Get rid of a trouble maker?

Okay most of us have seen thread after thread started by JP that are basicaly designed to do nothing but start riots. He will disapear for months at a time and then come back and whine about how bad the site is now. Personaly I would much rather be able to come to the site without having to see people bashing it. So since JP is imune to the AP system and a few of his sycophants would never allow him to drop to such a low level as to actualy get banned, all we can do is put it to a vote. Maybe if we get enough yes votes JupMed will finaly do something about this pain in the ass. And Im sure a few of his fan boys will neg the living **** out of me for this but so be it. I have plenty of APs to spare for a good cause. So cast your vote and let people know how you feel.

ZomBieMann77,

In fact I remember some of his earlier threads where he actually stated to go ahead and do it. That's the confusing part - it wasn't done. lmao, probably can't contractually. But it's most definitely an interesting thought, Banning the Founder :cool: However, I choose another option when he or any member becomes irritating and negs don't apply: Ignore. I believe that's more appropriate and will have stronger affect on him anyway.

I would modify your poll to include: Ignore JP

cheers

edit: All he does is post and we're the one's that respond. Even now, he's not here and we're making a thread about him. Mission successful.... :rofl:

Allow me to play Devil's Advocate if I may. My question to you is what compelling reason does JupMed have for banning him? I dont think just because a bunch of us complain that they would actually listen or do anything. What hard evidence do we have that he is actually causing serious trouble. I dont think JupMed would even care unless he was "destabling the site" like hacking or seriously messing up the day to day going on's of AO. All he is doing is stirring up **** which happens on AO all the time. But, I must agree ever since he sold the site he really doesnt come back and say anything productive he just gets people all riled up. But honestly even with this vote what can we do about it?

I won't say he should be banned (at least not yet), but I do believe no one except site admins should be immune to antipoints. I think he should be given enough APs to give him 11 green dots, and then let it go from there.

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Originally posted here by preacherman481
I won't say he should be banned (at least not yet), but I do believe no one except site admins should be immune to antipoints. I think he should be given enough APs to give him 11 green dots, and then let it go from there.

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I don't know about that, why should he get a jumpstart, make him earn them with "quality" posts, if he can instead of just shite disturbing.Everyone else has to earn them one way or the other.So regardless of misplaced loyalties, he would be expected to contribute?

My opinion: Ban Him.

My professional opinion from a moderator's perspective: Use preacherman's idea and subject him to the AP system again. Then, if the community as a whole finds him to be a pain in the ass, he'll see his own message. :) Basically, my point is.. subjecting him to AP's again will basically make him a regular user (which he should be anyways) and will allow the community to dictate whether or not he should be here..

Just my two cents.. (actually four cents since it's two opinions ;))

HA im the only one who voted no

im such a kiss ass :(

Yes.. yes, you are. :D

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I don't know about that, why should he get a jumpstart, make him earn them with "quality" posts, if he can instead of just shite disturbing.Everyone else has to earn them one way or the other.So regardless of misplaced loyalties, he would be expected to contribute?

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Well, it would create some accountability, but also give him some respect for being the creator of the site.

He may be the creator but I think the JP who created this site is not the JP we see today.... I dont think he was always such a **** stirrer, was he :confused:

Well, not really.. but... regardless. Someone said it in that thread, dunno who, but it was something like JP has "sellers bitterness" or something like that. I think it's that and a bit more..

No need for a Ban, strip that Gold dot from him, and then it's up to him wether or not he wants to be a positive member around the site or not, if he wants to stir things up, then good for him.
But there is no reason why he should be able to hide behind he's immunity, he's just a regular member now.

So if he wants to stay then he'll start posting positive stuff, and not coming here everynow and again to stir the pot and leave and watch the **** hit the fan from a distance..


so with that said, i will vote Ban, as he should have he's immunity banned, not he's membership. :)

Blah, in any event.. I believe he should definitely have his gold dot status removed. I have no clue as to why he still has that, especially considering the stunts he pulls.

Maybe the contract he has with JumpM says that his gold dot stays untill so and so or whatever.....I dont really care about his threads, nobody forces up to reply to them.....

LMAO! Do you really think that in a professional buisness contract, there would be ANYTHING concerning a colored .gif image and karma status? *sigh* :(

I'd be pretty hilarious if there was, but yeah.. :D

EDIT: As I sit and watch JP view this thread, and not reply.. it just furthers my point that his lurking while watching what he has done needs to be addressed, whether it is taking away his dot or banning him.

Well you never know. He could've added that part :) it does sound stupid now that i think about it but still.....

Greetings:


I'll bet anyone my next paycheck that after the past two day ****-storm, something will come of it. I still think that there has been an awful lot of over reaction on many members parts. Yet I do see some positives that have come out of it.

Many people were able to voice how they felt regarding not just JP, but each other and the sense that there is a certain amount of injustice around AO (whether this is true or not). Yet I think everyone needs to take a deep breath, step back and realize that we are all human, and we all make mistakes from time to time, and that forgiveness is an important part of any community, whether real or virtual. It remains an important part of us a diverse group of people that things remain on the table at all times.


I think AO is what we make it for better or for worse, it is far from dead, and the JP thread proves that enough people care about it to say so.

P:

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LMAO! Do you really think that in a professional buisness contract, there would be ANYTHING concerning a colored .gif image and karma status?

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No but there may be something about jump not being allowed to modify his status. In anycase I dont think he should be banned.
The problem isn't JP it is the people who get all hot under the collar when ever he posts. If he makes a useless post just dont answer. Take his last post for example within 24h of posting he had about 4 pages of replies.

Why not just ban the original account and let him create a new one?

That would do everything that people have suggested.

Reset his stats, let the AP system affect him, and make him "mortal" again.

I'd bet we'll see the same type of attitude from him. He'll create an account, start some sh17 and then get banned. Then he'll do it all over again in a few months to follow.\

Is JP the new Spec?

Personally, I think it's annoying. I don't think he should be banned permanently as that limits his "free speech". Just make it so everyone can also voice their opinions with an AP system he setup just for that purpose.

You can't just get rid of someone because you may not like what they have to say. You can, however, at least try to make it "fair".

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Originally posted here by The Texan
He may be the creator but I think the JP who created this site is not the JP we see today.... I dont think he was always such a **** stirrer, was he :confused:

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Do you not remember that whole Attrition.org thing that went down? Or how about the mailbag in general? Yeah, he made a mark by stirring up ****... AO wouldn't be what it is without it though.

I don't have a problem with JPs posts, on the whole. I do have a problem with someone that isn't an active part of the site having "god" status on the boards. I think the gold dot needs to go, but a banning isn't in order as there is no /reason/ to ban him. I honestly don't think the gold will go, nor do I think JupM will ban him... that would be bad mojo if they did.

Ban the gold dot.

I thought the 'gold' dot was generated by JP from when the AP's first appeared and people used to neg the admins constantly [cos they were anonymous then, and auto banning an admin was thought to be a damn fine game :)]

then he 'annointed' Intmon too, to stop the threat of an auto ban

so it would only be a matter of switching it 'off'
he may be impervious to AP hits
but he will still have an account with a total received / given out
just the same as the rest of us

so bin the gold
let him stand on his own two feet

he would probably still be damn nigh un-bannable
but at least we could have a pop :D

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I thought the 'gold' dot was generated by JP from when the AP's first appeared and people used to neg the admins constantly [cos they were anonymous then, and auto banning an admin was thought to be a damn fine game ]

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No, actually JP instituted it back when I was here in 2002. I believe he was thinking of instituting some type of "Premium Member" account that anyone could get. He had the "prototype" I guess, but it wasn't done before he sold the site. It seems it was used as a "remedy" for the situation you described. My idea is to give him a Senior Member type account with just enough APs to give him Senior status. This would not be invulnerable.

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Originally posted here by foxyloxley

let him stand on his own two feet

he would probably still be damn nigh un-bannable
but at least we could have a pop :D

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And by the looks of things on the stats page, a few members have been taking a good shot at him for the recent effort of his.

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Top negative AP earners this week:
» kraftwerk
» House929
» Maxvector616
» JP
» Negative
» Maverick811
» preacherman481
» gore
» thehorse13
» Lv4

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There must be something wrong with the stats because I haven't gotten any negatives.

Good Evening,

We still going on about JP? :D

Well I don't really care about that dot he's got. Kinda reminds me of a yellow-hole in the snow anyway. But what I do find most amazing is that for some reason folks allow him to get a good hold of their skivies, and hike 'em up! Sorta of a bionic wedgie thing going that binds 'em all up in a bad way.

My goodness he lights some of you up and opens the door for salvos. So I guess making himself canon fodder for a community attack (deliberate or not) actually unites folks. Albeit possibly on one side or the other, regardless it is unity.

cheers

//somewhat off topic

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There must be something wrong with the stats because I haven't gotten any negatives.

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Yes, I do not have much confidence in that table at the moment. I can see at least 4 people who I am certain have not had negative points in the past 10 days or so.

Also, people who haven't been around in a year or three keep popping up in the list. AFAIK that should not happen?

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I guess hes doing the same all over again,attention seeking, Brian Martin was right JP is nothing but a fraud

Relyt - You must spread your AntiPoints around before giving it to Relyt again.

Prodikal - That link is 5-7 years old. Lame.

deb kindly stfu you = lame if you read the negation its the same as what hes doing here so deb get off your ****ing high horse for a change and go to a site for bored ****ing house wives every time i post in a thread that you disagree with you try to single me out but alas you caught me on a bad day so go take a flying **** to yourself

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Originally posted here by preacherman481
There must be something wrong with the stats because I haven't gotten any negatives.

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yeah something is busted with those stats. I haven't received a neg in a while... at least a few weeks so I don't know why I would be a top neg earner ;)


Actually strike that. I did get a "neg" from someone that had a grey dot so it didn't really count. But that is only one neg...

prodikal: None of that was called for man, seriously.. I don't care how pissed off you are, how much I might agree with parts of what you mean, or anything.. you're wrong and I believe you owe debwalin an apology. NONE of that was called for and you know it..

Why wasnt it called for its not the first time i have been singled out by debwalin in a thread and it pisses me off and today wasnt the day to 'call me out' Spyder32 remeber after all this is just the internet with text on a screen and im sure debwalin is mature enough to handle my response maybe it will make her think next time she singles me out in a thread maybe i did get a bit hot under the collar but what i posted was relevant to the conversation as what happend in the negation i feel is happening here and for deb to come out and call my post lame i think its her who owes me an apology since she never posts anything relevant anyway except to defend the site as a communinty and not a security site as its supposed to be !

I singled out your post because it was singularly lame. And getting lamer by the minute.

"What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some 'men' you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way 'he' wants it... well, 'he' gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.
-Cool Hand Luke

This is a pointless thread about a pointless person. Let's just move on.

And your still not contributing never have never will

Zombieman apologies for taking your post O.T

mmm...... its one of those threads that everyone has a view on, everyone argues about, everyone puts in an idea......and nothing comes of it.........'cause JM dont really give a fcuk! and in a few days everyone will forget all about JP until next times he shows his ugly little head and posts more shite that reflect his intellect.

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ITS A ****ING GOLD DOT.

As someone has pointed out and has in every other freaking thread when the community decides that AP's or JupM isn't doing a job you CAN USE THE FREAKING IGNORE BUTTON.

Hrmm..

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This is a pointless thread about a pointless person. Let's just move on.

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I agree with that, and as such.. this thread is turning into a flame war not just towards JP but towards those posting inside of it. Thus, made this thread exceptionally pointless.. if anyone feels this is "power-trip" motivated, has a problem with me closing this, wants this to stay open, feel free to PM me. Until then, Thread Closed.

EDIT: Oh, and JP is viewing this again as we post. Mission Accomplished guys.. :rolleyes: