PS/2 Mouse problem. plz read...

Hi AO Addicts!

i hope that you can help me with this one, and i also hope that you dont say get a new motherboard / my hardware is buggered!

First things first, heres my sys spec:

Celeron 700mhz

Dual Boot-
2 x 20gb HDD
-Mepis
-XP

384mb RAM

motherboard-
Aopen MX3S

Graphics-
ATi RAGE128 pro AGP / rage fury pro

F U NEED ANY MORE SPEC OR N MORE DETAiL PLZ ASk!!!!


THE PROBLEM:

Almost all the time i turn the computer on, the mouse doesn't work. The PC i am using is an old one which has been put together for me by this computer project (so if i cant sort this out i will take it back! But i'd like to solve this one!)

i am using a PS/2 mouse. as far as i know, the sys should automaticaly detect the mouse and assign it an irq which is usualy 12. Only sometimes does the mouse get detected.

After doing a little research on the net trying to solve the problem (using the mumber pad to direct the cursor) i was unable to find anything that could realy help. i checked the irq's and it turns out that irq 12 was being occupied by my graphics card! is this normal? can i change this?

This problem is realy doing my nut in, pls, any suggestions welcomed...

Also... i have attached a file with a list of where all the irq's are assigned to. i couldnt be arsed to type them all in, up to you if u download 100% safe as houses!

i look forward to your infinate wisdom(s)!!!!!!!

You shouldnt have to worry about IRQs in XP.

Did you try a different mouse???

MLF

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i couldnt be arsed to type them all in

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Neither could you be 'arsed' to use capitals or put down the correct words, just some lazy shorthand ..........

So why should 'we' be 'arsed' to help ?

Although it has to be said that trying a different / new mouse would be the first step ..........

If it STILL has issues 'seeing' the mouse, THEN you check your drivers are up to date ......
THEN consider using the XP CD to try and repair the OS as it might have some corruption in it .........
you DID say it is an OLD PC, so we assume it has had the XP since day one ????

Try to use the 'old' mouse on a different PC, if it does work there, it's your PC at fault ....

Now you go to the shops and buy yourself a new system, nothing too fancy.......... 2.4GHz AMD / P4 - 512 MB RAM an older 128MB GPX card - a MoBo to suit and maybe a nice new 350W / 400W PSU
and build it up yourself, using the original box to save some money :)

Whilst in the shop, they will probably give you a new mouse as a present for buying the other stuff ...........

jobs a gud'un :)

Ok MR FOXYLOXLEY...

The reason why i have this PC is because im a skint student who cant afford to buy a new one! Thus the reason why i am trying to sort this problem out and not buying a USB mouse.

Secondly, the reason why i am missing capitals is because the keyboard i am using is dodgey and some capitals dont work.

Thirdly, the reson why i didnt want to type the irq's is because THE kEYBOARD S DODGEY AND i DONT HAVE A MOUSE TO COPY AND PASTE!!!

Now, MEPSiS = LiNUX, i know irq shouldnt realy matter with xp but i think it is being configured before it reaches the OS as when i boot with LiNUX the mouse still doesnt work. The mouse is tempremental i.e it does work sometimes.

i cant work out what the prob is, maybe dodgey hardware... Another thing that i thought it could be, is that the processor is to fast for the motherboard?

s there anyway that i can assign the mouse to a different irq address e.g 3 or 4. One weird thing that i noticed, is that the graphics card is using irq 12, this irq address is normaly for the ps/2 mouse?

anyways, if you need all the irq addresses put up i will do so, and hopefully i have made things a little clearer.

:)

Well any changes will have to be made at the BIOS level......there may be some tweaking you

can do for the AGP resources...depending on your board..reading the board manual may help....or googling your board issues

Thats about all...best way to see if its the board or the mouse...is to try another mouse....

If you dont want\cant do that.....then you will just have to live with your Sh#tty hardware :D


Too bad so sad...sucks to be you ;)

MLF

Edit and if you do take MR FOXYs advice...make sure you get a new keyboard too :D

Well,

Thank you all so much for your advice. i have actualy tried another mouse and it is not that. Will definately try and search on ggogle to change the bios. Have actualy had a play around with the bios to no avail. reckon it must just be faulty hardware.

Anyway, y do u have to be so cocky in your answers?

im a normal person asking a normalo question, u 2 have to be rude in your answers and basicaly take the piss.

if this is all the help you can give, dont bother!

I am glad you edited your post


As for being rude.....I told you wthe easiest, quickest cheapest way to troubleshoot your problem....

Try a different mouse.....

So did foxy...with some humor at that (I found it funny) and you came back being very rude.

As for your negging me....bam...heres some back.....

although I have a feeling mine pack more punch....yours wasnt even read...it was gray ;)

have a great day

MLF

MY AP assignment : I thought it was a green :) then saw it was grey and with a cute little wordy thing ..........

Hey Ho ......

ANYWAY .......
you didn't say you had all those other problems, if you HAD, I'd have advised you to start saving and buy new ASAP ............
your system is NOT too fast for the MoBo - it is just old and abused [not YOU abusing it, just that's what happens to H/W S/W over time]

Bite the bullet
start saving

Even if you DO get a fix for this problem. It will only be a temp until the next part fails ..........

And I KNOW my negs bite : but not here

Pax

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if this is all the help you can give, dont bother!

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Some people are harder to help than others :)

Just read the PM I've sent, it IS a genuine offer.
feel free to PM any of the mods as to whether you should / could accept .......
I'll still be here ................ taking the pi55 [apparently]

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i DONT HAVE A MOUSE TO COPY AND PASTE!!!

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ctrl C to copy
ctrl V to paste

or am I missing something ???


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Also... i have attached a file with a list of where all the irq's are assigned to

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:confused: where ????

Konshuss

Here is a simple test for you. Take your keyboard and mouse and attach them to a machine that is known to work properly. The operating system does not matter, only that it correctly recognises PS/2 devices.

If they don't work then they are at fault.............if they do work (as I think they will ;) ) this tells you that the PS/2 controller/connectors on your motherboard is knackered :eek:

It is NOT your BIOS........................those problems are almost always YES/NO, it works all the time or never.

Also, you can forget about IRQ shares, that is a problem with other Windows versions sometimes, but XP handles it automatically. Once again, IRQ share problems are usually YES/NO. Anyway, all you have to do is go into device manager to see if there are any conflicts.



EDIT: It is probably a simple but delicate welding job on the PS/2 block/motherboard, but I would just take it back if the mouse and keyboard check out OK.

AND Do not try to run XP on an obsolete system like that. You will get a much better result with Windows 2000. Sure, XP will run, but with nothing like its full potential ;)

Hey,

Had an interesting problem yesterday....

A customer brought in her pc.. the Ps2 mouse wasnt working..
I was about to write off the Mobo when I realised I hadn't disconnected the front panel USB's..
BINGO.. mouse returned to use

Now get this.. Why the the MOBo even Booted I dont know... the 5v pin in one of the sockets was firmly shorted to the earth..

so question.. is the mouse getting its fair share of 5v.. is it possable to test the PSU.. there are more than one 5v supply on a psu.. and one of these is the AT (all time) 5v.. if this sucker is sick mouse and/or keyboard will be giving you bother


Don't fuxor around with the BIOS if it was working one day and not the next.. dont go here just yet..........
now just give your IRQ's a dump in the river.. forget them.. let the os take care of it.. stuffing arouynd here will just raise more problems then a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.


after you have done this you can also try uninstalling the mouse in device manager (Win9x, 2k/XP) give the box a restart and see what results..

it is probable that the mobo is fuxored.. but it could more likely be some thing else..

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is because THE kEYBOARD S DODGEY

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your biggest clue.. or is it just a duff kbd? your also saying intermittant.. problem with the mouse.. is the socket mount loose?

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capitals dont work

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LMAO....so they work in lower case then?

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im a skint student who cant afford to buy a new one!

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PS2 Mouse £0.51

Serial Mouse £0.93

USB mouse £1.87

Keyboard £1.17


Have a hunt about Ebuyers website and you might even get free postage.

Even a skint student could afford a new mouse if yours is knackered or a serial/usb mouse if your mobo is crocked.

Have a nice day :D

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i have actualy tried another mouse and it is not that

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There is the same problem in Linux, so I do not think that it is the driver? Does the keyboard work in Linux?

Aspman is right in that peripheral devices are pretty cheap, however I wouldn't rush out and buy any just yet. See if you can borrow a serial mouse or a USB mouse and try that. If it works in both Windows and Linux, that would suggest that your PS/2 connection is dodgy.

Refurbished devices usually have a 90 day warranty on them, so I would take it back. If that is not an option then I would buy cheap USB peripherals which should work just fine.

We really need a test with a non-PS/2 device to confirm or rule out the possibility of a bad connection?

If non-PS/2 devices have the same problem then there is no point in replacing the peripherals. It must be something else.

:)

I'd look carefully through the options in the BIOS setup about
the reassignnent of irq12. In the past it was simple. IRQ 12
was always used by the ps2 mouse port. Later, after people
began to use usb mice, they began to allow irq 12 to be reassigned
via plug and play to other devices.

As a last resort, try a different video card, or go with a usb mouse.
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