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OK anyone here knows I don't have a Mac and my first bout with OS X was... Rocky to say the least. However today, I saw something.... I'm drooling. It doesn't have an Nvidia card, and I like it anyway:
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
It's 1 inch, and the cheap model has a 128 MB Video card...
OK anyone here knows I don't have a Mac and my first bout with OS X was... Rocky to say the least. However today, I saw something.... I'm drooling. It doesn't have an Nvidia card, and I like it anyway:
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
It's 1 inch, and the cheap model has a 128 MB Video card...
Am I just blind or does the site not mention the price??
I also like this little inventive feature:
I can't tell you how many times one of my dogs or someone else kicks the cord and drags my laptop off the table... Especially my dogs... they panic and just take off, my laptop goes for a ride, and then I strain my vocal cords shouting at them... Good thing I have a toshiba laptop :), they make very solid machines.Quote:
Power Up With MagSafe
The new power adapter with MagSafe connector is designed to magnetically guide your cord into place and disconnect smoothly if someone (else) trips over it.
Am I just blind or does the site not mention the price??
I also like this little inventive feature:
I can't tell you how many times one of my dogs or someone else kicks the cord and drags my laptop off the table... Especially my dogs... they panic and just take off, my laptop goes for a ride, and then I strain my vocal cords shouting at them... Good thing I have a toshiba laptop :), they make very solid machines.Quote:
Power Up With MagSafe
The new power adapter with MagSafe connector is designed to magnetically guide your cord into place and disconnect smoothly if someone (else) trips over it.
The price is there. It's when you go to order one they show you that.
The price is there. It's when you go to order one they show you that.
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MacBook Pro starts at just $1999.
Hhhmmm Magnets and drives....I like the fact it rips out easily, but is that really a good thing, after time, it may not stay in....have to say it does look pretty slim........
Oh and the $1999.00 is the cheap model.... :p And for an extra $500.00 you get 1GB of Ram and a 256MB video card, be worth the extra..... ;)
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MacBook Pro starts at just $1999.
Hhhmmm Magnets and drives....I like the fact it rips out easily, but is that really a good thing, after time, it may not stay in....have to say it does look pretty slim........
Oh and the $1999.00 is the cheap model.... :p And for an extra $500.00 you get 1GB of Ram and a 256MB video card, be worth the extra..... ;)
The magnet wouldn't be powerful enough to affect any drives...Quote:
Hhhmmm Magnets and drives....
That could be true, but I'm sure the laptop would be obsolete by the time that happens...Quote:
after time, it may not stay in....
And a slightly faster CPU :DQuote:
And for an extra $500.00 you get 1GB of Ram and a 256MB video card, be worth the extra.....
The magnet wouldn't be powerful enough to affect any drives...Quote:
Hhhmmm Magnets and drives....
That could be true, but I'm sure the laptop would be obsolete by the time that happens...Quote:
after time, it may not stay in....
And a slightly faster CPU :DQuote:
And for an extra $500.00 you get 1GB of Ram and a 256MB video card, be worth the extra.....
Hey Hey,
I think you got this thread backwards.... Theren's no such thing as a bad mac..
We've got a bunch at work... from First Gen G4s, up to Dual 2.2 G5s... OS X is great... I've got a 300Mhz Clamshell iBook and a 350Mhz iMac... The iBook is running Ubuntu and the iMac is running Classic (OS 9.2.1)... Both work beautifully
The New Quad G5s (Dual Dual Core Procs (That's a wonderful statement))... they're great...
The MacBook Pro (is awesome) and the new iMac Intel-based is out performing the old G5s.. They're all Dual Core... it's great..
Mac is making a huge come back... and with more and more *nix distributions becoming available for it.. I think it's the way that you could see a lot of geeks going in the future. They already control the graphics, video, audio markets... I know some friends who are doing a lot of gaming on Macs... They've got the processing power to kick some serious ass...
As for the magnetic power cord... they're great... Our deepfryer has one.. it can really save your ass..
Peace,
HT
Hey Hey,
I think you got this thread backwards.... Theren's no such thing as a bad mac..
We've got a bunch at work... from First Gen G4s, up to Dual 2.2 G5s... OS X is great... I've got a 300Mhz Clamshell iBook and a 350Mhz iMac... The iBook is running Ubuntu and the iMac is running Classic (OS 9.2.1)... Both work beautifully
The New Quad G5s (Dual Dual Core Procs (That's a wonderful statement))... they're great...
The MacBook Pro (is awesome) and the new iMac Intel-based is out performing the old G5s.. They're all Dual Core... it's great..
Mac is making a huge come back... and with more and more *nix distributions becoming available for it.. I think it's the way that you could see a lot of geeks going in the future. They already control the graphics, video, audio markets... I know some friends who are doing a lot of gaming on Macs... They've got the processing power to kick some serious ass...
As for the magnetic power cord... they're great... Our deepfryer has one.. it can really save your ass..
Peace,
HT
Yeah. Yeah. Macs. Bill was like damn the only company keeping me from being a monopoly is going under I better bail their <censored> out.
I dunno I can't afford to breath on one of those pricey <censored>. So I'll just stick with what I got. But I really don't see how they can treat them like they are worth their wheight in gold.
Yeah. Yeah. Macs. Bill was like damn the only company keeping me from being a monopoly is going under I better bail their <censored> out.
I dunno I can't afford to breath on one of those pricey <censored>. So I'll just stick with what I got. But I really don't see how they can treat them like they are worth their wheight in gold.
i always wondered how it seems macs run on less CPU and ram than a windows machine... but are more expensive
on that same note... i wonder how they run on less CPU and ram at all!!.... i know XP is a resource hog... if resources = carbohydrates, Dr. Atkins would sue... but is mac that much better with resour ce allocation?
seems like windows you can never have enough ram, and even though you have a 3gig processor programs can still take forever to load
got a job now... plan on buying a powerbook asap
i always wondered how it seems macs run on less CPU and ram than a windows machine... but are more expensive
on that same note... i wonder how they run on less CPU and ram at all!!.... i know XP is a resource hog... if resources = carbohydrates, Dr. Atkins would sue... but is mac that much better with resour ce allocation?
seems like windows you can never have enough ram, and even though you have a 3gig processor programs can still take forever to load
got a job now... plan on buying a powerbook asap
That's what defrag, error-checking, and disk cleanup is for :).Quote:
seems like windows you can never have enough ram, and even though you have a 3gig processor programs can still take forever to load
That's what defrag, error-checking, and disk cleanup is for :).Quote:
seems like windows you can never have enough ram, and even though you have a 3gig processor programs can still take forever to load
Aaahhh, Mac OSX ... Its the damn best OS I've ever worked with.
I have a Mac Mini @ home and I love it. Its easy, its stable, its fast and you can control it.
I believe Apple would do sever damage to the Microsoft monopoly if they would sell the OS seperately, although then they would need to allow thirdparty drivers and **** ...
Well its a whole seperate discussion ...
And gore, yes thats indeed a laptop to drool about ;)
Cheers
Aaahhh, Mac OSX ... Its the damn best OS I've ever worked with.
I have a Mac Mini @ home and I love it. Its easy, its stable, its fast and you can control it.
I believe Apple would do sever damage to the Microsoft monopoly if they would sell the OS seperately, although then they would need to allow thirdparty drivers and **** ...
Well its a whole seperate discussion ...
And gore, yes thats indeed a laptop to drool about ;)
Cheers
AppleMac!
First computer my third wife stole from me :D
75Ghz and a 15" screen.........................OS 7.something?
I have one in the loft...........It is marked "My Pr0n" but is a 90/133 booting OS 7 and Win 95...........part of my "collection" a cool machine? Yes, it has two processors.......
:D
AppleMac!
First computer my third wife stole from me :D
75Ghz and a 15" screen.........................OS 7.something?
I have one in the loft...........It is marked "My Pr0n" but is a 90/133 booting OS 7 and Win 95...........part of my "collection" a cool machine? Yes, it has two processors.......
:D
Hey Hey,Quote:
Originally posted here by hexadecimal
i always wondered how it seems macs run on less CPU and ram than a windows machine... but are more expensive
on that same note... i wonder how they run on less CPU and ram at all!!.... i know XP is a resource hog... if resources = carbohydrates, Dr. Atkins would sue... but is mac that much better with resour ce allocation?
seems like windows you can never have enough ram, and even though you have a 3gig processor programs can still take forever to load
got a job now... plan on buying a powerbook asap
You'll seldom find a Mac that runs with less RAM than a PC... They start at 256 same as low-end PCs.. they also aren't that much more expensive... not if you sit down and think about it... You can buy a mac-mini for the same price you could get an eMachine at Best Buy or Futureshop (at least here in Canada anyways)... You also have to take in account what you're getting.... You know you're getting high quality hardware with a Mac... there are no manufacturers of low-end/cheap Mac hardware like there is for the PC...
As for the processors.... well we'll have to wait and see with the new Intel Dual Cores that they're running but with the PowerPC they're a different architecture with different instruction sets.... I remember I used to have a prof that would say a RISC Processor on certaint asks would run 5 times faster than a CISC processor (CISC being your standard Pentium or Athlon)...
Then look at XP... It's not just the OS that's the hog... it's also sloppy programming... I closed a pdf about 20 minutes ago.. but Acrobat Reader is still open and using 31MB of RAM... I sent my last email about 25 minutes ago but WinWord.exe is still open using 26MB... Outlook is using 54MB... etc, etc, etc.... However the OS is still a hog itself...
OS 9 was similar to 3.1 really when you think about it.. so even though it was modern it used almost no resources... OS X is BSD based... it has a lot of BSDs memory and resource management... On top of that with OS X It'll run Disk Optimizer after many installs... this is basically a quick defrag to see if everything is still defragmented... Imagine your performance in crease if XP had a quick lil defrag to run after every install or every couple installs...
As for cost.. another thing to factor in is the case and design internally.. They're so clean and easy to get into for things like upgrades and part replacements.... Also the cases.. I have friends that are doing PC to Mac tower swaps because macs look nice... they mouse, keyboard, monitor, tower... it all looks nice... Buying a case that nice for a PC is going to cost you a little bit of money (especially if you're getting it with the New PC and now your own after market case mod)... Also most Macs these days (desktops) are coming with with wireless built in (most PCs don't).... they've all got firewire (a lot of PCs don't)...
Macs really aren't that costly when you factor in all the little things and look at the big picture.... they're just better...
Peace,
HT
Hey Hey,Quote:
Originally posted here by hexadecimal
i always wondered how it seems macs run on less CPU and ram than a windows machine... but are more expensive
on that same note... i wonder how they run on less CPU and ram at all!!.... i know XP is a resource hog... if resources = carbohydrates, Dr. Atkins would sue... but is mac that much better with resour ce allocation?
seems like windows you can never have enough ram, and even though you have a 3gig processor programs can still take forever to load
got a job now... plan on buying a powerbook asap
You'll seldom find a Mac that runs with less RAM than a PC... They start at 256 same as low-end PCs.. they also aren't that much more expensive... not if you sit down and think about it... You can buy a mac-mini for the same price you could get an eMachine at Best Buy or Futureshop (at least here in Canada anyways)... You also have to take in account what you're getting.... You know you're getting high quality hardware with a Mac... there are no manufacturers of low-end/cheap Mac hardware like there is for the PC...
As for the processors.... well we'll have to wait and see with the new Intel Dual Cores that they're running but with the PowerPC they're a different architecture with different instruction sets.... I remember I used to have a prof that would say a RISC Processor on certaint asks would run 5 times faster than a CISC processor (CISC being your standard Pentium or Athlon)...
Then look at XP... It's not just the OS that's the hog... it's also sloppy programming... I closed a pdf about 20 minutes ago.. but Acrobat Reader is still open and using 31MB of RAM... I sent my last email about 25 minutes ago but WinWord.exe is still open using 26MB... Outlook is using 54MB... etc, etc, etc.... However the OS is still a hog itself...
OS 9 was similar to 3.1 really when you think about it.. so even though it was modern it used almost no resources... OS X is BSD based... it has a lot of BSDs memory and resource management... On top of that with OS X It'll run Disk Optimizer after many installs... this is basically a quick defrag to see if everything is still defragmented... Imagine your performance in crease if XP had a quick lil defrag to run after every install or every couple installs...
As for cost.. another thing to factor in is the case and design internally.. They're so clean and easy to get into for things like upgrades and part replacements.... Also the cases.. I have friends that are doing PC to Mac tower swaps because macs look nice... they mouse, keyboard, monitor, tower... it all looks nice... Buying a case that nice for a PC is going to cost you a little bit of money (especially if you're getting it with the New PC and now your own after market case mod)... Also most Macs these days (desktops) are coming with with wireless built in (most PCs don't).... they've all got firewire (a lot of PCs don't)...
Macs really aren't that costly when you factor in all the little things and look at the big picture.... they're just better...
Peace,
HT
Hmm that Macbook pro goes from $1999 to $2500 when it crosses the channel. Thats a big shipping charge.
I did look at the Mac mini when they came out but Apple usually just changes the $ to £ when they sell over here. Makes them very expensive.
For the price of a basic Mac mini (with a keyboard but no monitor) over here I can buy a Dell with a 2.8GHz P4, 17" tft, double the ram and double the disk space. I think unless an Apple is really what you are after not just a computer most people would take the Dell.
Hmm that Macbook pro goes from $1999 to $2500 when it crosses the channel. Thats a big shipping charge.
I did look at the Mac mini when they came out but Apple usually just changes the $ to £ when they sell over here. Makes them very expensive.
For the price of a basic Mac mini (with a keyboard but no monitor) over here I can buy a Dell with a 2.8GHz P4, 17" tft, double the ram and double the disk space. I think unless an Apple is really what you are after not just a computer most people would take the Dell.
Ok.. but now do the comparison... The Mac Mini will perform as well as the 2.8Ghz in the dell... The hardawre components in the Mac are going to be of a higher caliber... and it's not a dell :)Quote:
Originally posted here by Aspman
Hmm that Macbook pro goes from $1999 to $2500 when it crosses the channel. Thats a big shipping charge.
I did look at the Mac mini when they came out but Apple usually just changes the $ to £ when they sell over here. Makes them very expensive.
For the price of a basic Mac mini (with a keyboard but no monitor) over here I can buy a Dell with a 2.8GHz P4, 17" tft, double the ram and double the disk space. I think unless an Apple is really what you are after not just a computer most people would take the Dell.
I was anti Mac for the longest time... The Apple ][ in elementary school was about as Mac as I went... I used them on and off over the years.... Then I saw a movie that a guy on my high school Robotics team did with his powerbook (this was basically when OS X first came out).... I was impressed by what it let pure amateurs do... It was incredible..
Now after working around them... I've never had so few headaches from such overworked machines... the Macs just take it and keep going... You can't just compare the RAM and Process because they're different architectures (sp?).... With a Mac you know you are always getting quality software..... with a PC that's most definately not the case... and Apple is great with warranty stuff..
Let's take this for example... I've got that 300Mhz 64MB of RAM Clamshell ibook that I mentioned before.... I loaded ubuntu onto it... I had gnome running with about 8 applets in the two panels... aMSN was running, OpenOffice was loaded, Firefix was loaded, a terminal window was open, The First console was logged in, the postfix server was still running, and I was playing robots... I still didn't experience any lag or slow down... I downloaded 150MB of updates in 3 minutes... installed them in maybe another 3...
Macs run incredibly well.... you show me a PC laptop that was released in 1999 that will still run that well without any lag time...
Peace,
HT
Ok.. but now do the comparison... The Mac Mini will perform as well as the 2.8Ghz in the dell... The hardawre components in the Mac are going to be of a higher caliber... and it's not a dell :)Quote:
Originally posted here by Aspman
Hmm that Macbook pro goes from $1999 to $2500 when it crosses the channel. Thats a big shipping charge.
I did look at the Mac mini when they came out but Apple usually just changes the $ to £ when they sell over here. Makes them very expensive.
For the price of a basic Mac mini (with a keyboard but no monitor) over here I can buy a Dell with a 2.8GHz P4, 17" tft, double the ram and double the disk space. I think unless an Apple is really what you are after not just a computer most people would take the Dell.
I was anti Mac for the longest time... The Apple ][ in elementary school was about as Mac as I went... I used them on and off over the years.... Then I saw a movie that a guy on my high school Robotics team did with his powerbook (this was basically when OS X first came out).... I was impressed by what it let pure amateurs do... It was incredible..
Now after working around them... I've never had so few headaches from such overworked machines... the Macs just take it and keep going... You can't just compare the RAM and Process because they're different architectures (sp?).... With a Mac you know you are always getting quality software..... with a PC that's most definately not the case... and Apple is great with warranty stuff..
Let's take this for example... I've got that 300Mhz 64MB of RAM Clamshell ibook that I mentioned before.... I loaded ubuntu onto it... I had gnome running with about 8 applets in the two panels... aMSN was running, OpenOffice was loaded, Firefix was loaded, a terminal window was open, The First console was logged in, the postfix server was still running, and I was playing robots... I still didn't experience any lag or slow down... I downloaded 150MB of updates in 3 minutes... installed them in maybe another 3...
Macs run incredibly well.... you show me a PC laptop that was released in 1999 that will still run that well without any lag time...
Peace,
HT
I'm guessing that's why Mac's made such a big comeback in the business sector...Quote:
hen I saw a movie that a guy on my high school Robotics team did with his powerbook (this was basically when OS X first came out).... I was impressed by what it let pure amateurs do... It was incredible..
That's incredible! I have an old PC... 400mhz p2, 64mb ram with ubuntu. Ubuntu runs very sluggish, I'm not even thinking about multitasking, it would surely blow the computer up :p...Quote:
I've got that 300Mhz 64MB of RAM Clamshell ibook that I mentioned before.... I loaded ubuntu onto it... I had gnome running with about 8 applets in the two panels... aMSN was running, OpenOffice was loaded, Firefix was loaded, a terminal window was open, The First console was logged in, the postfix server was still running, and I was playing robots... I still didn't experience any lag or slow down... I downloaded 150MB of updates in 3 minutes... installed them in maybe another 3...
I'm guessing that's why Mac's made such a big comeback in the business sector...Quote:
hen I saw a movie that a guy on my high school Robotics team did with his powerbook (this was basically when OS X first came out).... I was impressed by what it let pure amateurs do... It was incredible..
That's incredible! I have an old PC... 400mhz p2, 64mb ram with ubuntu. Ubuntu runs very sluggish, I'm not even thinking about multitasking, it would surely blow the computer up :p...Quote:
I've got that 300Mhz 64MB of RAM Clamshell ibook that I mentioned before.... I loaded ubuntu onto it... I had gnome running with about 8 applets in the two panels... aMSN was running, OpenOffice was loaded, Firefix was loaded, a terminal window was open, The First console was logged in, the postfix server was still running, and I was playing robots... I still didn't experience any lag or slow down... I downloaded 150MB of updates in 3 minutes... installed them in maybe another 3...