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"AP and UPI reported today that the French government announced that it has raised its terror alert level from "Run" to "Hide." The only two higher levels in France are "Collaborate" and "Surrender." The raise was precipitated by a recent fire which destroyed France's white flag factory, thereby disabling its military."
Seriously, nobodys talking about this?
All those nice islamic "youths" just need someone to "reach out to them".
ROFL
Goodluck to the french dealing with all the fires,fire bombs,car smashing etc.... They dont seem to rule with such and iron fist after all :)
What's there to talk about ... they did this to themselfs (French government that is).Quote:
Seriously, nobodys talking about this?
They made some kind of insult to the youth living in those ghettos and it wasn't taking lightly ...
Then the French government react on it totaly wrong ..as usual ...
The police was not given enough "free game" to do what had to be done and the riots grew more intence.
Everything they do has the wrong effect ... (and then to think they have the perfect weapon for dealing with these hooligans ... they have an army of ex-criminals and ex-hooligans (french foreign legion) ..Why don't they use them to clean up the neighborhood.)
Anyway ... It's all a disgrace ... imagine you living there minding your own bussiness and your car gets torched ... it's your only transportation to your only very underpayed job that can just about pay an appartment in the neighborhood of those ghettos...how screwed over would you feel.
(just an example but none the less existing I'm sure). Insurance won't pay you because it's not in the policy ... (Yeah the car is insured against fire sir/madam but this is an act of hooliganism, that's different :rolleyes: :mad: )
They have shown some documentries about the situation ... it's all f**ked up ..now there's talk about rewriting the law so that certain individuals who don't have the French nationality can get deported quicker ...
And so on ... I tell you ...what's there to talk about ;)
C.
The problem, as I see it, is the French with their Laissez-faire attitude, their holier then thou, their we are better then you sh*t.
They just don't get it........their arrogance is catching up to them, while they sat around critising everyone else about their problems (US, UK, mostly anybody who belongs to NATO) they forgot to check their own back yard.
This has been a long time coming, I have always felt that the Parisian French were mostly bigots, I say this because they don't consider Quebecois or Acadian or Cajun French as being of the pure French.
When I was in Bordeaux with the Navy, we had a lot of lads on board from Quebec who were, understandably excited about going to the "homeland", just like we get when we slip into any ol UK port......unfortunatley what they got was a rude awakening, normally it would be mostly the Anglos on board the ship who would find a hard time in a French port, not so, just about most of the Quebec kids got into a lot of scraps with the locals, because of their differences in speaking the French language.
We used to frequent this cafe on the waterfront near where our ship was tied up and the owner had two of the largest dogs I have ever seen, and they were trained to attack people of colour (lots of Moroccans come through Bordeaux), they were pretty up front about this as well, like it was okay to have animals attack people of colour.
So I am not surprised to see this internal uprising of sorts, I do agree that the rioters are basically cutting their own throats though, because if is about jobs, then why are they burning down the companies that could hire them.
I think though, they should round up all of the Muslim extremists and airdrop them into Iran, that way we can make sure they are all together when the drop the big one. ;)
Dalek, due to your unauthorised use of the French words 'Laissex-faire' in a non-French posting on privately owned web page the entire French IT industry is going on strike until the French government return all website using French in anyway to public ownership.
Meanwhile wine makers are going on strike because no-one wants to buy crap wine (spiked with glycol for flavour) but they're entitled to get EU funding to make wine coz they're French and that's what they do. Plus all farmers are going to stike because other nations have the audacity to buy things from other countries and even sell things to France even though French farmers are paid to grow food no-one wants.
All stikers are to head to Calis to hinder trade with the rest of Europe and burn some sheep, just for the hell of it.
Is it Foxy or Nihil that has the 'France, irrelevant for 500 years sig' tis very true.
I've only been to france a couple of times, I've never met such a bunch of rude arrogant bastards. Every person from other European contries I've me was perfectly nice, Americans I've met have been very nice (bar one student who didn't like us refering to her as a septic), and Canadians (even when we wound them up by calling them Americans or Yanks). But the French, wall them in and drop white phos until the place is cleaned out.
France is a lovely country..
It's just too bad it is inhabited by them French..
Ok.. enough fun with foreigners for now..
Here's some cool images
Yeah, that happened to us once when we took a cab ride from Rosyth to Edinburgh :p we just responded by calling him a "limey", talk about braveheart, sheesh, good thing we outnumbered him 8 to 1 (amazing how many tars you can cram into a cab to save the coin for the important stuff). :DQuote:
and Canadians (even when we wound them up by calling them Americans or Yanks).
http://www.seeklyrics.com/lyrics/Jim...ning-Down.htmlQuote:
Sisters and brothers daddys mothers standin' 'round cryin'
When I reached the scene the flames were makin' a ghostly whine
So I stood on my horse's back an' I screamed without a crack
I say oh baby why'd you burn your brother's house down ?
:cool:
I would join in the French bashing and chanting of "they had it coming" or simular, but Dalek said it first.Quote:
Originally posted here by dalek
The problem, as I see it, is the French with their Laissez-faire attitude, their holier then thou, their we are better then you sh*t.
They just don't get it........their arrogance is catching up to them, while they sat around critising everyone else about their problems (US, UK, mostly anybody who belongs to NATO) they forgot to check their own back yard.
This has been a long time coming, I have always felt that the Parisian French were mostly bigots,
Although, Kudos Tedob1. That was pretty damn funny.
Tah Raaah : actually it says 150, but they are working on it :DQuote:
Is it Foxy or Nihil that has the 'France, irrelevant for 500 years sig' tis very true.
this is the second attempt to post
the first was full of witticisms and satire
but is was also full of emoticons, and the site said no, and when I went back the cupboard was bare :eek: thats two .....
suffice to say that they had it coming, they have a terrible record for 'caring' for those they consider to be non-U [old time brit humour - if you listen real hard, you'll hear nihil busting a gut :D] three
to paraphrase it all
they will never learn, and what goes around comes around
and to put it into French : Le Roi Est Mort, Vive Le Roi!
What's Leroy got to do with it...and sorry he died.
all the media is reporting that it was poor emigrants that were rioting. they insist that the fact they are muslim and started each nights riots with calls of allah akbar is not meaningful. i dont want to be an islamaphobe, jesus loves you, allah wants you dead type of guy so i ask...what do you all think. is this the start for a greater speration of their community and push for the rule of shari'ah. or just punks with too much time on there hands who could care less about religious matters.
Just put a wall around Cognac and Paris so my Cologne and Liquor of choice are OK, and torch the rest of the country. I can't stand france or the french language. And most of those people and their counterparts in Quebec can be HUGE *******s. They're dick heads, **** 'em.
All I can and gonna say about that is : It aint over until the Fat "person" sings !Quote:
so i ask...what do you all think. is this the start for a greater speration of their community and push for the rule of shari'ah. or just punks with too much time on there hands who could care less about religious matters.
And you all know what that means. ;)
C.
Would that be the "buddha" :D rub his belly for luck.......Quote:
All I can and gonna say about that is : It aint over until the Fat "person" sings !
Foxy, shouldn't that read Le Roi Est Merde, Vive Le Roi!
This is about turf!!! pure and simple, the fanatics (mullahs/clerics) see an opening to entrench their religious ways in France (re Europe). These so called leaders whip the unenlightened into frenzies and let them loose.Quote:
what do you all think. is this the start for a greater speration of their community and push for the rule of shari'ah. or just punks with too much time on there hands who could care less about religious matters.
The rest of Europe should pay close attention to this, as it will be coming to a location near you soon.
I have nothing against hard working law abiding (my Countries Laws) immigrants, these two nations US/Canada were created and built by immigrants, the problem with the latest generations of immigrants is their intolerance of other peoples cultures or laws.
It galled me back in the late 70's early 80's here in Canada, when we relented and allowed Sikhs to wear their turbans in the military (try putting a helmet on that)and blatantly allow them to carry their knives, sh*t I remember as a kid all the threats about getting caught with a knife on my person with a blade longer then 5", but If I were a Sikh, I could carry a G*dmn sword.
You can say what you want about Christiandom ( I am agnostic, and really have nothing nice to say about any religion, as all religions seriously F**ck people up)) but at least this religion is far more tolerant of other religions then say the Muslim followers, just look around, they are attacking christians in Indonesia (pop 200 Million, which a lot are Muslim).
I sometimes wonder, why we allow ourselves to be the subject of their derision and hate, when they are taking advantage of the very freedoms "our" forefathers allowed them, and not just pack them all on a plane and send them back to their so called paradises, I mean it must be better back in their old country, otherwise why are they always upset with the western people, just look, they can gather together in front of parliament/capitol hill and without fear of prosecution or intimidation spout off about the injustices the very hosts are doing to their people.
When those palestinians started to dance in public after 9/11 I lost any sympathy I may have had for those dispossed of their land.Everytime I see these people mug it up for the cameras by burning the flags, I wonder how they would feel, if every time a terrorist leader in the middle east was killed if maybe tens of thousands of US and Canadian citizens hit the streets and started dancing and yelling death to Allah and burning thier flags, how would they feel. But then again civilized people would not lower themselves to that level (oh to be uncivilised just for a moment!).
To be totatly honest I was farily impressed with the way the french police handled the riots. As long as the riots stayed restricted to surburban areas then they just limited the damages and protected the firemen and emergancy services. The rioters couldn't even complain of police brutality. There were a lot of complaints about the prison terms being handed out though. In the end the communitys were forced to get involved and reacte. Instead of sitting back and just bitching about the violence they had to get up and pull their kids in off the streets. I think the youngest person arrested in the riots was 10. What parent would let a ten year old out during riots?
Most of the crap about it being a islamic uprising was fabricated by the jihad sites on the internet. It was a bunch of crap. The riots were no different from the riots in the states or in Birmingham (badly spelt?).
Rub hard ...real hard :DQuote:
Would that be the "buddha" rub his belly for luck.......
I'm not saying (don't know if you were pointing at me but nayway ;) )that the police did a bad job ...heck ..after the first week or two they were given' "carte blanche" (to keep it french) meaning that they could act more "agressive" and take more prisoners (sounds like dungeons and dragons).Quote:
To be totatly honest I was farily impressed with the way the french police handled the riots. As long as the riots stayed restricted to surburban areas then they just limited the damages and protected the firemen and emergancy services. The rioters couldn't even complain of police brutality. There were a lot of complaints about the prison terms being handed out though. In the end the communitys were forced to get involved and reacte. Instead of sitting back and just bitching about the violence they had to get up and pull their kids in off the streets. I think the youngest person arrested in the riots was 10. What parent would let a ten year old out during riots?
They arrested over 1000 people by now I think ... 300 persons the first 2 nights alone ...the torching and damaging came to a minimum fast ...so they did a very good job ...all I meant was that they weren't given' the proper "tools & methods" to act on this threath in the beginning becuase the government was afraid of the "public" reaction .... right ...if those f**kers toast my car ..I don't care about political correctnes mr. President ...nooo sir :rolleyes:
Anyway ...had to say this...
C.
I've never had ANY tolerance for those who take to the streets to terrorise and destroy.
for the UK, we had the Toxteth [Liverpool] riots in the early 80's, and on the TV were these f****rs speaking in every accent bar scouse, saying that it was all the police's fault :eek:
I would have gunned 'em down, and to hell with the consequences.
Clean streets using the good old tried and tested methods that worked so well in China's Tiananmen Square, Peking. :o
we all want peace and quiet in our lives, we all want what is best, yet if our [western] governments attempted anything like that they would be history.
our greatest strength [democracy] is also our greatest weakness, as it allows those who bode us ill to have free access to the very heart of society, it may come that we have to forgo these 'freedoms' so that this problem can be eradicated once and for all......
but that will give those civil liberty leeches ANOTHER payday
[maybe we could spare some ammo to finish THEM off too ???]
Cemetric,
I wasn't pointing to any one I was just makeing a comment. Believe me the police were kept on a very tight reine all through the riots. They barely even deployed the riot police (CRS) and believe me you dont want to be in the area when those guys are let loose.
yeah those darn'd French Riot Police....you would have to hope they wanted to come back after this last mission to quell pretty bad rioters.Tahiti
Mind you it was 2004 ;) but those terrible Tahitians (all 10 of them) needed to be brought to heel, by the mighty French Gendarme. I don't think they could of gotten them out of the "Maginot line" fast enough to stop these rioters. :pQuote:
Early this month, the French government sent 300 riot police from mobile gendarme units to the Pacific island of Tahiti following a major upset in the May 23 French Polynesian territorial elections. In a reversal of 20 years of Gaullist political rule, President Gaston Flosse’s incumbent Tahoeraa Huiraatira Party (Popular Union, THP) lost its majority, winning only 28 seats in an expanded 57-seat assembly. The French government justified the police deployment on the grounds that it was necessary to maintain “law and order” and for the electoral process to proceed in a “serene” climate.
Gee and this was last year:
does anyone else see the correlation.....Quote:
The election exposed overwhelming popular resentment over the Flosse administration’s policies, which have seen a worsening economic crisis, declining living standards and widening social inequality. The Tahitian class structure reflects the worst features of colonial rule. An affluent ruling clique, subsidised by the French state, enjoys a privileged lifestyle. Highly paid French expatriate civil servants, for instance, earn 84 percent higher salaries than their counterparts in France and are required to pay no personal income tax. Meanwhile, an estimated 20,000 poor and unemployed Tahitians live in slums or bidonvilles on the outskirts of Pape’ete.
sound familiar.Quote:
Causes of the French Revolution include the following:
* Resentment of royal absolutism.
* Resentment of seigneurialism by peasants, wage-earners, and, to a lesser extent, the bourgeoisie
* The rise of enlightenment ideals.
* An unmanageable national debt, both caused by and exacerbating the burden of a grossly inequitable system of taxation.
* Bad economical situation, partly because of France's involvement and aid in the American Revolution.
* Food scarcity in the months immediately before the revolution.
* Resentment at noble privilege and dominance in public life by the ambitious professional classes.
It would never work in France Foxy. Not with those French tanks - 1 forward gear and 6 reverse.Quote:
Originally posted here by foxyloxley
Clean streets using the good old tried and tested methods that worked so well in China's Tiananmen Square, Peking. :o
One of my mates did a couple of tours in NI with the Black Watch. He was working at a riot there. He shot some guy in the bollocks with a rubber bullet.
That worked quite well for calming rioters apparently.
in the words of 10cc [pop group in the late 70's]
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Load up, load up, load up with rubber bullets
Load up, load up, load up with rubber bullets
I love to hear those convicts squeal
It's a shame these slugs ain't real