The First Peer-to-Peer Geolocation Service

Don't know if this has any security relevance ( I'm sure there are some implications ) but...as a wireless issue I thought it belonged here...

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Now, a New-York-based start-up company, Navizon, offers a better solution, with its peer-to-peer wireless positioning system which relies on dynamic databases always up-to-date. Users need a free piece of software and a GPS device or a WiFi and/or Cellular enabled Pocket PC PDA. When you're walking or driving, you're able to get your exact location in real time, and companies can send you messages about a restaurant of a film opening near the place where you are.

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http://www.mindjack.com/relay/2005/0...-service.shtml
Mindjack - Daily Relay

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When you're walking or driving, you're able to get your exact location in real time, and companies can send you messages about a restaurant of a film opening near the place where you are.

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Wow! Creative new ways to get spam! Sign me up!

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Hi zencoder,

And there's your security reference :D

Eg ;)

Egaladeist do you know if their is a way for others to find out ware you are in real time, not that i have much to hide but i dont realy like the idea of every one(feds) knowing ware i am all the time.

It's not that I think every one is out to get me, I know they are. :wow:

Hi Riot,

I might be wrong...but...if you use any king of communication device, card, etc...someone can find you...if they're looking for you.

The only way to avoid detection would to make yourself invisible...no phone, no computer, no swipe cards, etc...

But I wouldn't worry about it...seeing as you obviously don't try to make yourself invisible...it's also obvious that, even if they were keeping tabs, you couldn't be a high priority...or they'd be knocking on your door right now.

Eg ;)

I know I was just kidding. What i realy ment was more towards friends and family, Like if my grilfriends exboyfriend wanted to kick my ass(just to let you all know he couldn't) would he be able to find me using that or something.

well he wouldn't need anything fancy, me thinks. Just stalk ur girlfriend, his ex, for a bit and then he'll whoop ur behind!!! :-)

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The only way to avoid detection would to make yourself invisible...no phone, no computer, no swipe cards, etc...

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Well darn, I don't have any one of those; I must be the invisible man :D

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Originally posted here by ThePastorGang
Well darn, I don't have any one of those; I must be the invisible man :D

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Really? You don't have a Kroger, Albertsons, or Safeway "shopper card"? No library card? No student or state ID?

It is becoming increasingly harder to have zero digital signature in our society. Actually, there are some pretty cool discussions and considerations of this sort of thing, all fictional of course, in William Gibsons writing. I forget the exact book...Virtual Light? Mona Lisa Overdrive?

Basically, the main character is this Savant that can observe logs, records, information collected about people, and infer information about them that would be otherwise unknown to the rest of us.

As I said, complete fiction...but frighteningly thought provoking. Credit companies have been perfecting this for years; predictable and fraudulent activities.

So you say you have ZERO digital presence? I doubt it...everytime you login here and make a post, you leave a path of 1's and 0's that could be followed. And don't bother to explain your painstaking methods of using Anonymizer.com and other proxies. The data is there...it may be well neigh impossible to track down...but it DOES exist.

You're less invisible then you think...and many of us are ridiculously over exposed, as well. :(

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Originally posted here by zencoder


You're less invisible then you think...and many of us are ridiculously over exposed, as well. :(

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Like some kind of digital nude beach? ;)

Speaking about tracking: Use your debit card at a Meijer, Walmart, wherever and notice how, over time, the cupons you get are for products you buy most. The unique id is your card account # plus other info related to your card/bankaccount.

If you don't own a dog, you'll never get cupons for dog food.

i dont own a dog and i constantly get coupons for dog food.

is it because my brothers name is Rover? ;)

(Just kidding, my brother's name isnt Rover, but I do get dog food and heartworm med coupons from time to time)

I dont have a dog, but sometimes money gets tight...and alpo isnt that gamey...

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Originally posted here by dinowuff
Speaking about tracking: Use your debit card at a Meijer, Walmart, wherever and notice how, over time, the cupons you get are for products you buy most. The unique id is your card account # plus other info related to your card/bankaccount.

If you don't own a dog, you'll never get cupons for dog food.

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Actually, I am 99.999% certain it is not the CC number itself. It is more likely some arbitrary identifier that is corellated to and by use of your card numbers. If Target et al were keeping your numbers and using them that directly for data tracking, they would be slammed so hard by Visa, MC, AMEX, etc. that CardSystems recent fiasco would look like a joke.

But you're right; they DO track your spending habits, even if they can't necessarily pull up a master database and say "Yup, there's that Kthln01 guy from AO, buying K-y again. Thats the third bottle this week!?!" ;) Just kidding, there.

But seriously, they may or may not be able to easily put a "name" with a set of behaviors, but they can certainly get a trigger when you make a purchase, and spit out an associated or competitive coupon. King Soopers (read: Krogers, for those outside the rocky mountain states) has been doing it for years. Next time Kthln01 goes shopping, he could get a coupon for a blow up doll. ;)

Again, sorry. Just had to take the shots. Respect.

Knowing Walmart, they proabaly have Retina identification from you :eek:

The worlds largest retailer, and the worlds largest company.
If you're 10 mins late to restock them with that they need, you're gone.
Or if you don't want to supply them, they'll get someone to buy your company.

"Wal-Mart owned the largest and most sophisticated computer system in the private sector. The company used Massively Parallel Processor (MPP) computer system to track the movement of goods and stock levels. All information related to sales and inventories was passed on through an advanced satellite communication system."

You don't screw with them. :(

well i don't know about US and other EU states ,but if you do want to disappear come to india
( the bourne i dentity 2) you can get a fake id and on that basis get a CC,debt card, driver license etc,but not a passport ( after the hijacking and attacks on the parlament ,Passports are hard to get) !!!:D