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition into the target zone on China's territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons,'' Maj. Gen. Zhu Chenghu, a dean at China's National Defense University, told visiting Hong Kong-based reporters.
It's not really news. He just says they would use nukes in self defense
Some times they talk tough, just like we do, just to clarify the issues.
There will be no China-US conflict over Taiwan. The issue was decided thirty
years ago. China will "eventually" reassert sovereignty over Taiwan, with US
approval.
:cool:
Here is a different twist. If China were to exchange nukes they would be obliterated and we would still have a large capability. There are many that would survive on either side but we have more disperse metropolitain areas than they. We have more of a decentralized government that can take control via state statutes etc.
I see nuking US a big problem from my point of view:
1.) China loses one of it's major buyers
2.) China loses profit anywho because a lot of countries rely on the US a lot for many things and their economy will also go down (Look at what happened on 9/11, look how many countries are still sufring from it, including where I live)
3.) China loses a lot of their kind because there are a lot of chinese in the US, hell they even have their own street in New York called China Town.
4.) China will lose a great allie (Don't know if they still are allies due to this)
Note: This is my opinions, they aren't 100% accurate since I haven't been TOO into the news lately but, you see where I'm heading with this.
This is probably just a knee-jerk reaction by some hard-line Chinese to the new decision by N. Korea's Kim to want a nuclear free peninsula.
Edit: for those who'd like to see what the Chinese News Daily has to say...
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_453661.htmQuote:
North Korea wants a nuclear-free peninsula
(Agencies)
Updated: 2005-06-22 13:44
North Korea's ultimate goal is a nuclear-free Korean peninsula and it would have no use for nuclear weapons if the United States were friendly, Pyongyang's top delegate to inter-Korean talks said.
"The denuclearization of the Korean peninsula was the last will of (the late North Korean) president Kim Il-Sung and that's our ultimate goal," North Korean chief delegate Kwon Ho-Ung was quoted as saying during the talks.
North Korea wants a nuclear-free peninsula
American news...
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/world/3264394
HoustonChronicle.com - Leader says North Korea wants nuclear-free peninsula
Canadian...
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew..._25/?hub=World
CTV.ca | N. Korean leader wants nuclear-free peninsula
And, as expected, China wants to take the credit...
http://www.china.org.cn/english/2ndRound/88707.htm
China Sets Sights on Nuclear-free Peninsula
I would liken this to my little Jack Russell Terrier. When I wrestle with my Shepard, the little Terrier will always do something to try to gain my attention so that I will play with him instead. His favorite technique is to drop his tennis ball on my foot repeatedly until I make an attempt to pick it up. He then grabs the ball and runs just out of reach and begins teasing me, “See my ball, you really want my ball, come play with me and get the ball!” If I ignore him he will continue to bounce the ball off me to get my attention. He is quite aware that after awhile, I will give him attention.
Some countries are playing the exact same game. They want attention drawn to them. There is a worldwide scramble going on to be recognized as a powerful nation. The method and flavor of the day is: “Envy”. In this case “Nuclear Envy”. This is a classic example of a page right out of the North Korean playbook. “See my toy. You want my toy. Come play with me on my terms!” And obviously it worked:~cheers~Quote:
the new decision by N. Korea's Kim to want a nuclear free pennisula.