Sometimes when I post a message, the site takes too long to load and times out. It always works in the end, but I wondered why this happened from time to time?
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Sometimes when I post a message, the site takes too long to load and times out. It always works in the end, but I wondered why this happened from time to time?
We think it's because of heavy SE bot activity since the upgrade. However we don't want to impede it because the site needs to be re-indexed in the SE's
Ah well, at least it's not just me experiencing this! A necessary evil .....
No, I get it too. I'm working on (between other projects) adding a cookie based "lastPost" feature, so that the last typed post will be retrievable should the submit time out. Just tough to do a few minutes here and there between other things.
I know the feeling. It's getting to be a complete pain though :( it just did it again now when I tried to read this reply. Can't you temporarily alter robots.txt and keep the pesky things out?
Well that's the problem, they all seem to be known large SE bots (google, yahoo, jeeves, etc), and we need them here. It shouldn't last THAT long. They're just here because the indexed links they have are now all irrelevant with the new software. The whole site has to be re-indexed.
Makes me realise what a professional job Seventwentyfour do with my website which is checked and pinged every few minutes - but the whole thing is cleverly unobtrusive without any impact on the site. I know Google etc are a bit different of course. As you say, it ought to improve.
Hitting the back button usually will bring the page back with post in tact. Also, if you're making a huge post, you might want to copy it before you hit submit and then you can just paste it in.
I'm not sure if it is related but I'm also getting periodic timeouts hitting the front page, not just when posting a message. Seems like it was fine after the upgrade and just started happening in the last day or two.
No, it's been happening a bit longer than that. We feel it began when the bots started hitting us in droves, to re-index.
gore - good advice. I suppose since the site isn't a secure page, the back button should work. I use a site hidden by .htaccess sometimes, only accessible by members. That is set to time out after so much idle time. It's annoying if you forget, make a large post and then get dumped back at the login screen with nothing you wrote having been saved! I normally copy the post just as a precaution.
this happens to me regularly... after logging in... after posting a comment
be surprised if it was crawling (Happens everyday) but what do I know...
Moira...you using FF2? reason I ask is that...
1) didn't notice this before FF2
2) I browsed the site just before this in IE7 and didn't have timeout issues but did with FF2... perhaps a coincidence
on the bright side...thx for fixing the ridiculously large default font size for thread titles on the main page :)
(after posting this I clicked the logo to go to the main page...and timed out)
No, I'm not using FF at all and it happens to me.
Well I guess the back button works, but it gets annoying as can be when you go to the bathroom to send the "Browns" to the Super Bowl and when you come back ya had to enter your data again...
cheers
zigar, I am using FF2, but I have been since I received the email from AntiOnline and rejoined the site, so I have no experience of whether this happened beforehand.
I wouldn't have thought FF2 was to blame though - it isn't beta now and the idea is that it's an improvement on FF1, not a cause of additional problems! Bot indexing makes sense but it's still a PITA. Anyway, we'll just have to see if it improves and if it doesn't then think again.
(Incidentally, what a good idea that email was! I'm so glad I rejoined here. I used to be active on Security Forums but for various reasons (particularly the redesign) it lost its appeal - this is a much better place!)
Rest assured everyone, if it doesn't let up very soon (like this coming week) we'll start to limit the bot activity on the server. We just wanted to keep that as a last resort, since the re-indexing will improve the site and make it busier, which I assume everyone wants.
hmmm still getting time out issues, took me 3times to log in this morning. on the third attempt it finally loaded, but it tell a hella long time just to load up the index page.
and i kept getting time out connections again while trying to edit a post i made.
anyhow everything else seems to be working. {When it loads :p }
Yeah, it's still an issue for me too, but not so bad that I wouldn't be prepared to wait a bit to see if it improves.
We're gonna look into restricting the bots a bit on monday.
hmm and now i'm having huge trouble just to get a pm to send, im getting time out connection errors again..
using the latest version of opera, get the same issue under ie6 and firefox and seamonkey also.
hopefully they (SE bots) finish re-indexing the site soon..
Happening to me too.
I run aAdd blocking Hosts File.. and havent encountered any page load issues.. oops I lie.. once on friday, ,,,but then I dont post all that much.. just sandbag a lot
oh and with FF2...
I have an adblocking hosts file and the site still times out - that has nothing to do with it.
I get the timeouts as well...................it doesn't seem consistent though? I have been on for around 4 hours now, sometimes it will die every 20 minutes or so?
I don't find it consistent either. There's no logic to it, but I guess if it's related to bot activity, that would be the case.
We have about 50 or 60 crawling the site right now
Well it should get some great listings with all this activity!
I'm sure hoping. Got everything I have 2 of, crossed.
The mind boggles :D
Tis a bit painful, but no sacrifice too great! :D
well i was able to log in today with little hassle, and the site has seemed to have picked up some pace again. :drink:
Yeah now that you mention it, I'm not getting any timeouts since late morning, my time.
Hmm interesting.. disabled the hosts file this morning (that is about 15hrs ago) had 2 time outs whilest browsing.. re enabled and no probs.. but then I only had 15mins to play.. so Moira.. .. jam it..Quote:
I have an adblocking hosts file and the site still times out - that has nothing to do with it.
No, she's right (and try to be a bit more cordial, thanks). Whether I allow images or do not, the timeouts still occurred.
dunno.. maybe it is my area of OZ and France..Quote:
No, she's right (and try to be a bit more cordial, thanks). Whether I allow images or do not, the timeouts still occurred.
You ask me to be cordial.. ok.. I made a comment.. it was my experience on the situation.. What do you call the reply?
[insert] dummy spit [/insert]
Well I thought "jam it" was a little rude, unless there was some other meaning intended. If you disable the hosts file, is the site still timing out for you there?
Well...
I have had several timeouts recently...last night as I was responding to a thread....I went to postt...and it said I wasnt logged in :rolleyes:
Back button worked I copied, logged in and redid......
Kinda annoying though
MLF
I had same problem this morning while I was typing up that rather lengthy thread . I thought maybe it was some kind of security measure akin to the paypal system of loging you out after being inactive for X amount of time, but I guess its these bots.
No, the logout problem shouldn't be related to the bots. I would guess that it's still an old cookie on your system. That's about the only thing I can think of that would cause it. The timeouts, yes, could be the bots, but I haven't had a time out in 3 days now, and I was getting them frequently.
Many sites will time you out if you're inactive for too long. If I know I've taken ages to finish a post (I'm usually doing about 10 things at once on the computer) then I'll copy the post just in case that happens.
The other timeouts were different though .... you could be accessing the site for the first time and it would time out, ie before you'd had a chance to be logged out as a security measure. It was similar to trying to get onto a really busy site, one selling tickets to a fantastically popular concert (for instance).