Is IP Tracing legal?
Is there a way to find out who has traced my IP?
I have a continual hacker who says he keeps tracing my IP address.
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Is IP Tracing legal?
Is there a way to find out who has traced my IP?
I have a continual hacker who says he keeps tracing my IP address.
Tracing you?How?How does he say he's 'tracing' you?And why?As to the legality,I doubt it's illegal,if all he's doing is noting what your IP is all the time..even if it was,I doubt you could do much except complain to the guy's ISP(if he's got a trojan or whatnot installed) though I wouldn't bet my life's savings on whether they'd take action.A little more details please.
Cheers
I am in a bad way. I am very low income and disabled and am so desperate for a good meal that I have resorted to cyberbegging.
http://www.savemesites.com/pages/freepage.php?site=3527
I am chronically unemployable - even to myself. And, my pc and internet are donated.
While cyberbegging, a guy says he's traced my IP address to some place in some other country - he thinks I am scamming - I am not - I got a delivery from the food bank today, and will again on christmas by the local fire department.
And, again - he writes, either to me, or, places an ad online - that he has traced my IP address to a different address (I used a diff email)...Essentailly, he is a scrooge, out to bash the downtrodden.
And, in the process, is tracing my IP address...
hmm....
not easy to answer, but if you changed you email and he knows about it.
than it can be some one from you "friends" or someone who knows you, who want just to play a little. or dumb spammer...
he/she sending mail to you, you opening that mail and your new IP sends away to sender.
or you got infected and some one watching you....
it makes brain out..., block that sender and check mail as spam
Mark:
No doubt you are in dire straights; however, begging on a security site is conducive of a scam. As this board is used to many different forms of scams and pishing attempts - yours does not look any different.
Your link does not reflect that of one who cannot get a job. One of the best programmers I ever met is wheel chair bound and only has the use of three fingers. One on the right and two one on the left.
Who set up your web site?
AND, if this "Hacker" is tracing to the wrong address, what's your problem?
Looks like you have a future in sales!Quote:
Then, You'll LOVE MY (Patented) Inventions!
These are ATTRACTIVE PRODUCTS That YOU NEED To SEE!
These are Multi-Million Dollar Inventions;
Which, Have Only ONE competitor!,
/end edit
I am sure my web page does not look any different from those who scam, and to those who just wish to see a scammer.
I appreciate that your wheelchair bound friend is able to work.
Fortunately, he does not have my disabilities.
Mark
Thank you for your responses - I will check my IP chasers' emails as spam, and, look into legal action if he persists.
P.S. None of my friends are that into the internet that they'd know a thing about IP addresses.
This guy is just someone trying to prove me to be a scammer and he cannot, and it pisses him off that I am telling the truth...he just needs to be a scrooge this season to someone...this year, it's me..
Ok... this is all pretty easy....
1. If you are a scammer, (I haven't even bothered to visit your site.... I don't do beggars... period), then quit bitching..... You're a loser that is failing to convince an individual and you are whining about it...... Your problem.
2. If you aren't a scammer you have some moron who doesn't understand the internet claiming that you are a scammer. But, from what you have said, the only thing he is doing is bitching at you.... Thus he isn't affecting your "business", (no-one is seeing or paying attention to his "ad online" - how many online ads do you pay attention to?).... So what are you worrying about?
Not that I have 'business' other than a few kind donors of various smaller amounts, but, this guy IS telling other people, in an open forum - craigslist - lies about me - complete lies...
He doesn't even care about proof...
neither do we ..........Quote:
He doesn't even care about proof...
take the advice given
ignore and move on
this IS the internet
and it's BIG
add his address to your junk file, and it will make sure you never see him again ......
as for tracing IP's
it's not rocket science, and it's not particularly revealing to the vast majority on that there net.
live and let live
one or both of you are being economical with the truth
which, nowadays is a way of life to many
I repeat :
move on ..........
As a proportion of the entire internet:-
How many people are your donors?
How many people is he preventing from being a donor?
Come now, be honest with yourself. You are pissed that some guy is telling lies about you. But, in the big picture it seems like you have bigger problems than wasting valuable energy on some uneducated loser on a crusade..... Go to Crains and ask him to give your _physical_ address. Explain that ISP's who's internet registration is in Herndon, Virginia, (like any AOL user would be Whois'ed at), doesn't mean that they live in Herndon. Then, politely ask him to provide, for the edification of the users of Crain's, your home address or shut the **** up and quit demonstrating what a lame idiot he is by not understanding a damned thing he is talking about.
Then ask him to come here and explain why you are a scammer..... What the hell, it's Christmas and we all need a good laugh.... :D
As far as being economical with the truth - I get food from the food banks...that's economical.
I have taken your advice and junk malied'm...and, staying off the sites where he is...
And, you are right - I am pissed that some guy is spreading lies about me - and, you are right again - I do have bigger issues and problems than to waste time on that guy....
Happy Holidays, Kind Citizens!!
Mark
Saw your site...all I can recommend is "grab a squeegee and park your butt at any busy intersection and voila, you will have enough money to feed yourself, if you were serious about yourself, I think you would have too much pride to be doing this sort of thing, espescially if you are 40 as you say....and like dinowuff, I too know some people who are truly disadvantaged, but would never stoop to this level, the very thing they want is to be treated as equals and to do this they will try their hardest to be employable.
You sound educated...but that just apparently means you can spell better then those people from Nigeria.....
Hey you're not that "Spec" guy I hear about are you........ :rolleyes:
Stop Begging and seek professional help.There are all sorts of agencies out there that will assist you and or provide you with some means of a living.
... And happy holidays to you and I hope your situation improves.....
Don't sweat the small stuff.... and ignore the losers and lamers..... They _think_ they are good and clever..... but they stick out for what they are like a dogs balls.....
Again, Happy holidays and I wish you well...... I'll drink a couple for you.... ;)
[EDIT]
Err.... It isn't necessarily that easy. I work around a couple of hundred disabled people every day..... Go out and get a job isn't realistic...... trust me.... ;)Quote:
grab a squeegee and park your butt at any busy intersection and voila
[/EDIT]
Don't feed the trolls !!!!
Not only doesn't this belong here ( where are the MODS), but what is a person ( who claims to be indigent, downtrodden, disabled, and begging for food and handouts ) doing with their own Internet connection?
They claim ( for the semi-ignorant's benefit and to bolster legitimacy ) that they were given the PC that they are using.
So how can they afford the ISP?
And why, when they give an address of Pennsauken, New Jersey ( BTW, the ZIP Code comes back to a nearby community of Merchantville, NJ ) is their time zone in GMT ( UK maybe ? ) and using a begging service from the US ?
Savemesites.com
easyonlinesolutions.com
detroitonline.com
etc.
If they are that smart to be able to use a PC and either mask their time zone or actual location, I would guess they would be smart enough, no matter what their disability, to get a job!
I have helped pull more people out of a slump then you can imagine, it is part of my job, but this one stinks!
FUD ?
No, Fraud !
Mees thinks this one is for the Feds on both sides of the pond!
Okay, so add that last guy to the list of people that don't get it...
My pc and internet access are donated. OKAY?? Or, is that too easy of an answer??
You're just looking to for me to be a scammer.
Sorry to disappoint you, but, I am not.
And, you do not understand disabilitis, either - ir, you wouldn't have made such a simplistic statement as 'get a job'....
And, as far as my IP being somewhere ese..no idea why...maybe someone with a clue as to how IP addresses work can fill you in. ME? I'm in Pennsauken, N.J.- if you want me to prove it, ask me for...my phone number...I have a home wired lifeline phone plan (is it ok to have that, too?)--so, I can't fake my phone number - if you call it, I will answer...
Not enough proof??
Fine, meet me and you can see my medicare card and PAAD card and social security card and you can be here on christmas day around 11am - 12 noon - when the local fire company drops off my christmas dinner....or, like yesterday, when the food bank delivered me some food...
Not enough proof...too bad..you are just looking for a way to allow your heart to be cold.
The point that seems to be missed here, is that everybody has a story. Your's may not be any better or worse than the next guy. Granted he may not be physcially disabled, maybe it's mental problems, maybe he just lost his wife he has been married to for 20 years, maybe their children have contracted cancer, maybe he is fighting demons within brought on by drugs or alcohol, maybe he lives in an oppressed country and he has no freedoms. Regardless of who you talk to, I would bet everyone has a hardship. The huge difference? How we respond to the trials placed before us.
cheers
edit: My ISP and location indicated by my IP is over 200 miles from where I live.
I was unfortunately being "Glib", and you are right it is unrealistic for those that are legitimately disabled.Quote:
Err.... It isn't necessarily that easy. I work around a couple of hundred disabled people every day..... Go out and get a job isn't realistic...... trust me....
I just didn't appreciate the timing of this post (4 days before Christmas), I am a cynic when it comes to this sort of thing as well as skeptic.
Those that you work around, do they appear to you as having lost all sense of pride, are they at that point where they will solicit sympathy, to ensure they recieve handouts, are they so down that they have no will or reason, if they could work, would they try...?
This person obviously has issues, wether they are legit or not, we will never know (I'm not driving to NJ to find out), but for the most part, I would hazard a guess and say that a lot of it is treatable?, also their are organisations, agencies out there that will assist this person, if he is able to communicate via the web, then is a job working from home out of the question?
Call me what you want, but I will not pander to those who would try to play upon my good graces to further their enterprise......
Okay, how I responded to the trials placed before me...
Hmmm, I was working, making 50 grand 7 years ago, became disabled, lost my job, house, truck, drums and everything...became homeless...fought my way back and now have an apartment...that's how I respond to the trials...
What you do not understand - is that you do not ask a blind man to read the chart on the wall.
My pint is - I have tried and tried for 7 years and my situation gets worse, not better.
If you think I am eating from the food banks because I am not trying hard enough, you are sadly mistaken.
My reasons for cybegging (realizing we are way off topic and all I wanted was some advice for IP tracing - not to defend myself and be ridiculed by some, sent warm thoughts by others)..My reason s for cyberbegging is that I have no options left. I cannot support myself.
Not even by stuffing envelopes. I am chronically unemployable, even to myself.
Obviously, I do not understand every other persons abilities or disabilities or their trials and tribulations. Nor, do I expect you to understand mine. Suffice it to say, I am a man and want to earn my own keep and feel that pride that I once had...there is no pride in begging...but, there is no fun in starving for food and nourishment (food banks do not provide as much nourishment or 'food' as people think--it's mostly junk food-cookies, pringles, etc.).
As a man whom is not capable of supporting himself, I am doing what I have been forced to do to survive. And, even with all the cyberbegging, it hasn't made a dent in my daily life, other than a few kind people. I still have a lack of food, I still cannot afford to wash my clothes, put gas in my 17 year old van that I need to get my medicines and 'food'. No joyride at all.
And yet, I am very grateful God has granted me a life. I am grateful that I get to wake up and respond to good people and good people who do not understand...it is a blessing...
Happy Holidays, Kind Citizens!!
beggards can't be choosers... Visit a Catholic church...they'll help you out with food. I think you're full of **** tho....Quote:
(food banks do not provide as much nourishment or 'food' as people think--it's mostly junk food-cookies, pringles, etc.).
I am visiting a Catholic Church - that's where the food bank is.
And, that's ok - you can think I'm full of ****, because I still think you are looking for a reason NOT to help.
I thought this was all about IP tracing.....
My ISP is hundreds of miles away from where I am located..
If you post a website....be prepared to deal with jerks...they are everywhere.
As for your disabilities.......I am sorry to hear about your dilema...
But there are many people in this world...much more unfortunate then you....your are literate, have a roof over your head...AND have access to a computer...AND the internet...WITH a website.....
to bad you cant eat that ;) \
MLF
Yes, I do have it better than ALOT of people...I have it better than the homeless - I know because I was one of them....I am grateful and want to be able to support myself and therefore, help others.
Happy Holidays!
Hi,
First off lets get past the bit about are you legit or not, really if you are then you have my sympathy, if not then whatever, i will probably never meet you so i see no point in having a go at you as what i say wont change anything you say or do here or anywhere else.
As for your ORIGIONAL post the questions in it are very simple and have quite simple answers that a little searching on Google would answer, so i have no problem sharing my knowledge on those questions.
To everyone else, if i have given out any eroneous info below please feel free to correct me but apart from that the questions are answered and this thread appears to be going nowhere fast so why not just let it die? Let the guy be, as nothing we say here will change his behaviour if he is a fraud, then there is nothing we can do about it, (apart from banning him from this site) and i see no point in this community wasting more time on him (again assuming he is a fraud). If he is a fraud or a scriptkiddie or someone trying to learn to hack etc then the questions he asked are extremely simple ones and the answers will not help with ANY illegal activity. If he asks more questions that could have potentially illegal motives then he will get the same response as others that come here asking those questions.
My honest opinion is that he has asked these simplistic questions to get a response to which he can then place his links to his site asking for donations, but on the off chance he actually wants the answer to the questions, here they are:
Is IP Tracing Legal?
Yes. Your IP address is given out along with most actions you make on the internet as it is the only way that you can get a reponse. In a way it is YOUR address so things can be sent back (i believe someone may have already said this). As this is always given out it is also legal and relatively easy to do certain searches on it, like a location lookup or a WHOIS lookup. Now the problem with these searches is that they do not always provide results, if they do the results are not always reliable and if they are accurate they are not always easy to interpret.
For example:
To find out your IP go here: http://www.whatismyip.com/
Your IP will appear at the top in the format of four numbers seperated by fullstops
If i then take my IP for example and go to a WHOIS search it comes up with a ton of info, most of which i do not understand and looks like a lot of technical info, but definetly no personal data.
Notably it says my location is AMSTERDAM when actually i am in England just outside london.
Is there a way to find out who has traced my IP?
The only way that i know of is to obtain there IP from an e-mail they sent you (i wont tell you how as i am suspect of the legitamacy, however searching on google would be a good start). Additionally look at the persons e-mail address, who provides the email to him? eg hotmail. If it was hotmail the first thing i would do is search MSN member lists, they might have been stupid enough to put up a profile. Try just putting the e-mail address into Google, you might be surprised as to what comes up. Just search around is your best option.
If you really are legitimately disabled and this person is really nastyy etc then contact the police. They might consider it harrassment, some form of cyber stalking etc and will know other tracking techniques.
If you are interested in trying to hide your IP online then have a look at this thread:
http://www.antionline.com/showthread...t=hide+address
Merry Christmas
Matt
Okay...just so nobody think I am a cold hearted SOB here, my problem with this type of solicitation is this:Quote:
Originally posted here by mark1365
I am visiting a Catholic Church - that's where the food bank is.
And, that's ok - you can think I'm full of ****, because I still think you are looking for a reason NOT to help.
First though, I like probably everyone else here, do contribute to worthy causes, wether it's the local YMCA, Sally Ann, or Red Cross or any other of the registered charities that are there to provide for those that are needy, disabled, disadvantaged, or mentally challenged.
The part that ticks me off, is that some senior, is going to stumble on to your site, and because most seniors 65 Plus were brought up during the hard times do take pity on those less fortunate, will try to donate, this may mean that this Months groceries will have to cut back or that medicine they need will wait. Most seniors unless wealthy are on fixed incomes, and can ill afford to help those who feel they are less fortunate...
You read all the time of seniors being scammed online or through their emails, and it's not stupidity that they end up being scammed but it's the kindness in their hearts that does it, I don't know how many times I wanted to hurl the TV out the window when I caught Jimmy Swaggert or Jim Baker or others requesting donations, and the very people that were donating were the sick, frail and elderly and then when it comes time to help those people out these televangelists would disappear.....
I am not saying you are a scammer, but if you could.... how about putting a disclaimer on that site that reads:
"If you are a Senior living on a fixed income, please do not donate, instead send me your well wishes and prayers"
It's perfectly legal to trace IP addresses. Beyond that, activities like port scanning, you get into gray areas.
First, learn how to read email headers. Google "email headers" and "tutorials" and you'll have something to work with.
Second, you might also see if you can download the log files from your website.
Third, download a program called Sam Spade so you can do whois lookups. Also try www.dnsstuff.com for the same.
There's only so much you're going to find out about this person tracing their IP. With an IP address, you can trace this person to their ISP and a general geographical location. Unless you're a law enforcement official or a lawyer with a court order, you're not likely to get any info on this person from his or her ISP.
HTH, have a good Xmas. As for your situation, been there done that. Good luck getting out of the hole.
Dalek,
I agree totally 100% with you.
The problem with this type of thread is that if you say he is a fraud you look and sound cold hearted etc, if you believe him you look and sound gullible, like a chump. So unfortunately bearing in mind the annonymity (spealt wrong i know) of the net and the fact that everyone here will probably never come across this guy and there is no way we can help people like seniors getting sucked in (assuming he is a fraud) lets just let it go.
Oh by the way your disclaimer suggestion is excellent, as if he is legit then surely he wouldn't want others to suffer for his gain and would be very happy to put such a disclaimer up and if he is a fraud then he wont care and we have not lost anything.
Matt
IP tracing is legal. Slander is very common on the internet. The best suggestion I heard so far was to call the police and say that you are being harassed online. They'll have a proper suggestion for you.
Okay, I thought this question might relate with this topic... What can you do with an IP address? Besides finding out where their ISP is? I found out my school's eathernet (don't know if I spelled it right) connection and we have a student server for our class. Any relation with IP address on how I could connect to it from my home computer? It would make transferring my homework to and fro a lot easier.
Thanks, :D
GS