look at the "recomended games"
and the games to "avoid"
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/arti...309990001#list
my brain is bleeding
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look at the "recomended games"
and the games to "avoid"
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/arti...309990001#list
my brain is bleeding
first the article deals with violence in video games, not the entertainment factor the games provide. the games listed as ones to avoid ARE extremely violent and graphic and i totally agree with the article that they have no place in the hands of younger children.
next, if you're looking for game reviews based on the entertainment factor, then go to ign or some other gaming site. taking lists out of context and over reacting to them is very unnecessary. :-\
i am tired of ppl who have KIDS to try to pawn their f-ing opinions and vaules on everyone else...
I WANT PORNO AND VIOLENCE ON TV AND IN VIDEOGAMES
i don't wanna take it off just because "you" have kids
stubbs the zombie is dangerous to childrens health... are you kidding me ...
what the hell is happening to US. all this censorship and morality makes me wanna go back to Europe. thank god i live in New York City ... i cannot even imagine what is it like for likeminded ppl down in south carolina and such
what does that have to do with that article? the article is about cannibalism appearing in new games and how a larger number of younger children are getting their hands on violent video games. it makes no reference to taking any violence out, just keeping the violent video games out of the hands of little kids, which doesn't stop you from pretending to be a klingon warrior and chopping heads off. that list is made for parents to know what games have violence and which games are child friendly.
Don't bother, it is exactly the same with us. However, I really don't see an issue here, the main gist of that article seems to be not about what the games contain, but who gets to see the content. If parents decide that it is suitable for their children, then that is their prerogative.Quote:
what the hell is happening to US. all this censorship and morality makes me wanna go back to Europe
The main problem that I see is the sloppy way in which the article was written and presented. It appears to try to warn parents about games that are considered unsuitable for young children, but does not give any details of why that conclusion was reached, or suggest suitable age groups.
:)
It all goes back to the (rather insane really) theory that viewing violence makes one violent. In the 60's the powers-that-be tried to censor rock music because it incited rebellion and violence. In the 80's it was "I killed that person because my favorite Metal artist told me to."
Now it's video games and pron on teevee.
Parents, censor your children. The rest of us are sick of our government and moral majority trying to do it for you.
On the same vein (sorta):
Recently a local video store in my hometown was closed down for renting porno vids.
This vid store had been in business since 1985. I know because I (legally) rented my first pron there in 1985. The pron was kept in a room separate from the other videos, blocked from the general public's view, and people were ID'd before they were allowed to enter.
20 years later the police finally realized they were renting porno flicks?
Sounds like some kind of money thing to me... If it were a moral issue they'd have been closed down 20 years ago when they first started doing it.
WTF?
I think that |3lack|ce has a point. Over here we have this "9 PM watershed for films with violence and strong language"
Whoever came up with that idea has obviously never passed a school playground :rolleyes:
Also, you cannot show a violent film until 9 PM, but you can show the real thing on the 6 o'clock news?
:confused:
I dunno, after playing all of those games with cannibalism, I want to go eat someone. As I play the game I lean back and say to myself very profoundly, "That's imitatable." :)
we live in strange times:
lemon juice contains lemon flavour : and lemon washing up liquid contains real lemon juice ...........
it's all gone Berty :D
Isn't the main problem here that video game ratings are decided by the industry itself rather than by some outside organ? If Rockstar Games decides to rate GTA "G", then that's perfectly possible...
"GTA, The Movie" on the other hand would probably get an R rating, make it illegal for movie theaters to allow youngsters younger than 17.
There is a discrepancy (at 16, you can't watch a movie where people snort coke, but you can play a professional coke-snorter in a video game at age 7), and I think it should be resolved. I personally believe that those ratings (be it for the movies or for the games) should be an indication, and not a law (thus not enforced) - if you're a parent who doesn't know anything about video games, I'm sure you would appreciate it if video games were rated decently (meaning, for example, that a game that endorses shooting cops shouldn't get a "G" rating, which is perfectly possible today...)... I also think that the game industry is doing a pretty decent job at self-governing itself, but the system is wide open for abuse...
My...isn't it interesting how times have changed :D...my father wouldn't be caught dead playing a video game...or in my day pinball...but the smarter we get and the more advanced road we travel, we need more ' games ' to play...
well...speaking as one of those " ppl " with those " KIDS " and" f-king opinions "...I think rating games is a good idea...it lets parents unfamiliar with the games know what to buy and what not to...it has no bearing on adults, who are not restricted in buying the games for themselves...OPPS! I forgot...I'm not speaking to an adult am I unhappy?!...at least one that hasn't yet thrown away his diaper...not that I'd like to intrude on your whine at all...Quote:
i am tired of ppl who have KIDS to try to pawn their f-ing opinions and vaules on everyone else...
I WANT PORNO AND VIOLENCE ON TV AND IN VIDEOGAMES
as for violent games breeding violence, or not...that's not the point...I wouldn't let my daughters watch pron...so why would I let a 7 year old watch violence...
that's just irresponsible....
now will someone please change unhappy's diaper before he starts whining again.
Eg ;)
Normally I don't go in for this insulting the poster thing...but in this case...on behalf of all those hard-working parents...I'm glad to make an exception.
That sounds cool, I got to look that up.Quote:
In "Stubbs the Zombie," the lead character eats the brains of humans as blood splatters across the screen.
I think that statement is key, the industry isn't doing anything wrong per se, the hysterical mob should be targetting outlets which sell to minors and the parents who buy them for the kids.Quote:
"It's not appropriate for kids and it is clearly labeled that way," said Halpin. "There are R-rated movies and DVDs."
A lot of people just don't want to take responsibility for their own actions.
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LOL just saw the survey on the right:
Yes absolutely, every video game should contain scenes of cannibalism.Quote:
Should video games contain scenes of cannibalism?
Harry Potter in Zombie Holocaust, My little Zombie, Action Zombie, SpongeBob Square Zombie etc, etc.
I think that people need to see that video games are here to stay and that they target a larger market other than kids. See people ages 20 to 35 are being targeted by these video game makers and they know what we want, Sex, Drugs, and lots and lots of Violence. You won’t see me playing Harry Potter, but slap GTA, FEAR, Battle Feild 2 and any other violent game and I’m Happy. My wife doesn’t understand what I get out of the games. I said they’re a stress reliever.
Christ I remember the day's when if I got caught reading a stupid comic book, I caught it from the old man, and yet at 13 my Mom let me put the centerfold of the May 1969 Playboy on my closet door, and wouldn't you know it, some old fart seen it and complained, well it had to come down :( (lived in an apartment and you could see into my bedroom from the back drive).
(I thought Mom was pretty cool for that.)
Like has been said before, it is up to the parents to limit or censor what their children get to watch, but ever since the boob tube (instant babysitter) arrived, parents have become more and more detached to what goes on in a kid's life, I mean really, you may try to stop little Joey from playing that particular bad video game, but if he goes over to Paul's house how are you going to monitor that?
I have two grown children, and they have had access to computers as well as video games and lyrics (I like Ozzy), my oldest (the boy) started to listen a few years back to groups like slayer,poison,manson and the like, I was kinda concerned, but then I reached back into the old memory block, and remembered what it used to be like as a teen, and I figured, you are going to have to place some faith and trust in your child at some point, they are going to make mistakes in life, that's how it should be, we as parents have to be careful not to sanitize everything they come into contact with, those that do are doing a child a disservice, because at some point they will leave the nest and it's an ugly world out there, and if you have cloistered them, they will find it real difficult to adjust.
The Gov't definatley should not (remember tipper) get involved, the industry needs to police itself better, and adults need to get educated as to what is out there and available.
Hi Dalek,
I would agree with that...it is up to the parents...however without proper labeling that would be virtually impossible...unless a parent was unemployed and could spend all day veiwing games, etc...to see which ones were appropriate.Quote:
it is up to the parents to limit or censor what their children get to watch
You don't...if Paul's parents aren't monitoring their kids then you don't let your kids go over there.Quote:
you may try to stop little Joey from playing that particular bad video game, but if he goes over to Paul's house how are you going to monitor that?
but it really depends upon what age we are talking about...whether we are talking about 7 or 17...if you would allow a child to veiw pron or play some of these games...I personally would consider you unfit to even be a parent.
Eg ;)
They recommend harry potter but shoot down farcry..????What am i missing here ppl..I have played farcry and yes it does seem to be a little scary with the monsters which are FICTION!!!if i am not mistaken..So to conclude , they reckon it is ok for a child to play harry potter but not farcry...In harry potter you have a mixture of witch craft,evil etc..A child can according to them clearly distingguish between fiction and reality as far as Harry Potter is concerned but not Farcry????????PLEASE!!!!!Correct me if i am wrong but they should then be able to see the difference in any game between reality and fiction..
Agreed. If anything, because of the obsessive culture surrounding Harry Potter it could be deemed more problematic as far as I'm concerned...Quote:
Originally posted here by vanman
A child can according to them clearly distingguish between fiction and reality as far as Harry Potter is concerned but not Farcry????????PLEASE!!!!!Correct me if i am wrong but they should then be able to see the difference in any game between reality and fiction..