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July 6th, 2006, 10:32 AM
Time_Shadow

System Safety Monitor

Hi,

Can anyone share their experience/opinions concerning System Safety Monitor?

I haven't had the time to thoroughly test it out yet, but so far it looks good for freeware.

http://www.syssafety.com/files.html

Thanks!
July 6th, 2006, 11:46 AM
thehorse13

Have a look at the reviews on this site:

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail...r/1049832672/1

--TH13

PS
HIPS solutions are only as good as the admin who tuned them. ;)
July 6th, 2006, 10:55 PM
Time_Shadow

Thanks for the link.

Is there a way to find out if a particular software title is safe to use? I'm always reluctant when it comes to installing new software from companies that I'm not familiar with.

System Safety Monitor has been verified by Softpedia, plus the members at the Wilders Security forum seem to like it. Should this be enough proof that it's safe to use?

I also agree with you 100%. Security software must be properly configured.

Thanks!
July 17th, 2006, 08:18 AM
Ilya Rabinovich

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PS
HIPS solutions are only as good as the admin who tuned them. ;)

Well, it is right for the classical HIPS case, but wrong for the sandbox HIPS.
July 17th, 2006, 11:16 AM
nihil

Ilya ,

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Well, it is right for the classical HIPS case, but wrong for the sandbox HIPS.

Are you suggesting that sandboxes don't need to be set up?

What products are you talking about here?

:confused:
July 17th, 2006, 11:46 AM
Ilya Rabinovich

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Are you suggesting that sandboxes don't need to be set up?

I don't suggesting- it is the fact. Just place your browser, e-mail, P2P, IRC and IM clients under the sandbox HIPS's control- and that is all. Easy and simple.

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What products are you talking about here?

DefenseWall, SandboxIE, GeSWall, BufferZone.
July 17th, 2006, 02:39 PM
dalek

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Originally posted here by Time_Shadow
Thanks for the link.

Is there a way to find out if a particular software title is safe to use? I'm always reluctant when it comes to installing new software from companies that I'm not familiar with.

System Safety Monitor has been verified by Softpedia, plus the members at the Wilders Security forum seem to like it. Should this be enough proof that it's safe to use?

I also agree with you 100%. Security software must be properly configured.

Thanks!

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Edit: Not all applications out there are listed, so use common sense when trying out new programs, avoid the eye candy....do some research....

Luck
July 17th, 2006, 03:11 PM
nihil

Thank you Ilya that looks most interesting!

I shall have to try them out, as I am interested in workable solutions for home users who have little understanding of their computer's inner workings, and no real appreciation of security.

They certainly seem to be a potential part of a more cost effective solution than scrapping your existing Windows computer and buying an Apple :cool:

"Security through exclusion" seems to be a far better proposition than "security through obscurity" which is what transferring to an Apple computer seems to imply?

:)
July 17th, 2006, 05:11 PM
Ilya Rabinovich

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I shall have to try them out, as I am interested in workable solutions for home users who have little understanding of their computer's inner workings, and no real appreciation of security.

Yup, sandbox HIPS are mode for the amateour, non-technical users.

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They certainly seem to be a potential part of a more cost effective solution than scrapping your existing Windows computer and buying an Apple :cool:

"Security through exclusion" seems to be a far better proposition than "security through obscurity" which is what transferring to an Apple computer seems to imply?

I don't think buy Apple is a really good choise. There are already some malware samples for this platform, it is not the way out. Proactive behaviour-based anti-malware protection is the only way out for the anti-malware protection, AV's are not very effective now on.
July 17th, 2006, 07:51 PM
nihil

Ilya I shall test your product first ;)

I very much liked the way in which you answered my very genuine questions..............and that you did not attempt to promote your own product, but also mentioned your rivals as equals.

This is what I consider to be a part of the spirit of this site.

I will advise you of my findings, suggestions or whatever if you PM (personal message) me with an e-mail or even snail mail, contact.

I would like to welcome you to AO, as we do enjoy a technical author to our community.

:)
July 18th, 2006, 09:12 AM
Ilya Rabinovich

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I very much liked the way in which you answered my very genuine questions..............and that you did not attempt to promote your own product, but also mentioned your rivals as equals.

In fact, I mostly promote the sandbox HIPS idea themself, because I believe it is the future of the anti-malware protection.

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I will advise you of my findings, suggestions or whatever if you PM (personal message) me with an e-mail or even snail mail, contact.

You may send e-mail to support [at] softsphere [dot] com. I always welcome any feedback.
July 18th, 2006, 11:13 AM
nihil

Hello Ilya ,

I agree with the concept entirely, implementation is a different issue of course ;)

I seem to recall some AV stuff from Aladdin a few years back that used the "sandbox" principle........
it was e-safe or something like that?

Now, how good is your history? I think that the "sandbox" concept goes back to Berkley, and the start of the UNIX operating system?

:)
July 18th, 2006, 07:30 PM
Ilya Rabinovich

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Originally posted here by nihil
I agree with the concept entirely, implementation is a different issue of course ;)

Implementation is one of the most important issues there! I don't think you will like BSOD'dy software with a huge compatibility issues number....

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I seem to recall some AV stuff from Aladdin a few years back that used the "sandbox" principle........
it was e-safe or something like that?

Yes, e-Safe, but it is something another staff- their sandbox is made for unpacking/heuristics analyzing.

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Now, how good is your history? I think that the "sandbox" concept goes back to Berkley, and the start of the UNIX operating system? :) [/B]

Maybe, I don't know. In fact, it doesn't matter. Each technologie should be used only to solve the real user's problems, otherwise it is just academic technique.