Give SUSE Linux 10.1 a Try :)

Hi all,
SUSE 10.1 came out yesterday. If you haven't already downloaded it, I'll make it easy for you (Well, easier). If you're using Linux and don't want to use bit torrent, just do this:

Copy and paste the following into a text file:


http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...on-oss/MD5SUMS
http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...don-Biarch.iso
http://download.opensuse.org/distrib....1/iso/MD5SUMS
http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...M-i386-CD1.iso
http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...M-i386-CD2.iso
http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...M-i386-CD3.iso
http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...M-i386-CD4.iso
http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...M-i386-CD5.iso


Name the file suse_download
do mkdir suse (in your home directory)
mv suse_download suse

cd suse
wget -i suse_download

(This will use the wget tool to automatically download the 6 installation cds and their md5sums into the suse directory in your home directory. The advantage to this is that the downloads are done without you having to click on another link when each download is done.)


The above links are for the 32 bit Intel x86 architecture.

If you're using something else here is the direct link to the download page.

Download Page


The "non-oss" links are for non-open souce software (Flash, Adobe Reader, Real Player, etc.). You can install SUSE with the other 5 cds. This cd is necessary only if you want to install the non-open source stuff already mentioned.


This isn't meant to be an installation tutorial, just some things to be aware of.

1)Toward the beginning of the installation if you want to install the non-oss software, there will be a screen which will allow you to insert the non-oss cd and select the option to install from it. Here is one place I think the insta. llation could be better. It's easy to miss. Please read each screen carefully.

2) With all of the other Linux installations I have done, you don't reboot until the end of the installation. With SUSE you will reboot after installing cd1 and the non-oss cd. Don't let this throw you.
3) ReiserFS did not work for me. I tried with three installation attempts to use reiserfs, but got an error message and a failed installation each time. It may work for you. Just be prepared. If you do have this problem, a workaround, might be to use ext3 or XFS instead.
4) Towards the end of the installation, you will have a chance to set up regular (non-root) user accounts. To set up more than one, you will need to click on the "user management" tab. If you forget, you can find a user management option in YAST later on.
5) If you're using a scanner you might need to use the hardware module in YAST to set it up after the installation

I was over at open SuSE earlier today trying to search for a document. That site is all but not working because everyone I trying to get it. I almost clicked the link to download but I think I'll buy it and support SuSE. Or wait for linux journal to package it. :p Anyway I could never get a search page to come up. People love SuSE.

Thanks for the download info. That comes in handy. Wonder why ReiserFS won't work for you. I have that on all my SuSE boxes so that makes me leary of upgrading. I'll have to wait and see whats what.

Preach on Brother! :)

Hi all,
At the moment, there is not a DVD version available as far as I know.

Notice: If you are using wget to download these files, do this first. Give the command wget -V.

This will give the version of wget you are using. If it is a version lower than GNU Wget 1.10.2 do not use it. The version prior to this was subject to a buffer overflow exploit, which this version fixed. Also, wget has been criticized for lax security programming by some. As far as I know, all security issues have been addressed with the current version. But still, use it at your own risk!

Windows users. There is a version of wget for Windows available. I have not used it, and it's possible that the installation is not as easy as regular Windows programs. You can google and find it rather easily. But, you may be better off just downloading these files the old fashion way. Spend your energy learning Linux once you get it installed :D

The installation is every bit as easy :D. Just unzip the archive into it's own folder. I love wget :D. It's one hell of a tool, especially when scripting file retrievals. It's one of the first two *NIX tools I install in Windows (the other one being grep).

Cheers,
cgkanchi

Thanks for the info cgkanchi
:)
Btw, another issue I had was that during the media check the non-oss cd failed twice. After the first failure I redownloaded the cd and burned it again with K3B. This cd failed again. I went ahead with the installation and it seemed to work ok. Don't know what's up with this.

Has anyone tried the apt-get dist upgrade from 10.0 to 10.1?

Also, if you upgrade from 10.0 to 10.1... will Nessus still work?
Right now, they only have a binary released for 10.0

Also, if you want to lessen the load on the suse mirrors... there is always the torrent!

I get MUCH faster speeds on the torrents and it makes me feel better because I'm contributing something to the suse community. (bandwidth).

http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...M-i386.torrent

Hey Hey,

For those of you that don't want to overload the SuSE servers or that aren't happy with the speeds. I'm currently grabbing everything (at 500KB/s :) )... Anyways... I'll be putting everything up on my server which is a "18000mbit connection" and everyone that's used it thus far has had great luck with it... you'll max out your download speed instead of the other way around...

I'll post the links as soon as I can get them up there (hopefully by tomorrow night)..

Peace,
HT

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Thanks for the info cgkanchi

Btw, another issue I had was that during the media check the non-oss cd failed twice. After the first failure I redownloaded the cd and burned it again with K3B. This cd failed again. I went ahead with the installation and it seemed to work ok. Don't know what's up with this.

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Maybe the MD5 itself was entered wrongly/corrupted? Or maybe the MD5 might have been for a slightly different internal version that they forgot to update?

Cheers,
cgkanchi

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Maybe the MD5 itself was entered wrongly/corrupted? Or maybe the MD5 might have been for a slightly different internal version that they forgot to update?

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Hmm, I don't know. I think I got the second non-oss from a different mirror than the first. So I assumed (hoped) that the problem was not the image itself. And, it seems to have worked fine.

Hey Hey,

I've mirrored these on my website if anyone is interested...

You can get them all at http://www.aoaddicts.net/htregz/suse/

Peace,
HT

To give an idea of the speeds...

From my home connection (5Mbps cable) I was downloading at about 640KB/s -- 20% into the file..
From my work connection (Unknown) I was downloading at about 1200KB/s -- 20% into the file..

OK, so the apt-get dist-upgrade failed horribly. Ah well, what can you do?

Well, it worked... however, now x can't find the nvidia kernel module. I try to download it and compile it using the nvidia installer and that fails too. I haven't had a chance to troubleshoot it further.

I guess I'll just have to try it from a CD install. Damn... and when I was just REALLY starting to like the setup I had... ah well, easy to fix again.

Ok, I'm finally getting around to fixing up the suse 10.1 install on my laptop. I went to write a perl script and fired up my laptop to find grub corrupted and then I remembered that I didn't finish this install... (I've been caught up in Resident Evil 4... :( )

Anyway, did anyone ever get nessus 3.03 working with 10.1? I looked again tonight and they have yet to release a binary (rpm) for 10.1. Will the rpm for 10.0 work on 10.1? If not, is there a way to trick it?

Why not just install from source? I had to do that for one of my programs.

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Well, it worked... however, now x can't find the nvidia kernel module. I try to download it and compile it using the nvidia installer and that fails too. I haven't had a chance to troubleshoot it further.

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Video drivers are ALWAYS an issue. Companies like ATI and Nvidia need to get off their soap box and release open source drivers. Take ATI if you don't run their installer and match their limited hardware support you have to rely on projects like DRI or GLX. Even with proprietary drivers you have to REALY pay attention to dependencies listed by the installation documentation. I had a BITCH of a time getting 3d accelleration to work on 10.0 so I could play GL-117 without it looking like an Atari 2600.

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Why not just install from source? I had to do that for one of my programs.

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Sometimes that is the ONLY way around updated systems.

I have no problems with drivers at all.

I buy nothing but Nvidia and I download the .sh script, shut down X, type sh NV(HitTab) it fills in the rest... Then hit Enter. I agree to the installer, and it installs the driver.

Restart X, use sax2 to tell it I want 3D and I'm done. Works without one problem.

I do the same for Slackware.

It gets a little trickier with a 64 bit processor. :p

Well buy me one and I'll write you soem docs :)

lol. It's pretty cool having a 64 bit wide screen laptop. But let me tell ya, I have bought 2 other 64 bit machines each running linux and it's a bitch. I was going to try a dual core but I think I'll wait. But on the windows side some games fly with dual core.

/EDIT speaking of software pains. I have been trying to get Pear to work with all the modules I need ALL damn morning and just now got it working. The version of pear I need for another module does not support package.xml 2.0 and the latests version of Pear core that do would not install do to inconsistancies. So I have been building module after module from source all morning. I don't mind though. It's fun, got good tunes and it's like a puzzle. Having just solved it onto the next.

question can i install by imulation ? use 120% or damon if I partion my HD! let me know please have no cdr to to use at the moment

thanks

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Originally posted here by preacherman481
Why not just install from source? I had to do that for one of my programs.

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I'm not sure if this is directed at me... however, I'll respond anyhow. Installing from source is my preferred way to install. The installed program is normally going to be faster when built for the environment it's running in and not an assumed environment.

My main concern was nessus. Nessus no longer offers source code to install from. :(

Either way. I'm working on SuSE 10.1 and couldn't be happier with the OS. :)

I'm just installed it but i did not get a desktop? just a bunch of text and i had no idea what i was doing? i was abl to log in but that was all I'm going to try again but dif download maybe thiis time it will work any thought would be great

Newbie

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I'm just installed it but i did not get a desktop? just a bunch of text and i had no idea what i was doing? i was abl to log in but that was all I'm going to try again but dif download maybe thiis time it will work any thought would be great

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Hmm, maybe on your first install somehow it was setup to boot into run level 3 instead of run level 5 which is the full graphical mode. If this is the case you could give the command:

$startx

at the command prompt. This would bring you to the graphical mode.

In order to boot straight into graphical mode you can do this::

you will need to edit the file /etc/inittab. You will need to be root to do this.

One of the lines will look something like this:
# The default runlevel is defined here
id:3:initdefault:

You will need to edit it to look like this:
# The default runlevel is defined here
id:5:initdefault:

Anyway, you may have already reinstalled by now. Post again if you need help. I will try, if I can.

Or instead of editing X11 which no one REALLY like, just load YAST2 or in text mode yast, and using that to edit your video settings.

So, Phish, I want to hear it, "RedHat has nothing on SUSE" :)

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Originally posted here by gore
Or instead of editing X11 which no one REALLY like, just load YAST2 or in text mode yast, and using that to edit your video settings.

So, Phish, I want to hear it, "RedHat has nothing on SUSE" :)

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I can't say that... I still like Fedora Core. But, I def. have to give SuSE props. It works great.

You better, the firt time you tried it I spent what 8 hours on AIM with you helping you set it up the way you had RedHat? lol. ;)

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My main concern was nessus. Nessus no longer offers source code to install from.

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This is an example of why, despite all the BS, using open source can be risky. What if that was Apache and your company ran 500 apache servers? I know that's going extreme but a business risk none the less.

But there is now an open source movement in Nessus.

On the flip side this is ALSO an example of open source develpers getting taken advantage off by other companies packaging their code into devices and selling them for outragous sums. I have seen scanning appliances that use Nessus as it's core selling for 40k each! And consultants using Nessus for a barebones pen test and charging 8k for setting on their ass and printing a report. Hey dumb ass pen testers, we know what a nessus report looks like. Custom software my ass. :D

Oh back to Open Nessus there are a couple of ideas one is OpenVAS (Open Source Vulnerability Assessment Scanner) a product of GNessUS . But not much happening on either. Or even what name is going to be adopted for the fork.

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But there is now an open source movement in Nessus.

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That is one major advantage of open souce. If a project goes closed source, anyone with the skills and interest and take the old source code and start developing it. With closed sourced software, if the supplier decides to let it die, it's dead.

I agree with you preacher, however in the case of nessus there has been very little contribution outside of Tenable, as compared to other projects. Heck it's been months and there is still barely a whisper of the open source side.