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This was funny as hell to me but we all new it was coming. Xbox360 that just came out is the beta version. heres link with the facts.Quote:
Only weeks after the introduction of the Xbox 360, hackers appear to have cracked their way into the software that runs the Microsoft game console.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5...ml?tag=nl.e589
Whatever happened to getting a job and paying for stuff with the money you make...
lol at 300 a crack without the HD and what 400 with it and things that come with it. 450 to have it play the orginal xbox games. its out of control and its buggy as hell. wonder if the ps3 will be the same....noooo of course not. taking the source code out of it what gave me giggles. gore told me about it before it got hacked that it was buggy so i was like well not getting it this time and then all this happens.
An Audi A8 costs $80,000... I want one... desperately... I'm not happy with the A4.... let's steal one...
how about we steal both??? only 1 hard thing is finding 3 mclaren's...what theres only like 15 in the world?Quote:
Originally posted here by gore
For 80,000 you could get a BMW.... But you like Audi better somehow. But you know McLaren's whip the ass of any car ;) Nothing says German car better than one that does 0 - 100 in 4 seconds and is the fastest street legal car ever. :)
Yes, for 80k I could get some BMW... or I could get the prettiest car ever...
And stop talking about cars that cost over $1 million...
Minimum wage, over seas outsourcing, a poor education system, and a pop culture that is telling people to be stupid spoiled whores, or only care about money and dey bling. A capitalist society that will take your freedom if you owe it money. Howabout the fact that a small percentage of the country has most of its money.Quote:
Originally posted here by Negative
Whatever happened to getting a job and paying for stuff with the money you make...
I can see someone here supports paying for mp3 downloads prolly. Thats an assumtion. But it sounds like it. Look piracy is for the people. Piracy is people standing up and saying "You know what, **** this huge corperation that would sue a kid for having the website MikeRowSoft.com"
Haha... the mere fact that he doesn't own one should tell you that they're not worth it ;)
Grand theft AUTO is a big difference than a video game. Come on... get real Neg...
* uhmm... acctually i guess GTA is a video game too... but i was referring to Negs lets steal an audi comment... hehehehe
Like I said... whatever happened to getting a job and paying for the damn XBOX...Quote:
Minimum wage, over seas outsourcing, a poor education system, and a pop culture that is telling people to be stupid spoiled whores, or only care about money and dey bling.
You're trying to blame "the system" for you wasting money on crap...
Nah, i spend my money on "Rent" and like Bills.... ya know... after that, theres really not a lot left..
I think he can if he wanted one badly. Thats without selling anything and if he did i think he could.Quote:
Originally posted here by Negative
Haha... the mere fact that he doesn't own one should tell you that they're not worth it ;)
I could own a Ford if I wanted to... without selling anyting... but I don't for a reason... :D
... It's always easier to blame the system then to sit back and say : "Damn I am sucker ..."Quote:
Like I said... whatever happened to getting a job and paying for the damn XBOX...
You're trying to blame "the system" for you wasting money on crap...
You know what they say ... "There's a Sucker Born Every Minute "...
That should now read "Every Second".....Quote:
Originally posted here by Agent_Steal
... It's always easier to blame the system then to sit back and say : "Damn I am sucker ..."
You know what they say ... "There's a Sucker Born Every Minute "...
The way I read the article was, what started out in the early stages of gaming (cheat codes) has turned into trying to own the platform outright, so that pirated games can be played and modified, is that any different from the original game software programmers slipping in backdoors or other codes?? (GTA for one) or the "easter egg" which is almost a dare to the hackers/crackers to see what can be found, the whole enviroment is geared to what can be taken as opposed to what can be bought.......it doesn't help when the media glorify those that take delight in hacking/Cracking, take Zdnet for example, by giving this group space on this article, they will of course come to believe they have been legitimized by the press/peers? and everyone reading this article comes away thinking well geez, it looks like it is so easy to do this, maybe I can do it as well.
Temptation for those, whose bent is to take without paying, is always going to be hard to resist, if the manufacturers of these consoles would put out a completely hacker/cracker free box, then this discussion would not be taking place...and the consumer would be confident he/she is buying a product that is okay....
Geez Neg a Ford??? (Found on Road Dead)......
:D
Ford is better than a Pontiac.Quote:
Geez Neg a Ford??? (Found on Road Dead)......
P = poor
O = old
N= nigga
T = Thinks
I = It's
A = A
C = Cadilliac.
and you know he will put rims on it too. they always put rims on somthing thats a POS. jeez he will even put rims on a toaster if you let him.Quote:
Originally posted here by Computernerd22
Ford is better than a Pontiac.
P = poor
O = old
N= nigga
T = Thinks
I = It's
A = A
C = Cadilliac.
Ford=
Fix
Or
Repair
Daily
Whoever told you it wasn't a cadillac lied...Quote:
Originally posted here by Computernerd22
Ford is better than a Pontiac.
P = poor
O = old
N= nigga
T = Thinks
I = It's
A = A
C = Cadilliac.
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I just love this part.
Claimed? how many different distros of linux now run on xbox?Quote:
In addition, some groups claimed they could run Linux on the Xbox. Such hacks have yet to surface for the Xbox 360.
I like how they get the dumbest people to write these little fluff bits.
PSP has the same type of program available, but unless you want to use old firmware none of the hacks work.
I'm sure before too long though someone will get something to work.
What ever happened to consoles being consoles. They played games. Thats it!
I'll take a $75.00 "GAME Console" any day over a bloated $400.00 media center/game console/overheating paper weight.
Trick is finding a $75.00 game console.
Well there is if your talking about the oldies. Reg. Nintendo and Super. which i have both in great running condition. you know those old ones you can get for cheap unless its on ebay.
Are you kidding me? I loved those oldies. Give me Duck Hunt anyday. I've had basically all the gaming systems put out except of all those new game boy systems... I think Nintendo got a little carried away there. I still love whipping out the old things old and jumping around with mario or the ninja turtles. BTW I have a Ford Aspire and proud of it. (bought it with my own money instead of all these snooty kids having their parents buy them mitsubishi's and ****) lol.
The revolution will be (rumored) under $100 and run a good part of those oldies as well as some of the classic Sega library as well.
I do think it's cool to see what you can do to a system with mods and such, but yes, I must agree that not paying for games is stealing.
I have a modded xbox, I own games, I still buy games, I don't copy then.
Yes I could rent or borrows games and copy them to the drive, but I prefer to support the developers to create more games. I want companies like Bethesta Software to continue to create games like Elder Scrolls.
The only thing I get pissed over is dropping $50 on a game and discover it's the quality of a under $20 game. Which is why I rent a game and read reviews, then if satisfied (and not completed it) I buy it. :)
back to the topic of this post...of course you can crack a windows based gaming system...they built it on top of a customized version of windows...this system is a piece of junk and probably needs a lot of windows updates. MS only wanted to get to the market first so they could bask in the market share they so desperatly wanted. If Sony comes out with a well made and clean running version of the PS3 right off the bat then MS will regret their mistake of rushing into production. MS is so massive you would think they would have a lot of talent. They only seem to be concerned with their domination and not helping out the people. I hope Sony comes in and whoops some XBOX360 ass.
Oh and just as a side note did anyone hear about how MS is being sued for making faulty XBox 360 systems...what a joke MS has become...but they sure do know how to make money...good lord!
Last time I checked, Microsoft is always being sued...Quote:
Oh and just as a side note did anyone hear about how MS is being sued for making faulty XBox 360 systems...what a joke MS has become...
This lawsuit is just a couple of people trying to get some quick cash... I've yet to see any reputable source that has had an xbox crash on them.. Quit a few gaming websites have had xbox 360's running for days on end without a single crash.... I think it was xbox-scene that had a few informal reports that most people having problems had their systems in enclosed entertainment centers with poor ventilation..
As anybody with some common sense should know, this type of system will need good ventilation, as will the PS3.. If you stick your xbox360 into an enclosed area, with a cable box sitting on top of it, it is pretty likely that it could overheat...
I was talking to the guys at a local bestbuy and they said their floor model 360's have been running from early AM, until the store closes every day since release, without any crashes...
I think this guy will have a hard time proving that the 360 has a fundamental flaw with so few units crapping out..
Every system will have flaws as long as humans are involved ... I agree with mohaughn but like I once read : "If common sense was so common then why is it so uncommon ?" ...
Seriously though the old MS produces crap blah blah is getting kinda old ....
B.T.W. maybe reading the manual might help to avoid problems ... But who actually reads those ???
Playstation 2 anyone ??
Actually i purchased one when they were released here.Quote:
Originally posted here by mohaughn
This lawsuit is just a couple of people trying to get some quick cash... I've yet to see any reputable source that has had an xbox crash on them..
I had it sitting on the Coffee Table and it still fried itself. There was no electrical shortage, as it was plugged into a Safety Switch, like everything else electrical in the house..
Anyhow played it for 2hours in that position and the thing went dead.
I thought it was just overheated so i unplugged it from the wall and let it sit there for 3 hours, i then came back and plugged it back in and it still woudn't work.
So now i've just got an over expensive paper weight..
I ended up taking it into a shop and had them check it out. and the inside was fried, and bits of wire were melted etc.
One of the corners has a slight melt mark on it, but i think it adds character to the ugly design..
cheers
front2back
yea thats one of the other problems. shortage batteries, fries easy, buggy..real buggy, plus the way you have to pay more to make it better...yea thats why im just not buying one. MS is always getting screwed up and over and why well its self explanitory. Just look at there great accomplishments! :eek:
An interesting read a came upon while at work today. Was told about it by a customer, so i checked it out and thought i'd post it up here.
Quote:
Men Charged with Felonies for Xbox Modding
U.S. prosecutors have charged three men with copyright infringement for selling modified Xbox consoles that allow the systems to play pirated games.
Jason Jones, 34, Jonathan Bryant, 44, and Pei "Patrick" Cai, 32 are co-owners of ACME Game Store in Los Angeles, CA. The complaint alleges that Cai was modifying chips and hard drives so users could copy rented or borrowed games onto the console for future play. Then the three men were selling the consoles.
All three men are charged with one felony count of conspiracy to commit copyright infringement and to violate the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. A maximum penalty of five years in federal prison can be given.
During the investigation, undercover agents for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement paid $265 to have a modification chip, a hard drive, and seventy-seven pirated games installed on an Xbox.
Yea the day people were lined up waiting to buy them a few people said im buying 10,20 of these things on the radio. They asked why. "I'm a business man i can resell these" and blah blah. but good god make it abvious your going to screw them over. That also goes with stealing the source code then renting games. Man the future is going to be rough if they went crazy over this. remember Virtual Reality came out?
front2back- Those guys were idiots. They were putting in the mod chips and loading the mod chips with a BIOS that uses copyrighted code from the original xbox bios. If they would have just left one of the GPL xbox bios's on the chips and told the customers how to flash they chip they would not have been breaking any laws. It has always been the case that you have to flash the modchip yourself because if they have the "hacked" xbox bios it is illegal.
By reputable source I mean a gaming magazine, tech magazine, or major newspaper. Even though how reputable they are is arguable I've not seen a major news source report that they have had one go bad.. Are some of the devices failing, yes. Is the internet making this problem out to be much bigger than it really is.. Yes...Quote:
Actually i purchased one when they were released here. I had it sitting on the Coffee Table and it still fried itself. There was no electrical shortage, as it was plugged into a Safety Switch, like everything else electrical in the house..
And front2back- if you really had a device, why would you let a repair shop open it when that voids the MS warranty? I've never heard of MS telling somebody to take their device to a repair shop, they are sending people postage paid boxes, and then fixing the problem, or sending a new device. You have to destroy the stickers on the bottom to open the thing up, and it pretty clearly says that voids the warranty.
All this thread, (and all the others about this or that video game console being hacked), proves is that physical access = zero security....
Move on kids.... The manufacturers will realize this eventually......
I paid for the first Xbox months in advance so i was defo getting one. I was sitting playing Halo for about 2 hours and it crashed said the disk was faulty etc ( Brand new console ). So i was in debt for nose candy and sold it to a mate ( since it crashed a lot ) and bought a used PS2 the laser was fux0r3d on that but it was a simple realign of the laser it needed it works perfect now. Xbox done the same with my friend so he pawned it and is moving on. Now to the Xbox 360 i have been heseatant (SP?) to buy the new Xbox as i paid about £300 in october for the first Xbox and it was a huge dissapointment graphics great,game play great,big hdd great, crashes every few hours frustrating ( a specially if you havent saved or hit a save point ). So IMHO ill never buy an Xbox again PS3 cant wait for it im just curious whats behind the plastic on the new PS3. Everyone knows an Xbox is a mini PC ( wait for the hacks :) ) well next year is not far off I bet a pound to a penny there will be plenty of hacks remember its not all software a soldering iron and necissery components and it's pwned. People have a grudge against M$ they will do whatever it takes to ridicule the company i suspect a few versons of *nix to pop up for the 360 since the flaw was founded on an existing flaw ( correct me if im wrong ) the hacks will be rolling out shortly. In onther news my fiance's brother managed to get a 360 and no probs from it it runs fine as far as I have seen but the first xbox put me off buying another M$ console. Why buy a console if you have a PC running Win with a decent GFX card sound card etc. My advice dont spend cash on the 360 up-grade your rig ( prolly cheaper ) most games come out for the PC anyway and if not there's always something equal or better to play on a PC. Ill post if Martin gets any probs with his 360 but everything seems fine I always get hit with the 'dodgy' stuff ( no not stolen just faulty )
All in all the graphics are good and so is the game play but I wouldnt take the risk again because it would be my luck to get a faulty 360 so ill hold off till the PS3 is released before I buy another console
It's already started with the mods for the 360, just check sites like xbox-scene.org
A Source: http://xbox-scene.org/xbox360-tutorials.php?p=0|#0
The case is much more difficult to get to, being that everything is apparently in enclosures, as well as using laptop components, which make the modding more expensive. (Laptop HD)
Source: http://www.anandtech.com/systems/sho...spx?i=2610&p=2
But there will be "assembly kits" that will have the required tools to be able to properly disassemble the case. (instead of using metal shims - see above link)
All this is legal as long as people don't do like those in LA. You can mod the item, you can add components to the item, however you cannot add items that are in violation of copyright laws, like loading the console with 77 pirates games.
The issue about putting the BIOS on the Chip is actually legal! It's what is done with it afterwards is not legal. You can copy games to your hardrive, if you own the game. I do to ensure less usage on my discs to extend their surface life (and faster load times)
It's like owning a crowbar. You can use a crowbar as a tool, or you can use a crowbar to pry open parking meters. Does it make it illegal to own it? no. But you do have to be specific to it's purpose. You cannot expect to walk down a street at night with a crowbar in hand and not expect the police to stop and ask you questions. Same for a modded system. As long as your activitied are legal, it's all ok. Just don't go walking around town with 100 games on the HD when you own 12.
Now I have a question, since I haven't seen one physically, except in display cases. Does the XBox360 have a VGA port on the back? I've heard several people mention it, but I think it's gotta be bogus. 'Cause if it is there, it's asking to be modded for *nix
No, it is not. Evox M7, M8, or any similiar BIOS that uses the original XBOX BIOS is illegal. There is a copyright on that code, and it cannot be modified and redistributed. DMCA and other software copyright law makes that illegal.Quote:
The issue about putting the BIOS on the Chip is actually legal!
The only legal XBOX hacked BIOS is those covered under GPL that were completely re-written such as the cromwell BIOS. You will find that almost all XBOX mod chips being shipped from legitimate sources have either the Cromwell bios, or a modified version of the cromwell bios.
I would consider this to be a complete list of legal XBOX bios software- http://www.xbox-scene.com/software/s...page=legalbios