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Hi gals and guys (nothing queer about nihil :D )
I would just like to point out that it is a sort of unwritten rule not to give antipoints in "Cosmos"
OK, if we get a Troll invasion, that is a different matter, but in general terms I believe that I am correct.
If you approve/disapprove of what has been posted, might I recommend using the private message system (PM)
Cheers
Johnno
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nothing queer about nihil
Sure man..whatever you say.
:D
Stick to the script Galdron or the others might start to talk?
:p :cool: :D
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Originally posted here by nihil
Stick to the script Galdron or the others might start to talk?
:p :cool: :D
Tell that to Jar-Jar Binks, I wudda lubta Killed him.
Death to Jar-Jar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That mofo is english!!!!!!!!!! Jar Jar Binks is a fuggin LIMEY!!
Yeah, if anybody wonder why that is, it's because we don't approve that anybody gets negged or pos'd for having a different opinion than you.
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Originally posted here by ©opy®ight
Yeah, if anybody wonder why that is, it's because we don't approve that anybody gets negged or pos'd for having a different opinion than you.
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'it's because we don't approve that anybody gets negged or pos'd for having a different opinion than you.'
.. so this was the reason, i thought it was because it is opinion place and anipoints relate to your overall behaviour and attitude on AO, like kind of recognition of presence in group.
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Originally posted here by rider_royal
'it's because we don't approve that anybody gets negged or pos'd for having a different opinion than you.'
.. so this was the reason, i thought it was because it is opinion place and anipoints relate to your overall behaviour and attitude on AO, like kind of recognition of presence in group.
Mood: excited
Reason: just got free after 6 months.. . again tinkerin g with computer s :-)
Were you in Jail?
:D
Example: Conversation in Cosmos:
Gore (because he's the number one AP earner) says: Catholics suck.
Newbie: No they don't, Catholics are bla bla bla bla history, good point, makes gore look bad.
Gore negs Newbie, newbie gets 2 red dots for having a different opinion on religion.
No offense Gore or Catholics, i'm a Catholic myself, just an example. That's why we don't like AP's in Cosmos.
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Originally posted here by ©opy®ight
Example: Conversation in Cosmos:
Gore (because he's the number one AP earner) says: Catholics suck.
Newbie: No they don't, Catholics are bla bla bla bla history, good point, makes gore look bad.
Gore negs Newbie, newbie gets 2 red dots for having a different opinion on religion.
No offense Gore or Catholics, i'm a Catholic myself, just an example. That's why we don't like AP's in Cosmos.
I agree with you M3M but, I do not think that we are as facist as that. I think that we all agree on the fact that AP's are kind of a "needed nonsense", and that just because someone disagrees with a SM with massive striking power does not mean they will be Negged into the ground.
I do agree that AP's have no place in Cosmos, yet it is a given that ppl. will use them when, and where they feel like it.
There is no real way to regulate that.
So.....................
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Of course there isn't, i've used AP's once or twice in Cosmos too, we're not forcing anybody to not use them, we're simply politely asking "Please, do not use them", wether anybody listens or not is their choice.
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Originally posted here by ©opy®ight
Of course there isn't, i've used AP's once or twice in Cosmos too, we're not forcing anybody to not use them, we're simply politely asking "Please, do not use them", wether anybody listens or not is their choice.
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Because of the ' nature ' of the Cosmos forum...it can easily become inflamatory...the primary reason in my opinion Negative has suggested on occasion AP's not be brought into that forum is because of that and the possibility of it erupting into an AP frenzy...more so than any other forum...and that people should not be APed for simply having an opposing view...
I'm sure Neg will correct me if I'm wrong....;)
I've APed people in Cosmos before...but by accident...normally, if a particular post makes me laugh or think I'll AP that person in another post outside of Cosmos...that way maintaining the internal integrity of Cosmos and still managing to use the AP system as intended.
That, in my opinion, is the logical response...the intent is to keep Cosmos a peaceful place to share personal opinions.
Some people are ' sensitive ' to others opinions...especially those kinds of opinions that are brought up in Cosmos...in the heat of the moment...
if a particular post in Cosmos strikes you the right way I see nothing wrong with APing that person outside of Cosmos...if a post in Cosmos strikes you the wrong way then either post your objection or be a man and let it go...
common sense and rational behaviour should dictate whether you should or you shouldn't...if you lack common sense or rational behaviour then you probably shouldn't have any AP's at all.
All in all...the AP system works well with this membership, and has it's own checks and balances...and, for the most part, common sense does prevail...more so than in other forums I attend...it still can and does get abused...but that is to be expected.
If you want an AP system that works well then don't positive AP people who are prone to abuse it.
It's all here:- Sticky by Negative, Cosmos and AntipointsQuote:
Originally posted here by nihil
Hi gals and guys (nothing queer about nihil :D )
I would just like to point out that it is a sort of unwritten rule not to give antipoints in "Cosmos"
OK, if we get a Troll invasion, that is a different matter, but in general terms I believe that I am correct.
If you approve/disapprove of what has been posted, might I recommend using the private message system (PM)
Cheers
Johnno
http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=242438
Hi jm459,
I remember reading that and...I think Neg brought it up again in the time I've been here.
Eg ;)
( on another note )
Laws...rules...regulations...exist primarily to protect people from stupidity...we envoke a law why? To enforce the common sense onto those lacking common sense. If you use common sense...then most laws don't really apply to you because they are not directed with you in mind.
The rule in Cosmos is just like any other rule or law...it is directed at those who would not otherwise apply common sense...if we all applied common sense in every aspect of life there would be no need of laws...rules...or regulations.
eg. common sense dictates that if you want to live in a harmonious society you don't steal...if you want to live in a safe neighborhood you don't commit violence against your neighbor...if you don't want to get hit by a car cross the street when there are no cars nearby...don't pet a bear in the wild, don't tell your girlfriend she has a fat a@@, don't sit on an anthill...etc...common sense is a self-law in need of no other law.
I still think a good post deserves recognition and a bad one just the opposite and i think as long as you go discretely about it the balance will work itself out..We do have moderators who i think will in turn use their own discretion when a post is either negged or positived to hell and back to intervein and do what is reqiured..You might get someone who can freely express him or herself within cosmos and if it is good it deserves recognition i think..:D
Just my 2cents
Galdron: Were you in Jail?
not in jail, but in village area for handling agriculture business i do, and there is no regular telephone and light there, let alone PC and internet. remote area you can say...
Bleh, it's pretty simple if you ask me -- there's no need for Antipoints in Cosmos. It doesn't belong there, it's not security related, and yes.. opinions on philosophy/religion/etc should not be awarded/punished with AntiPoints.
Negative's sticky pretty much explains it and lays it out IMO.
Nebraska? You poor bastard. :D Oh wait... St. Johns, Newfoundland?Quote:
remote area you can say...
I find it kinda weird that the only ones who CAN do 'damage' with AP's have been here a while, have all whined about newbie's not reading the FAQ's, and STILL they award points in Cosmos ...............
As one who has transgressed himself :eek:
I can only say sorry, must try harder.
But, on the whole it does self regulate, and a thread that goes suicidal can be brought back by the mods, as can a thread where AP's are flying around with gay abandon, be shut by them too.
Leave well enough alone, just the occaisional reminder thread like this to keep us on our toes should do it...............
I have given out positive on occasion. Can't think of an event that would warrant negative points considering Cosmos is about ideology and all things considered... if one doesn't agree then learn from it. Anyway I have given out positives when a post has great insight, either for entertainment value or just good sense. Or on occasion when I learned a great deal by the work placed forth by its author. It is rare though and I think an occasional nudge is just fine. With anything abuse comes of course and it's good to remind everyone once in a while. ;)
Hi Spyder32,
Sorry Spyder but...Quote:
there's no need for Antipoints in Cosmos. It doesn't belong there, it's not security related, and yes.. opinions on philosophy/religion/etc should not be awarded/punished with AntiPoints.
if only ' security related forums are worthy of AP's then you might as well exclude Addicts, Chit-Chat, Tech Humor, Programming ( as the ' focus ' is not on security ). etc...
as for opinions, personal philosophies, comments, etc..of a non-security nature being excluded from being ' awarded or punished ' then over half and probably three-quarters of the posts getting APed wouldn't...because in virtually every thread I've read the vast majority of posts getting APed are not security related...and that includes hardware, software, and other help of a non-security nature.
I'm sure some of the ' hard-core ' members who think this forum ought to be ' strictly security related ' would agree that ' only ' security-related posts should get AP's...but then...
if that were the case then the environment would not be the same and the community would not be what it is...and in comparison to other forums...I think we have a pretty good community here just the way it is.
As the saying goes...if it ain't broke...don't fix it.
Eg ;)
Hi folks, the reason I made this post was that I had been given antipoints in Cosmos threads.........sure I do not care, but I really don't think that it is in the spirit of things? It should be a free speech area?.................OK they were all positive, but I really should not have received them, irrespective of their polarity.Quote:
if only ' security related forums are worthy of AP's then you might as well exclude Addicts, Chit-Chat, Tech Humor, Programming ( as the ' focus ' is not on security ). etc.
I know that I tend to abuse this forum, in that I use it as a chat room :( but since I moved up here to the North, I do not meet people to talk IT with. I try to contribute where I can, which is usually applications, operating systems and hardware support.
I am fully aware that those are NOT what the site is about, but they are areas where I feel that I can help?
Cheers,
Johnno
I did not assign any AntiPoints in the Cosmos, becasue I believe that it would make that forum full off uneeded assignment caused by the regional, religious, idiological and personal differences, and as you know AO is brought to discuss computer releated subjects not otherwise.
Back to the custom of not assigning in Cosmos, I still think that this custom MUST be repected more, we MUST NOT toss APs just because we have different beliefs and set of values, this matter is really critical and should be treated as such.
I have nothing more to say ....
Cheers
Eg: You somewhat have a point. I don't care if AP's are in GCC/etc or whatever. But Cosmos is different from the rest because people have their own religious/political/etc beliefs and they shouldn't be awarded/punished for them.
Hi Spyder32,
I agree Cosmos should be off-limits in respect that some might be persuaded to neg someone inappropriately...but there have been a few times where someone has said something that made me think or laugh and who I thought deserved to be APed for it...
but like I said in an earlier post I don't AP in Cosmos either ( except by accident )...if I feel a particular post deserves to be APed I'll find another post in another forum and AP that person there instead.
Even though I rarely neg anyone and never for their opinion...and even though I, personally, try to maintain the spirit of the law...what is to prevent someone from circumventing Cosmos, as I do ( on albeit rare occasions to positive AP them ), and negging them in another forum for what they said in Cosmos?
There really is no way to enforce the no AP rule...you just have to hope that most people will use common sense in their judgments.
Eg ;)