Here ya go folks.
http://tinyurl.com/7undd
--TH13
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Here ya go folks.
http://tinyurl.com/7undd
--TH13
Heh, awww.. too bad. Ya know, that Jim dude sure looks like some kind of weird female trans or something. Anyways, thanks for the link horsedude.. ;)
Haha, thats by far the best part of the article.Quote:
Microsoft's holy grail is a system that cranks out a new, generally bug-free version of basic Windows every few years, with frequent updates in between to add enhancements or match a competitor's offering.
Geeish !!!! i don't believe it micro$oft admitting something ? , finally they are
waking up.
For thehorse13 : i thought the line in your signature is from Paparoach - Scars.
Tend to agree with warlock - glad to see the giant is waking and smelling the coffee. Perhaps they'll write something of good use without bugs...like an o/s...
I think recently they have forgoten what an OS is. After all it is just an inviroment for applications to run in. It should not be a one stop solution for all operating needs.Quote:
Perhaps they'll write something of good use without bugs...like an o/s...
I'm confused. The headline on this thread says Longhorn (Vista) is broken. The article says Windows is broken, and kinda leads to Vista being the savior, etc.
Inquiring minds ...
Eh, horse?
Hi,
The way I read it, they seemed to be saying that their traditional development process was broken?
In the past, MS OSes have tended to be a development on top of a predecessor, whilst Longhorn (Vista) is supposed to be a major innovative departure? I guess that this has shown up the shortcomings in the development model?
:)
Yes, I agree with nihil
From page 1 of the article referenced above ( I loved this one ):
As I read it the article describes the changes in development methodology and ideology of Vista back toward old school to fix the unfixable original Longhorn.Quote:
Old-school computer science called for methodical coding practices to ensure that the large computers used by banks, governments and scientists wouldn't break. But ... companies like Microsoft didn't have time for that.
But I do have a problem nihil with your use of the word "traditional" when referencing Microsoft's development process. :D But then again, I guess they started that "tradition" that others now follow?
Hi IKnowNot
When I used the word "traditional" I was referring to Microsoft's traditions. For "old school" I would tend to use the term "classical" :D
Thanks TH13 for the great read.
Since that sounds so doggone familiar, why not just call it Winux? :DQuote:
Microsoft is now racing to move in that direction: developing a solid core for Windows onto which new features can be added one by one over time.
Wonder if the new features will be free?:rolleyes:
!~cheers~!
typo...Quote:
Ballmer announced recently to organiee the company into three major business units.
that part is 2nd paragraph from the bottom
Aside from the barely literate editing and journalism of the article ...
Think back to the mid-80's to early-90's and the state of the PC marketplace. There were few networks and the internet was in its infancy. The vast majority of PC's were standalone. The greatest threat was viruses downloaded from independent bulletin board systems, or copied from a floppy to the hard drive (i.e.; AnitEXE).
It was in this environment that Microsoft grew up. The company actively recruited programmers in bulk from university CS departments (free sodas, candy bars, food and all the technology you could want). Then, the programmers were worked hard, long hours for a couple years until they burned out and left. That was okay, Microsoft just recruited another bunch next semester. The code turned out by these kids was basic, classroom project type code. Nothing fancy or anything like you will see in many open source, elegant solutions.
This model or culture, or whatever you want to call it, is a huge problem now. Microsoft is trying very hard to overcome that. It hasn't been and won't be easy. MS is still a very powerfully competitive organization, but it has grown and is no longer the nimble, lean and mean company it was. This kind of change has to drill down to the core of the business.
This is actually the best time for new companies to try to come up and supplant MS, while the company is in the process of trying to re-invent itself.
Sure...for Genuine Windows Advantage customers. Microsoft often offers many minor feature updates and plugins for free...powertoys and what not. They have also sold some, like the Plus+ software packages, but they always felt like glorified theme managers that simply hogged system resources.Quote:
Windows isn't "broken."
Broken implies that the product was at one point, "not broken."
Windows is "fux0red."
Im' just wondering, microsoft is obviously having huge problems with their new OS, vista. This is the second or third time they scrapped the code and restarted... So my question is, if vista turns out to be a total failure after all of this, could that be the beginning of the end to microsoft? Kind of like a domino effect? Because microsoft is obviously putting a ton of money and resources into this project... and judging by that article, things are looking like they kind of starting to fall apart, especially if this new software development method doesn't go to plan...
Windows isn't what makes MS its money, but it is the product that keeps the market share.
If Vista doesn't get off the ground, I doubt MS will crumble, but we will definitely see an increase in Linux/Unix/Mac.