forgiveness

I want to ask the forgiveness of the people who post on this forum.
Though I profess to be a follower of the gentle religion of Jesus,
I have been an arrogant fool. Since none of you know me in the real world
maybe this is not the best place to post this, but I feel I owe it to
you, any of you who feel concerned. Recently I have experienced
events that have taken me down a notch. That is an understatement.
I am in the midst of a personal catastrophe of my own making.

I'd like to tell you the nature of my troubles, but this is the internet.
I'd like to say that I am finding a way forward, but I am broken
and despairing. I'd like to say I will become a better man, but
that would take a miracle. In this vein, I would like to post a link
to a song that says something of my mood and my yearnings.

http://rcgreen.doesntexist.org/B_S_N.mp3

May God richly bless each and ever one of you, an abundant
blessing, unmixed with sorrow or regret. Those of you who are inclined
to pray, you can't imagine how grateful I would be.

Randy C Green

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Recently I have experienced
events that have taken me down a notch. That is an understatement.
I am in the midst of a personal catastrophe of my own making.

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Welcome to God's kingdom!
Everyone who comes to Jesus goes thru this process. We have lost the faith that was once delivered to the saints(Jude 3) in that we seem to think that everything going our way is a stamp of God's approval..wrong answer. If you read about anyone who has ever been great in God's kingdom you will find a broken and humble person whose sins and faults have displayed for all the world to see. They are broken with the revelation that they are nothing and Jesus is Lord of all.Rejoice mr green in this moment...because this is the time when your praise and gratitiude mean more than when everything was going your way. Welcome to the cross and do not jusy endure it. EMBRACE it! The cross is the VEHICLE that will transport you from your current state of corruption to a state of being blameless before him in love (ephesians 1:4)
That's what this event is rcgreen...it is a transport device. Let it take you to him.
Pm me and I will be glad to talk it out with you.
I'll give you my cell..perhaps the Lord can use my small ability to encourage you because I know what it means to be humbled . I know what it is to suffer.

Randy,

I cannot forgive you, because that would require prior condemnation and only he who is without sin can cast the first stone?

I, errrr.......We, shall pray for you...........best we can do mate, and good fortune in the future.

Johnno

Hi Randy,

I have no idea why you want anyone here to forgive you, as far as I can tell you've done absolutely nothing that would warrant forgiveness.

peace,

Eg ;)

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I have no idea why you want anyone here to forgive you, as far as I can tell you've done absolutely nothing that would warrant forgiveness.

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If he is going thru a situation anything like what I have went thru then desperation sets in. You are in whirlwind of confusion and pain. You wonder what has brought you to this point. You cry out for forgiveness from anything or anybody that there might have been even the remotest possibilty you have offende. He may be there. If he is...he is right where God wants him.

Not that it's any of my business...

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Originally Posted by LarrySmith

If he is going thru a situation anything like what I have went thru then desperation sets in. You are in whirlwind of confusion and pain. You wonder what has brought you to this point.

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Well, I would imagine what brought him to this point would be the sum of his past decisions. It's a causal relation; someone makes some decision, something happens and a new decision is needed.

There really is no point in looking back and regretting a past decision, the past is history. And the future, hell, the future isn't even here yet. All we have is right here, right now.

There is nothing gained by living in the past, only lost time.

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You cry out for forgiveness from anything or anybody that there might have been even the remotest possibilty you have offende.

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Would this change what had happened?

For example, I was hit by a bike while coming home from uni (both of us walked away without a scratch). The biker apologized a number of times and peddled off. Is there anything gained by the biker regretting what was done earlier in the day? No, he only loses the entire day to his concentration of the past.

This does not equate, however, to "do not learn from your mistakes". It equates to "Do not regret your mistakes" as there is no reason to continually live in the past, and if you did you can't change it.

Randy,

If you feel the need to talk 1:1

Use the PM facility............... In my mind, and I hope others in the community, "security" means rather more than pen testing.............

Every day you wake up is one day closer to the resolution of any problem, or at least, that's the credo I tend to live by. I've gone through Hell and I'm still here. All I'd like to say is that you shouldn't rely on religion too much, most of it is promises for "the world to come" which basically means that if you want to get something done here, you're going to have to do it yourself. I can't forgive you, none of us can. Seeing as how you've hurt people in the world outside of the internet I would suggest you make you amends to them, and not anonymous strangers in an abstract world. Part of life is to forgive and be forgiven, but words on your screen are null and void if you do not know who lies at the other end of that UTP cable. For all you know we might be the world's worst sinners, immoral people that couldn't care less for the fate of others. Would you ask forgiveness of those people? No you wouldn't. I'm not saying you shouldn't ask for help on the internet, I'm just saying that true forgiveness, love and all that jazz do not come from words, abstractly transmitted through steel wires, it comes from real people with real hearts that you can touch and can touch yours.

And remember, people come and go, every day, same thing goes for physical posession. The only true thing we can hold on to is our own personal truth. Stick to that, and keep moving forward. Sometimes things can't be fixed and should just be left as they are. Time doesn't wait around for those lost in its tracks.

I'd simply love to add some words of wizdom here, but as you'll notice, I can't even spell properly...I bet it's all fabulous though.

Bubbly Fruit

Forgive yourself first

Then you can seek forgiveness from others..

MLF

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make you amends to them, and not anonymous strangers in an abstract world

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Of course you are right, but I've also been a bit abrasive
in my online personality. Anyway, thank you, everyone for
your kind words.

God bless you!!! You are soon to become a great man of God.

Don't love the things of this world but God alone. Forgiveness is the first step! Good books: Wild at Heart, Purpose Driven Life, Abba's Child, the Bible (NIV/KJV I perfer).

I'm here for you brother. I've gone through this twice in my life, to a point of truly giving my life away to God. I'm so enpowered and joyous - as will you!

I'll be fasting and praying for you, my brother!

In Him,
Kevin

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Originally Posted by rcgreen

Of course you are right, but I've also been a bit abrasive
in my online personality. Anyway, thank you, everyone for
your kind words.

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We will pray for you on Sunday (and the other six as it goes;))

Abrasive? hah! I am still wiping the blood off my bayonet:D

Maybe you should be a scumbag fascist supermoderator?.............. give me a bit of time out and I will write an instruction manual for you:D

Have a good week-end Randy

Hey man if it helps: I forgive you. even though you didnt do anything wrong... goodluck on your quest :)

RC G,

Although you have never offended me, I am most appreciative of your concern and your desire to make amends to all.

Take care and we'll remember you in our prayers as well.

Relyt

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Since you are a follower of Jesus, then surely you know he could be "abrasive" when nessissary (Money changers, etc..). I for one have never seen anything offensive of you. We all sin and need forgiveness.

Man, it's hard to believe it's been a month since I started this thread. Maybe i'm
over the line putting it here on Cosmos. Maybe it belongs ??? where? ..

Maybe some are curious what the drama was all about, and other members have posted
personal news from time to time. Someone tell me if I am out of line, with my own
problems, as opposed to just keeping the discussion general. Anyway, my wife of 29
years had an affair, packed up and left. That's 29 years and four children, a house,
dogs cats, memories, a lifetime, all changed now. Life is now on an uncharted course,
where six, or two months ago, I thought I knew who I was and where I was going.

It is easy to be self satisfied and smug. I never saw this coming. Oddly, I was enabled
to turn from my normal reaction of blaming her/defending myself to examining my own self and issues instead. Friends assure me I will survive and heal. Those of you who have suffered the same way will understand when I say I am not sure that I want to heal.

Thanks for listening. If this opens a philosophical discussion, it will justify my having
posted it here. I could have gone to a "lonely hearts" forum instead, but felt I had
a lot invested in this board, so what the heck.

Wow

I am really sorry to hear that.

Sometimes these things happen to us to put us on a new path.....

MLF

Randy, you came to the right place................to your friends ;)

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Originally Posted by rcgreen

Man, it's hard to believe it's been a month since I started this thread. Maybe i'm
over the line putting it here on Cosmos. Maybe it belongs ??? where? ..

Maybe some are curious what the drama was all about, and other members have posted
personal news from time to time. Someone tell me if I am out of line, with my own
problems, as opposed to just keeping the discussion general. Anyway, my wife of 29
years had an affair, packed up and left. That's 29 years and four children, a house,
dogs cats, memories, a lifetime, all changed now. Life is now on an uncharted course,
where six, or two months ago, I thought I knew who I was and where I was going.

It is easy to be self satisfied and smug. I never saw this coming. Oddly, I was enabled
to turn from my normal reaction of blaming her/defending myself to examining my own self and issues instead. Friends assure me I will survive and heal. Those of you who have suffered the same way will understand when I say I am not sure that I want to heal.

Thanks for listening. If this opens a philosophical discussion, it will justify my having
posted it here. I could have gone to a "lonely hearts" forum instead, but felt I had
a lot invested in this board, so what the heck.

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Hey mate, almost 2 years ago, the same thing happened to me (25 years). I too, was lost for a long time, in fact I am only starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel now. I have done a lot of research (I'm am in IT that's what we do) and the popular theme seems to be, it takes two to three years to recover from this type of trauma. You think the break up was tough, the lawyers are shear hell.
Pop be a PM if you need to talk a little more outside the forums.

It will get better, we all adapt.

When my first wife left me I thought my life was ruined. Then someone told me that God doesn't close a door without opening another door for you. I didn't pay that much attention to that statement at first...all I could think of was my loss.

I managed to keep the house in the settlement, though I couldn't afford it on just my income. In a matter of about one week, another friend of mine discovered that his wife wanted a divorce. He moved in and we split the bills. Then another friend who was single at the time needed a cheaper appartment so we moved him in as well. Good times soon followed.

A short time passed, and I met a lady that I had known of since elementary school, my mother was her second grade teacher. We hit it off...she moved in too.

Here I am 14 years later, happily married to her and a proud father of a boy and girl. I made a couple of life changing career moves as well.

At the time of my divorce, I would've never dreamed that I could be this happy. All of my friends said that things would get better, I thought they full of ****. I guess they were right, but at the time it didn't seem that way. Those times were tough. They make a guy feel very uncertain about everything.

My friends that moved in? They have also moved on. They are both married to a couple of gals that they started dating while we were all living together, and one of them has a daughter.

So I can say with confidence that things will be fine rcgreen. It just takes time. When you are ready, you will decide to move forward.

I'm sorry to hear about what has happened to you. Although i do not believe in God, i hope you heal yourself quickly with your faith. I cannot pray for you but i can only hope that things turn out good for you and your family. I'd like to tell you a few things. If life was on a "charted course" as you said, what's the challenge in living it. How would life be fun if there is no challenge. Life is about problems and learning to overcome them. Philosophically speaking, you never had anything to start with.You came to the world with nothing and you shall go back in the same way. So be happy and always remember :

" You can clutch the past so tightly to your chest, that it leaves your arms too full to
embrace the present" - Jan Glidewell

This is a little late but...

We tend to blame ourselves in these situations. Perhaps that is a positive influence for continued growth. In many cases though, there is no blame. It is a stark reality of our existence. Many times change is necessary. It sounds a bit cliche, but I truly believe with each chapter the new unwritten page is much richer. And my life is a testament to that ideology. Once in a while a soul strays from confidence and never recovers. They are unwlling or unable to swim through their emotions and bask in the sun on the other side where an ice cold Corona with a little lime on top is waiting in their easy chair. You are not one of those people. You may not even feel like a beer, but it is waiting.