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Hi all
I just want to say that the cellular technology is on the boom and everyone is carrying a cellphone. Mreover they are getting more and more complex by workin as close as possible like computers(E-mai, word,excel documents etc..). Virus threats for the same are also growing.
So it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a forum dedicated to cellphones, pda's and other such wireless gadgets.
Whats your opinion.
This has been proposed before, and the same objections still apply.
1. Virus and malware that a cell phone/ portable device can be subjected to is covered in the virus and the spyware/malware forums, and there would not be any reason to duplicate the information.
2. There has not been enough posts, or sufficient interest shown in just cell phones and or portable devices.
This is of course just my opinion on the matter though.
1- If you have a suggestion you have to post it in the "Site Suggestions Forum" not in the GCC.
2- No one will post something better than Moxnix's why-not-to.
Cool post Moxnix.
Cheers
Personally, I think the cellular topic is already covered in the "Wirless security forum. Okay, it's a different kind of wireless but it's still a wireless security issue in my opinion.
And I do agree with Moxnix, although point 2 might not be valid in the near future, when development tools for cellular devices will become more popular. Then again, many smartphones are usign Windows Mobile or Windows CE, which should be covered in the Microsoft security forum. And of course the many PalmOS systems which are covered in... Hey, those systems do miss their own forum! :)
So basically, a forum for PalmOS and propriety cellular systems would be an option if there was enough interest in it. Apparantly so far there's just not enough interest, I guess.
I don't agree with moxnix, it's better to have a forum early with 20 topics then too late when every other security site has the forum and active discussions, if you make it earlier, search engines will turn up AO when looking for cellphone security.
IMHO.
Good point ©opy®ight, and one I never even considered. Although I am not sure if we really need to advertise with an incomplete and very sketchy forum.
well, it is not a matter of racing others without a clear reason or cause, having a forum dedicated to cell phone security will be just idle and inactive unlike the rest of the forums we have in AO.
Cell phones security is still very seldom term and at a local level compared to other security issues, and not a very hot topic to discuss, we still need some time to get to that point, IMHO.
Do you think that Cellphone forum will be really active? I don't think so.
I think it's actually a very good idea. He didn't just mention cell phones...other gadgets also include things like the PSP which just got an internet browser with it's newest upgrade. People are already developing cool apps that you can use, such as PSP IRC. (Previous to this firmware upgrade, you had to use Wipeout Pure's browser). The truth is, more devices are going online and more and more apps are becoming available to download for them. Perhaps it doesn't have to be strictly a security related forum, but it wouldn't hurt under general technology.Quote:
Originally posted here by Mystery Man
Hi all
I just want to say that the cellular technology is on the boom and everyone is carrying a cellphone. Mreover they are getting more and more complex by workin as close as possible like computers(E-mai, word,excel documents etc..). Virus threats for the same are also growing.
So it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a forum dedicated to cellphones, pda's and other such wireless gadgets.
Whats your opinion.
Whether or not devices are online may not even matter. There are still as yet unsolved obstacles in the process of forensically recovering data from these devices. Whether we're dealing with cellphones, pda's, ps2's, refrigerators, or gas pumps, security is not the only issue. And security is still an issue even when these devices are not online.
Gas pumps need to be programmed securely or they can be tampered with. Inventory control RF handhelds are not Internet able in most cases, but security is still a huge issue. If I arrest a drug dealer, you can bet I want to see whose numbers he's got stored in his phone. I also need to be able to prove that I didn't plant them there, ehich is a field still very much in its infancy.
So I think what we're looking for is a forum dealing with embedded technologies, not specifically those which are online and/or employing wireless communications.
But I do agree it may still be too early to add another forum for which I cannot find any related posts in the last few months. Perhaps if it was headed by someone knowledgable in the field who can generate good discussion.
Hey Hey,
I think this is a lousy idea... As Katja already mentioned we have a Wireless Security forum that mentions that it includes Cell Phones, PDA's, etc...
Striek has made a good point about the forensics of these devices, but we have a forensics forum already and if people have the option of posting something on forensic recovery of an embedded device in either the Forensics Forum or a new Embedded Device forum... it'll be too many options, we'll see double posts from newbies, this way Forensics can all stay concise... Securely programming gas pumps can easily fall under the programming forum... RF handhelds would be wireless still... Whether or not it is on the internet is irrelevant... wireless is wireless... Recovering numbers from a cell phone and proving you did... Forensics Forum.
Any of the topics that come up related to these devices are going to fit in another forum be it Forensics, Viruses, Scams, Hardware, Wireless, Programming, etc.. AO is, for the most part, about fairly broad forums.... I think that a forum of this nature would be a little too specialized.
Peace,
HT
I refer you to our 2 newest additions:
Training/conference which has a whopping 4 posts in the last two months...and 4 posts total...
and...
Regulatory Compliance which has 100 posts ( of which I'm probably responsible for a third of the threads started...in fact I am )...which has had 0 ( zero ) posts in the last 30 days...and if it wasn't for Aspman's pr0n thread it'd only have 39 posts.
New forums have to have a generalized interest and not cater to a specific clientel...you may have a great idea for a forum, but if the only people interested in it are low posters it's going to be a dead forum.
This is where a forum benefits from it's post whores...people who post frequently...as opposed to those who post infrequently...to kick-start a new forum you have to have the interest of at least one good post whore...
a forum can be the greatest idea since sliced bread....but...if the only people interested in it are members who post 10 times a month...then...I refer you back to the 2 previously mentioned new additions.
Even Security News...another relatively new addition...got started by whoring ( intmon whored his way through the first threads )...of the 93 threads started 46 of them have been started by myself and intmon ( 20 and 26 respectively )...
Eg ;)
Hrmm, when you have forums on here such as "General Computer Discussions", "Misc. Security Discussions", "Wireless Security", etc etc.. I mean, we've got quite a bit covered. Regardless, I see Christina's point concerning the PSP and everything going on with that. Newer app's are being accessible for download from the web, thus creating possibilities for security issues.