I've heard a lot of opinions about whether it is bad for the computer to turn it off by pressing the button on the front of it. Is this true, or just a myth?? :confused:
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I've heard a lot of opinions about whether it is bad for the computer to turn it off by pressing the button on the front of it. Is this true, or just a myth?? :confused:
Well...its not bad for the hardware....but it is bad for the operating system...because there are many services and open files that can become corrupted.
Best is to use shut down from the operating system
MLF
With Windows XP and a reasonably modern computer (i.e. ATX power supply) it's fine. It will just signal the computer to turn itself off, which is exactly the same as using Start -> Turn Off. That's assuming you tap the button. Holding it down will kill the power without giving the OS a chance to shut down, which is not a good idea.
With previous operating systems and with AT power supplies, it's not a good idea. It will kill the power without giving the OS a chance to shut down.
its far more effitient to bypass it all with a little sysmic adjustment utilising a pall pin hammer.
there should be a place in the Bios menu that allows you to choose what the Off button will do. you can set it so that once it's pressed then it will safely shut down windows. or you can set it so that if pressed it will put the computer into Hibernation mode etc etc.
cheers
front2back
Fronties ~ is spot on, you can set the shut down events in all currently used Windows.
Doesn't anyone remember the old:
IT IS NOW SAFE TO TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER
You then used the front (or back) button to shut it down?
I shall have to start the evening session by being nice ;)
I won't go for the spelling innovations other than pall pin.............I am enough of a hardware engineer to only take a ball pein hammer to a computer.....................unless it is stubborn, in which case a six-pound lump hammer will do the job :DQuote:
its far more effitient to bypass it all with a little sysmic adjustment utilising a pall pin hammer.
and with F2B's comment.. for shutting down a system in quicktime, A soft powerdown, the power button on an ATX system is about the safest fastest, for both software and hardware.Quote:
With Windows XP and a reasonably modern computer (i.e. ATX power supply) it's fine. It will just signal the computer to turn itself off, which is exactly the same as using Start -> Turn Off. That's assuming you tap the button. Holding it down will kill the power without giving the OS a chance to shut down, which is not a good idea.
with this shutdown, same as shutdown /f, in other words a software powerdown. The HDDs have all write operations closed before power down, the supplies close in correct order, with BIOS/Standby circuits beingg all thats left with power.
Even the Mobo shutdown (hold the power button for 5 to 10 seconds) is better for hardware than a cold switch..Supplies close cleanly.. it is only any hdd write ops that are affected.. certainly best if you suspect a virus, or have a lockup. not so friendly to the OS or cahced data
Now the Cold/Hard power switch... that is same as pulling the plug.. this can (with some PSU's) send voltage spikes into the mobo, the supply rails dont close cleanly, this can damage some hardware, if not immediatly, certainly will in the long run. only to be used as a last resort..ie water / fire hazzard. Having said that, there are some psu's that are able to perform a safe close of supplies.. but most of us dont know what tech is in the box in the box
IF your not aware, while the power cable is connected to a ATX PSU/mobo combination, you have circuits on the mobo that are powered. so if your replacing cards, memory, cpu..the board is live..
Hhhmmm that must be the Rural spelling version or is it just native to the UK?? :pQuote:
I won't go for the spelling innovations other than pall pin.............I am enough of a hardware engineer to only take a ball pein hammer to a computer
Ball Peen
Dalek old chap.................English belongs to us?...........God gave you maple trees and beavers instead?
http://www.stanleytools.com/default....L+PEIN+HAMMERS
It is our way of describing them.............they are basically engineers or metal workers hammers?
:D
That must be "Stanley" from the our carry on gang........We'll keep the beavers though... :DQuote:
Originally posted here by nihil
Dalek old chap.................English belongs to us?...........God gave you maple trees and beavers instead?
http://www.stanleytools.com/default....L+PEIN+HAMMERS
It is our way of describing them.............they are basically engineerts or metal workers hammers?
:D
50/50 eh!.....Peen \Peen\, n. [Cf. G. pinne pane of a hammer.]
(a) A round-edged, or hemispherical, end to the head of a
hammer or sledge, used to stretch or bend metal by
indentation.
(b) The sharp-edged end of the head of a mason's hammer.
[Spelt also pane, pein, and piend.]
Pein \Pein\, n.
See Peen.
Or does 'Peen" overide "Pein"...then 60/40 for me........ ;)
Bloody english.. give me or-bloody-stralian any day..
To simplify our language, and therefore raise our literacy standards.. new spelling of many words means that formally misspelt words are now generally accepted..
even dropping vowels is allowed in many words..
my mate David is impressed..... we can now spell his name DvD..
Holy ****, i know i proof read it yesterday when i posted, but damn the 'p' key isn't anywhere near the 'b' key. I blame this on my new method of avoiding hangovers, since a hangover is caused by de-hydration i have found if you wake up and slam a beer or two first thing in the morning, not only will it wake you up faster than coffee, but you won't start the day with a hangover and you give yourself about another hour to properly re-hydrate your body.Quote:
I won't go for the spelling innovations other than pall pin.............
I loves da beavers. Yep.Quote:
beavers
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And it's colour not color damnit !!
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I love how my GNU/Linux also catches the ACPI signals from the 'power' button and when root is logged in asks wheter to halt.. (with a 30 second timeout).
I find a copper/hide mallet is better and safer to use on anything, for starters it has a nice weight to it, and you can smack two of them together without the risk of them shattering and leaving shards of sharp metal flying in all directions.
Hang on, this isn't the motorcycle repair forum??????
LOL :DQuote:
Originally posted here by JonnyFrond
I find a copper/hide mallet is better and safer to use on anything, for starters it has a nice weight to it, and you can smack two of them together without the risk of them shattering and leaving shards of sharp metal flying in all directions.
Hang on, this isn't the motorcycle repair forum??????