So...you want to lose a few pounds...eh?

So...sitting on your butt in the IT department has made you put on a few pounds and made you...errrrr...fat...errrr...obese...errrr...heavy-set...errrrr...large boned...whatever...a cure is just around the corner :D...

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ntroducing: obestatin, a newly discovered hormone that suppresses appetite.

The finding, to be published in the Nov. 11 issue of Science, offers a key to researchers developing treatments for obesity. In a nation that desperately needs to slim down - the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates 65 percent of Americans over the age of 20 are either overweight or obese - obestatin is likely to generate interest from scientists and drugmakers alike.

The research was sponsored by Johnson & Johnson Pharmaceutical Research & Development, LLC, which has certain license rights to the discovery.

Researchers at the Stanford University School of Medicine uncovered obestatin by using the principles of evolution to pick clues from data held in the Human Genome Project, as well as the genome sequencing projects for many other organisms, among them, yeast, fruit flies and mice.

"Darwin led us to this new hormone," said senior author Aaron Hsueh, PhD, an endocrinologist and professor of obstetrics and gynecology. Jian V. Zhang, PhD, a postdoctoral scholar in Hsueh's laboratory, is the lead author.

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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1112124759.htm
Stanford Scientists' Discovery Of Hormone Offers Hope For Obesity Drug

Why not just eat healthy, eat smaller portions and exercise more?

Hi MsM,

I knew a guy that did that once...too bad he got hit by a car. Eating healthy didn't make him live any longer :D Why spend your life depriving yourself of the joy of eating?

Eg ;)

Alright...where is Galdron when you need him?...the house Chef must be heard! :D

hormones are not something to play with, I won't be eating pills or whatever that play with my hormones, this is my own belief. I'd rather go to the gym and exercise severely {and die there} over treating fatness with homones. :)

MsM's point sounds great, eat less and exercise more....

Cheers :)

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Yeah, like THAT'S gonna happen :D

bring on the pills :)

It all comes down to how much you want it. Its a simple problem,

eat more + doing less = fat (or what ever you want to sugar coat it as)

so then

eat less/the same amount = less fat

just increase your output, decrease your input or sustane the input and your set. Basicly chips and office chairs dont mix, no matter how much we love them :)

I'm only going to eat it when it's called McStatin and comes super sized with fries.

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Exactly.

I did gain quite a bit of weight over the past couple of years. 3 months ago, I finally had enough of it. I was having a hard time tying my shoes, and I felt a lot of things shaking when I was going up and down stairs. I had to get rid of the flab.

I started exercising 6 days a week. I do 1-2hrs of cardio 6 days and weights + cardio 2 days. I went from 180lbs to 155lbs and I've gained some muscle. I still have a lot of work to do, but I'm well on my way.

I found it quite difficult to do all the cardio because I was a smoker. So, I quit smoking too. I'm going on my thrid week of not smoking and I haven't cheated once! In order to quit smoking, I had to quit coffee and alcohol though... for me, they go hand in hand.

I've been real irritable... but I haven't cheated. When I want a smoke, I do situps, or push ups or go for a brisk walk or whatever. Though... now I am ALWAYS hungry. I'm burning way more calories than I'm taking in... hense, burning fat.
Anyway, I hope I can keep it up.

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I swear, people need to realize getting the heart rate up and drinking the recommended amount of water a day is the key to losing weight. Unfortunately that cost time, which is something a lot of Americans can't spare while being a slave to the dollar. At the very top is stress, which only compounds our nations problem. Eating healthy with the two main keys will greatly accelerate the weight losing process. With a lot of these "diet trends" they leave out water and exercise.


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Congrats on not smoking

I gained some weight to after i quit smoking 2,5 years ago. Me too i started to cycle more and eat less,
It works and rewards the hard work. But even i still have 5 kgs to go i never ever want to smoke again and go back to what i used to do. Smoking makes you lazy.

Anyway, phish congratz and keep up the good work. I find all that the best choice in my life atm ... Its really worth it.
One thing that helped me quitting was telling myself the next line over and over again. "You don't lose something (your cig, your buddy), you gain something (your health and overall fitness).

Cheers,

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Thats how I'm doing it. I'm going through about 4 or 5 40oz bottles of water a day. I replaced coffee and soda with water. I'm not eating fried foods and only eating lean meats and lots of veggies. I haven't eaten fast food once. I'm laying off white breads and pasta and now eating wheat breads and pasta. I think it even tastes better... Oh, and I even started taking vitamins, creatine and lots of protein for the energy and fast repair of muscles.

I wish I had taken before and after photos. Though, its still not too late. I still hve about 2 inches to loose on my waist. I was up to a 36 inch waist! Now, my 34s are baggy! lol I can see all the wear marks in my belt. I'm going down a notch no my belt every couple of weeks.

I'm getting a lot of complements on how I look better. But, I'm also getting a lot of sh17 from my friends because I can't go out to drink. They are mostly smokers and drinkers, so I'm staying away for now.

However, I'm having a lot more trouble sleeping at night now. I often get headaches from not smoking and no caffiene. Excedrin helps becuase it has caffiene... but its not the same.

Thanks for the words of encouragement. They are certainly needed and appreciated. :)

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phishphreek80

Keep at it, I quit the tobacco 7yrs ago after smoking for at least (from 12 to 43 = 31 yrs), I have felt great since. Eating was a problem at first but it's amazing what sunflower seeds will do for you (saltless of course).

I found that the best way to avoid the dreaded beer at lunch (because everyone knows that you must have a beer in one hand and a smoke in the other, or else you end up picking your nose or something like that) with your alpos was to bury myself in work, until the urges disappeared.Also doesn't hurt to get good support from friends.

Eventually it does get better. ;)

As for losing weight, I figure with the amount of money that has been invested into my gut, I would rather not lose it, thank you very much. :p

Yeah, dropping that bread will work wonders, especially if you're big on bread. I can't spell losing worth a crap today. Any way I've been losing a little weight do to more running. That's my deal until I recover from a shoulder injury.

My specs:
Meso-Ectomorph
Height: 6' 2"
Weight: 198 lbs
Shoulders: 52 ½"
Reach: 76 ¼"
Chest: 48"
Biceps: 17 ½"
Forearms: 14"

I've been getting advice from a buddy for a few years now.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4343/18eu.jpg

As you can see his workout routine on his arms is impressive.

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Remeber muscles have memory.

Ok, here we go - A thread to which I can relate.

In april of 2003 I was involved in an incident which left me severely injured in my lower spine and in need of 3 surgeries.

2 years later after doing nothing but sitting on my arse, having the occasional surgeries, and drinking dr pepper I'd gained 60 lbs.

So, last July when the doc released me to return to work I started the new chapter in my life called 'lose it all, fatboy' -

1. I now allow myself 1 (that's one 12 oz) dr pepper per day, period. I usually have it just before lunch.

2. I don't eat any less than I did before. Not being big on snacks, I'm eating only at mealtimes, and eating enough to get full. I *DO* pay attention to what I eat however. Being a basic carnivore, my preferred diet is meat, potatos, and bread. I now incorporate less meat and more fresh vegetables, especially of the green, leafy variety and celery.

3. I drink at least 2 gallons of water per day, one glass at a time. This has the additional effect of flushing years of built-up toxins out of my system.

4. (And MOST important!) I EXERCISE. I walk at least 5 miles per day, and try to jog at least 1 or 2 of it. I can't do sit-ups, but I can do leg extensions - so my abs get a good 30 minute workout every day. Pushups, and light weightlifting (bench-press, military press, curls, tricep extensions) keep my upper body in decent form and help me lose the man-breasticles.

So far I've lost 25 of those 60lbs and I'm not quitting until I hit 100lbs lost, which would put me at my old post-bootcamp 'fighting weight'.

What's next to conquer? Quitting smoking. I've gotta get my wind up so I can run all 5 of those miles I walk instead of only 1 or 2/5ths of it. I've also got to quit because of my heart. Most of all, I want to quit so I can live long enough to see my daughter graduate college and grow old with my wife.

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What's next to conquer? Quitting smoking. I've gotta get my wind up so I can run all 5 of those miles I walk instead of only 1 or 2/5ths of it. I've also got to quit because of my heart. Most of all, I want to quit so I can live long enough to see my daughter graduate college and grow old with my wife.

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Thats probably going to be the hardest. I've tried cold turkey... doesn't work for me. Maybe I don't have the will power. I'm now doing the patches. I just got one week worth to test and make sure I could make it the week. After the first week, the second was "easy". I have enough patches to last me another 3 weeks. The bad part... it cost me about $150 for 5 weeks... Which is you smoke a pack a day... at $4/pack (they're $3 here) then it only cost you another $10.

I'm going to try and drop the patch in five weeks... but i'm still on the highest nicotine patch. I have to phase that down the next two weeks and then maybe I'll jump to the lowest patch. I just don't want to rush it. They say you should be on step 1 for 6-7 weeks... I'm doing it in 3. Then step 2 for 2 weeks and then step 3 for 2 weeks. Hope it works. If not... I'll get the higher patches.

I'm using a firefox extention "quitomzilla" and a stand alone "quitkeeper" program to keep track of how much I have not smoked, how much $ I've "saved" and how much life I've saved. Though, since I'm on the patch... I really haven't saved anything. I've spent more. But my taste and smell is sharper than I can ever remember. Not to mention... I don't smell like an ashtray! I didn't realize how much you "stink" when you smoke.

I rewarded myself early and got a 20gig mp3 player (RCA LYRA) for $125 from KMart for when I'm doing cardio. It REALLY does help. It has a 10hr battery and it is rechargable. Not to mention, it has a FM tuner. Not as nice of a UI as the iPod, but I couldn't bring myself to spend $300 on an ipod that had less features and no accessories. My LYRA came with 3 chargers (AC to DC converter for wall, DC adapter for car, and USB for the comptuer.

I know I should have waited to reward myself... but I needed it for exercise. I was getting bored on the ski machine, eliptical, jogging, roller blading, etc. I'm doing just about every exercise you can think of at the moment.

!mitationRust: Is that you in that PIC? Or you buddy? My goal is not to get anywhere near that... just bulk up a bit. I wouldn't mind the chest and abs, but I don't want the arms and shoulders that big. We'll see how I feel in a couple of months. Right now, I've been happy with the results I've been seeing the past 3 months.

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What do you mean by that? My workout has been this:

Monday: Cardio (rollerblade/walk&jog/ski machine and/or eliptical)
Tusday: Cardio (ski machine and/or eliptical) and weights (incline/flatbench press, military press, butterflies (dumbells), situps (floor, ab lounge and ab slide), biceps (dumbells), triceps(dumbells and lat bar), squats (dumbells))
Wednesday: Same as Monday
Thursday: Same as Tuesday
Friday: Same as Monday + Shoulder and Back on "Total Gym"
Saturday: Same as Monday+ Shoulder and Back on "Total Gym"
Sunday: Rest

I'm taking creatine every day and I have a weight gainer drink before my weight workouts. Then a protein shake after all of my workouts. Cardio and weights.

Vitamins: GNC Pro Gold or whatever. They're in the car... Take them in the morning and before my workout.
I'm using GNC's creatine.
I'm using Cryo Gainer by Muscle Milk for the gainer.
Muscle Milk protein.
No fat burners.

My diet thus far:

Morning: Granolla bar
Morning Snack: Dried Fruit and Mixed Nuts
Lunch: Campbells Select Soup (switch between different flavors/types)
Afternoon Sanck: Dried Fruit and Mixed Nuts
Dinner: Chicken/Tuna/Turkey/Steak/Lean Beef (hamburger) & Mixed Vegtables or Salad and a Fruit

Ha........ wait until you get addicted to fitness and water. I'm roiling when I don't get my sets in. It started with the 24hr gym, and then I picked up enough equipment to start my own regular gym. I still go to the gym because we have one less than a mile away. I only run in there because they have mad college girls and MILFs on the aerobic equipment 24-7. I use some of their concentrated equipment too, some equipment one just can't afford. Just wait, you'll be addicted before next summer!

No that's my buddy in the picture; he's been lifting for years. He just got back from Iraq not too long ago. I think those are 22" pipes on him, maybe more.

Here's me a few years back, this is when I was comparing my pipes to his. I've since repaired that RIP tattoo: http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/1347/18zg1.jpg

When I hurt my shoulder I knew exactly what I did, and I knew right then how long it would screw me. I was trying to get the under side of my pecs a little more mass. I was doing a decline press with 60lb. dumbbells after I was finished I sat up and went to set one of them down and I felt a very slight awkward feeling in my shoulder. That's why it is so crucial to follow through with good form even when laying the weights down. I rested for a week and just ran, it hurt a little on cross-country and on the treadmill. I knew it was bad when I went to do my twenty pull ups and I couldn't complete ten. I'm still doing physical therapy to get back at my full routine.

When I said muscle memory I meant this. http://www.thinkmuscle.com/articles/...cle-memory.htm


I used to be big into supplements........ whey shakes..... I really love Twin Labs amino fuel anabolic liquid ( it can really rebuild) I drink lemonade too, it's good for the prostate.

I'm not really on a strict diet. I used to be on just egg whites, rice cakes, whey and red meat. I still eat rice cakes and peanut butter. I have an extremely high metabolism so I eat what I want.

As long as you don't forget about the bonuses that come with working out... the young tenders are why I'm in the game.

If you really want to lose some weight, try the meth diet! You can lose 15 pounds in 2 days, guaranteed!

Yeah, until you're addicted and clear **** starts to bubble out your lips and face. Then it's your teeth......... you'll come out of that diet looking like a hype.

I didn't know that muscles have a "memory". That could explain why I'm seeing the results I've been seeing lately. I used to work out often, but then I fell off for quite a few months. I lost all my mass and put on quite a bit of flab. I was surprised to see such quick results. Guess I now know why... kind of depressing...

What do you guys use to track your workouts and progress? I have been working on an Excel type tracking workbook?

Also - for my diet, which I am working on refining, still consists of some bread - Sara Lee 100%Multigrain - for the bread. My favorite breakfast setup is a reduced fat peanut butter/honey/bread or peanut butter/banana/bread sandwich with some skim milk.

Also - I saw on Spike TV that one of the supplment brand they are pushing is Xyience: http://www.xyience.com/ - any try that stuff.

Multivitamin - GNC "Megaman" - but I still can't fly or change out my arms for guns yet.

phishphreek80, !mitationRust and |3lack|ce - congrats on your progress so far - reading this thread just motivated my ass to make sure I stay on track so I can see results like you guys! I noticed that when I got out of the service I put on the pounds - now it is taking more effort than ever to take them off and swearing off the junk - but it's a coming. Thanks!

P.S. - One thing I did start back up again to change up the workouts - and add to them was to restart study in Shorin Ryu Karate. Great exercise and stress relief. Starting up with yoga again as well.

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Nothing at the moment. I used to have a nice utility for my palm pilot that I used to keep track of everything. I know... very geeky. I did it outside the gym. I didn't want the muscle heads to beat my ass. I know they were already laughing at me... lol

I'm still eating some multigrain wheat bread. Your breakfast sounds good. One of my favorite combos. I may replace my granolla bar in the AM for that. I find myself starving before lunch and thats why I have the morning snack of dried fruit and mixed nuts. I've been eating the Pepperidge farms brand though.

I have not tried the xyience stuff. I've also seen it on Spike TV. The UFC guys take it.

I have tried a couple of different fat burners. I tried Stacker 3 XPC for a couple of weeks. It made me very very shaky. I stopped taking it though, becuase I felt like my heart was going to beat out of my chest. Not to mention, when I was taking it... I smoked a crap load more. I suspect that any of the other products out there would do the same. Its counterproductive to my quitting smoking... so, let me know what you think of it if you try it.

For tracking my progress I use a good old-fashioned paper brain and a pencil. One page = one day, and I write what my goals are the night before, and what I actually accomplished post-workout. Not too shabby so far considering on day 1 week 1 I could run a total of 100 yards without breathing hard with chest pains - and today I covered 1.5 miles before needing to stop, without chest pains.

My diet consists of fried chicken, pizza, pork steak and roast, blade steak/fat attached, various hearty pasta dishes, English muffins, Canadian bacon, back bacon, pealmeal bacon, fried potatoes, corn, peas, hamburgers, hot dogs, eggs, and a few other lovely dishes...





and that's just for breakfast! :D

Eg! Ouch!

I'll exercise enough for the both of us tomorrow.

Then I think I'll have grilled chicken wrapped in bacon with cheese and mushrooms and onions... mmmm

So this supresses appetite, eh? Looks like models won't have to do coccaine anymore. Huzzah!

Weight has never been an issue for me. I actually have to eat like a pig to stay in shape. I have a hyper metabolism and usually have to consume 3,500 calories a day along with about an hour of weight-lifting to prevent becoming a twig and stay built. Alot of people think they would enjoy it, but honestly it's just the opposite side of the coin of being fat.

From Society's point of view, being a twig is a lot better than being fat.

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for me it is better for being than twig :D .... twig is malnourished :mad:

Hah........ they both look like you're dying.

Man I can't stress how important it is to get real food for our brain. Flushing all toxins out through diet are important so you don't have those negative moods. (The moods bitching about working out today.) I like buying those giant bags of simple salads from SAMS, COSTCO etc... DOLE came out with these "All-Natural Fruit in Plastic Jars, there's no cutting, slicing or peeling." OMG............ these are friggin great in fruit salads, just fruit and salad leafs. I have precooked marinated chicken packages when I'm not marinating mine in salad dressing. I'm not a picky eater so I'll eat anything, but man I am susceptible to being burnt-out on foods. You have to switch it up on those salads, and with that fruit is how I do it. I like putting a NY strip on a salad too, dressed with O'Charleys honey mustard. I eat loads of fish because they are friggin packed with protein but low in saturated fat and cholesterol. Avocados are a great source of fat and contain tons of micronutrients fiber and good fats. I'm currently addicted to homemade salsas and dips. Too many foods that are good for you to post. Olive oil is awesome. Nuts and seeds have the good fats and oils in them. Spread out your daily three meals into snacks and then eat smaller portions when you eat your meals. Your body can burn it off like that and you don't go hungry throughout the day. You don't want to blow all your hard work on giant dinners trying to make up for lost meals. I don't touch pastas after noon. BTW Yogurt burns fat. If you like hamburgers you can grind your own meat, that way you can eat it medium rare with little fat.

Buying in bulk saves, I have a little under $50 in water right now.......shaving cream, I have cases of that......toilet paper.lol


FDA Nutritional Pyramids : http://www.mypyramid.gov/

Dole: http://www.dole.com/Products/Product...oupID=5&ID=223

Brain foods: http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neur...Slaughter.html

Yeah you need music to get that tunnel vision and selective hearing. If your mind is distracted from the fibers tearing down it won't convince your body to quit because of "pain". That's why having a spotter to chat with makes a few hours in the gym go bye like 45min.

One of my favorites for the San Quentin bench press is "game got switched ~ Ludacris". Turn up the vega 12's.


I hate it when it's too many niggaz, not enough hoes
Too many rookies, not enough pros
The game got switched on some Ludacris ****
So all y'all can suck my.....