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Hi,
I have setup a VPN connection between 2 pcs (using WinXp Incoming Connections). I can connect to the VPN server and browse the internet.
I want to run p2p application, download torrents...etc but I am not sure if VPN would hide these connections. Would a system admin be able to tell that I am running p2p application if I was tunneling the connection through VPN?
Thanks
A good sys admin would certainly see the traffic, though the VPN might mask the actual app. P2P's generate a lot of volume and that's going to be a red flag.
You might check company or school policy on P2P's before you do something like that. Could cost you...
Have you read the site FAQ?Quote:
Originally posted here by thesmashest
Hi,
I have setup a VPN connection between 2 pcs (using WinXp Incoming Connections). I can connect to the VPN server and browse the internet.
I want to run p2p application, download torrents...etc but I am not sure if VPN would hide these connections. Would a system admin be able to tell that I am running p2p application if I was tunneling the connection through VPN?
Thanks
No one here is going to assist you in circumventing security controls. We're the same people who have to deal with the likes of you.
That said, you'll be seen before you search for your first download. The VPN admin can see all traffic in the tunnel. Before you do something idiotic, stop. Go home and break the law with your own equipment.
--TH13
Ok forget about p2p.......in case I would like to download legitimate legal material- torrents (like podcasts...etc) what would be the safest way to do that without breaking the law?
Uhm...downloading legitimate legal materials does not break the law. Thus the words legitimate and legal.Quote:
Originally posted here by thesmashest
Ok forget about p2p.......in case I would like to download legitimate legal material- torrents (like podcasts...etc) what would be the safest way to do that without breaking the law?
What are you trying to do? Not the technical "use p2p over my personal VPN tunnel". Grander; big picture; wider scope. Download the latest Podcast from hit-80's-MTV-VJ Adam Curry?
I want to download legal torrents without causing any problems. Obviously if admins see a lot of traffic they'll assume that I am downloading illegal material and I don't think they'll be checking what I am downloading before they report me. So I want to avoid all this.
I guess it all depends on the AUP...Acceptable Use Policy_ of the network and internet connection you are using.
I know of some policies that you cannot use MSN while on the network....MSN is not illegal
...but it is not allowed on the network...
Seems to me that you are trying to do something and hide it from the admins of the network..... :eek:
which seems very suspicious to say the least.
Take the advice given...use your own connection and equipment.... :D
MLF
Ya see, even if you want to DL "legal" things, if p2p is against the AUP, it makes no difference if the material is legal. The bottom line is you're going to attempt to do something that you know is wrong otherwise you wouldn't be trolling for information here.
Now, go home and do your downloading otherwise I can sense that you're going to get an avalanche of negs very soon.
Torrents are ALWAYS a lot of traffic. It's like sneakin' an 18-wheeler up and down the driveway. You can paint it to look like a racecar, but it's still a truckload. LOL.
Don't believe it? Put together three computers on your home network: two Windows boxes and a Linux box. Set up one Windows box to run torrents, one just to do some casual surfing and then run Etherape on the Linux box. You'll see there's no hiding torrents, even if you throttle back the download/upload speeds.
You're just askin' for it...
The vpn encrypts your traffic to prevent people
out on the net from reading it. This won't
keep the admins at your location from
decrypting it and knowing whether or not it
is legitimate use of your computer, and your time.
Assuming you are at school or at work, of course.
At home, however, enjoy yourself.
:cool:
By default VPN's will hide the traffic. For the most part thats what VPN's are supposed to do. Although in a VPN environment you can certainly see the quantity of traffic passing through a given network. If they are a p2p program it will most likely try to use as much bandwidth as possible to accomplich its mission. We use a Packeteer on our netowork and can pretty much tell everything that is going on.
Botom line, if its illegal, or not part of the acceptible use policy then dont do it.
[hypothetical] I want to rob a bank. Can someone send me the schematics to the bank and instructions on how to get past the alarm and vault? [/hypothetical]
[Guru] "Thats illegal and you are stupid"
[Luser] "Errr.... I want to figure it out so i can access my account after hours and noone will know about it
I love how once someone figures out what you are attempting to do an ill attempt is made at covering it up and making it look like noone really knows what you are getting at...
Kind of like the kid who thinks because he can't see you that you are unable to see him... even though his method of secrecy is a blind fold
Thanks all for the info. Apparently some members take life too seriously and get offended for no reason.
apparently.....
Some members are lusers trying to circumvent policies in place for reasons far to complicated for them to understand.
MLF
:D I rest my case ^^^
Rest it on what...Your arrogance? Why don't you ask the network admins how to do this, so they can give you the official line. Cuz they wont allow it?Quote:
Same reason we won't say how. Many of us do the same things for a living. It's called professional courtesy; same reason why lawyers have no fear of shark attack or being eaten by phirana.