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Actually, the whole story is very interesting. The Dalai Lama contributedQuote:
...To protest the talk, some scientists set up an online petition, which was immediately hacked by the pro-Dalai Lama faction.
10 monks, highly skilled in meditation, to a neuroscience study.
VERY interesting results!
Full story here:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.02/dalai.html
Hmmmmm........................../me goes to get Tibetan book of the deadQuote:
"The motivations of both Davidson and the Dalai Lama are questionable."
Yes, I do have one in the house ;)
I wonder why this shocks any body. we know that repetitive activity rewitres the nural pathways in our brain..why would meditation be any diferent.
As you do ;)
Right next to my dictionary and thesaurus.
That was an interesting article Eyecre8 thanks.
I don't agree with the protestors in the article. I don't think that the Dalai Llama can possibly be qualified to talk on neuroscience BUT I doubt many people are better qualified to talk on meditation and the inner effects on his consciousness.
I can understand how some scientist could question Davidson's closeness to the Dalai Llama and it's possible effect on his interpretation of his results.
It's refreshing to see a religious order (sect?) being open to science and allowing it to examine some of it's claims. IF teh religion is open to it then it should be quite possible for the experiments to be repeated by other researchers to confirm or dispute claims made by Davidson.
Same story in Time:
http://brainimaging.waisman.wisc.edu...ary%202006.htm
bballad: I think it's the scale of the changes and the changes to brain function that are surprising. Most natural changes to the brain are small scale both physically and in effect.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...G=Search&meta=
Sorry to question you old chap:
I would suggest that the Speer 485 grain semi jacketed, semi wadcutter, hollowpoint might transcend your analysis...............even before I put in the mercury?Quote:
Most natural changes to the brain are small scale both physically and in effect.
:D :cool:
At first I found it kind of humorous that the Dalai Lama has a hacking "faction".
I now understand why though:
1) China caught hacking Tibet supporters A Beijing-based Internet company has been implicated in creating a program specifically designed to spy on computers of Tibetan Government-in-Exile (TGIE) and Tibet Support Groups (TSG).
2) China implicated in Dalai Lama hack plot China has repeatedly attempted to crack into the Dalai Lama's computer network, according to its administrators.......
3) China denies trying to hack Dalai Lama's network Tuesday that Chinese hackers had designed a special virus to
plug into the network and steal information.....
4) Chinese, Tibetan dissidents report state-sponsored hacking from Beijing
Overseas-based dissident groups have been bombarded with Internet virus and hacking attacks from mainland sources in what they say is a coordinated attempt to disrupt their operations and spy on their computer networks....
That last word is telling....IMO I believe that the Buddhist's are pretty much the most openminded of the lot...very tolerant of all....(maybe we should throw a few monks in amongst the Islamists, and hope it rubs off)..Quote:
But if they allow reverence for him to cloud their judgment, they will cease to be scientists and take rebirth as something quite different: acolytes.
Have to laugh though as soon as I saw the name "Leary"....I suppose we'll have to throw out our Prozacs now and get ready for the next generation of "Mind Altering Drugs".....lets see LSD was such a big hit......."Drop In and Drop Out"Timothy Leary......Quote:
“There are three side effects of acid: enhanced long-term memory, decreased short-term memory, and I forget the third.”
As far as the Monks, being able to do what they do,it requires massive "Self Discipline", and you think that by introducing this into school like PE is going to work for today's kids......Sh*t half of them are allready on "Ritalin" so they can suppossedly concentrate.....so trying to have a class full of kids, sit in the lotus position and hhhuuummmm mantras until they can find that spot for nirvana is well..........loopy...... ;)
Nihil I reckon there might be a scientist hiding under those bandoliers and the .50 caliber sniper rifle.
I do like the quote from the site about the rifle:
Mwahaha look at my BOOM stick!!!Quote:
“My spotter positively identified a target at 1400 meters carrying an RPG on a water tower. I engaged the target. The top half of the torso fell forward out of the tower and the lower portion remained in the tower.” 325th PIR Sniper
Hi Aspman
The "Lite .50" is an impressive bit of kit..............I would say that they underestate it............I would certainly feel comfortable out to 3500x
Unertyl make the optics, an old German outfit who have been making sniperscopes since WWI.
They are right about UEDs...............I used to use an L34-A1 (SMLE rebored for 7.62NATO and with a heavy Enfield hammered target barrel..........Cooke Trout & Simms 4x scope)
A .50 explosive round does up the ante somewhat...........I could generally scrounge some purple spot :eek:
And killing people is bloody bad manners...........unless you voted for them first, in which case it is allowed :D
They just withdrew the SLRs when I started shooting and left us with the L81-A1 which got withdrawn itself 4 years later when the breach started to crack on some of them (some dirty little Welsh toerags hadn't been cleaning them properly so I heard) leaving us with the L98. Horrible bit of kit. The split pins use to break all the time and the fecker would fall apart half way through a comp. Got to Bisley 3 times with the L81 but I couldn't shoot the L98 for ****.
We used to store our L81s in RAF Leuchers. It was always good going in to pick them up from the armoury. All those nasty bits of kit on the racks (that and having to step over the RPGs lying on the floor). It was gun porn when your 15.
Terribly sorry old chap...............I was quite incorrect............I meant the L39-A1
The L34-A1 is the Sterling SMG, which I also used to teach :D
Your "RPGs" were probably the 84mm Carl Gustav?............"Charlie G's" we used to call them ;) It is actually a recoilless rifle rather than an RPG..........I can remember that there was an adapter for an SLR, and blank rounds to fire those early RPGs?
:eek:
EDIT: http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn44-e.htm
EDIT#2 The L96-A1 is good
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn44-e.htm
You need to click the blue link
It think the rocket doobry looked a bit like that 84mm but was the tube for those disposable anti-tank weapons. They were just cheap plastic that was thrown away after it was fired. No idea if it was a spent weapon or a live one lying on the floor.
Lots of 9mm HKs, GPMGs etc sitting about the place + all the servicemens personal weapons. This was when you were allowed to own a handgun.
Yes, we did have the American 66mm disposable back then.............and I do remember when we were allowed to own handguns...............I had a S&W Mod 14 revolver, a Mod 59 in 9mm, and a Colt .45 Auto.................
:D
Hhmmm I see where the Buddha's teachings of compassion and peace with the world has really turned you two WLD afficiando's into preparing for the "Apocolypse" :D
Edit: WLD (Weapons of Little Destruction)
IMHO the FN-FAL C1 http://www.marstar.ca/fnc1s.htm by far the most durable of the lot, mud or snow.....weighed alot though and was a bitch on long marches.... :p
Hmmmmm,
"FN" is Fabrique National De Armes De Guerre Belgique..............I think that Negative will back me on that one? It is what we called the "SLR" (self loading rifle) "Browning" to Yanks?
The secret is to take a screwdriver and turn the gas regulator up to #9..............that rattles their teeth next time they fire it
:D
Not that I would know anything about that sort of thing...................
Yeah, it was originally built by the Belgium's, but we modified them for the weather conditions we experience, you know in case the ruskies came over the North Pole, heading to Washington via Ottawa...http://world.guns.ru/assault/as24f-e.htm our's looke more along the lines of the brazillian version, you can see our LMG verison C2...that was a hoot letting that thing off....shells flying everywhere....Quote:
Originally posted here by nihil
Hmmmmm,
"FN" is Fabrique National De Armes De Guerre Belgique..............I think that Negative will back me on that one? It is what we called the "SLR" (self loading rifle) "Browning" to Yanks?
The secret is to take a screwdriver and turn the gas regulator up to #9..............that rattles their teeth next time they fire it
:D
Not that I would know anything about that sort of thing...................
Messing with the regulator was always a fun trick with the instructors, man the cheek bones would take days to heal.... :rolleyes:
I only ever shot at paper men ;)Quote:
Hhmmm I see where the Buddha's teachings of compassion and peace with the world has really turned you two WLD afficiando's into preparing for the "Apocolypse"
I'm not the shot I once was but I'm still better than average. A decent rifle and I'd cause some trouble during the apocolypse :D
On holiday I tend to get sent by the missus to the air rifle shooting to go win her a T-shirt or something. Last time I was never winning, kept getting beaten by these Irish guys. Turned out they were all RM Commandos on holiday. Ego suitably deflated by the professionals I went to the bar instead and saw they drink better than me too :(
How's your darts... :D it's that gotta do something with the right hand thingy (unless your a left hand thingy) and bending of elbows, all timed to the drill Sarg's cadence....well 2 out of 3 ain't all bad.... :pQuote:
Turned out they were all RM Commandos on holiday. Ego suitably deflated by the professionals I went to the bar instead and saw they drink better than me too
I used to do okay with the FN, just pretended that face belonged to the Cox'n and let her rip....the one I used to have fun with though was the Sten,.....had to walk it to the target and fight it to keep it centered, by the time you got to the target ,you were empty.... :D (and that's standing still..)
Hmmm,
figure #11 politicians perhaps?Quote:
I only ever shot at paper men
When they shot my driver, I was not best pleased............I had a CAR-15.................11 were found, but I would guess I had the same again in walking wounded...............
It is not something I would do today?
:D
Darts...not so good. Need a few pints to steady the air first.
They took away the SLRs just when I turned old enough to shoot them (13 and a bit). Some nut job went postal round a Town called Hungerford. After that they dropped the legal caliber of semi-autos to .22. I was a cadet so we were officially civilians and had the rifles withdrawn from us.
There is a fair kick on the L81. Especially when your 13 and weigh 8 stone. My best ever was a 33.5 (might mean more to Nihil, max is 35.7) in the rain at 600m. We had a few guys that were good enough to get across to Canada to shoot there but I was never that good. We had to stop when we were 18 for the cadet comps and it was always too expensive to take on as a hobby after.
Them were the days...
Hmmmm
They were called the "Athlings"Quote:
We had a few guys that were good enough to get across to Canada to shoot there
;)
Hack, Ptui! Scopes! Heck, back in da 'nam we jest walked the Maw-deuce three-round bursts into the target area using the odd tracer. The ammo grunt with field glasses helped direct the fire onto the dude in the tree about 4 clicks out.
Din't need no stinkin' scopes!
Hack, Ptui!
I thought "Athlings" came form Middle Earth............or would they be related to this bunch...Quote:
Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving With a Pict.... :p
Yeah bloody amateurs eh!, I agree our 5" forward gun would do a much better job.... :DQuote:
Hack, Ptui! Scopes!